Hello Phil: Tom forwarded your request to Ortenau genealogy list on line. Here is what I found on Ancestry.com: 1870 U.S. Census for St. Louis, Missouri - 2nd Ward East - enumerated 1st June 1870 Dwelling house numbered in the order of visitation: 16 Family numbered in the order of visitation: 25 Bernhd 25 M W Butcher b. Baden, father & mother of foreign birth, male citizen of U.S. of 21 years of age and up Value of real estate/personal state: - (dash marks only) 22 F W Keeping House b. Baden, father & mother of foreign birth Sophia 2 F W b. S Lou, father & mother of foreign Amalie 9/12 F W b. S Lou, father & mother of foreign birth, if born within the years, state month: Agst Dwelling house numbered in the order of visitation: 16 (same as above) Family numbered in the order of visitation: 26 Anton 53 M W Dairyman b. Baden, value of real estate owned $2,500, father & mother of foreign birth, male citizen of U.S. of 21 years of age and up Francis 52 F W Keeping House b. Baden, father & mother of foreign birth Amalie 15 F W b. S Lou, at school, father & mother of foreign birth, attended school within the last year I hope this is helpful. Best regards, Arlene Goff (nee SCHNEIDER) Researching ancestors of Josef SCHNEIDER b. 1845 Urloffen, Offenburg, BADEN - both his parents b. BADEN - Josef SCHNEIDER emigrated to US, Brooklyn NY 1866 & died on 15 Jan 1890 at age (per his death certificate): "45 years" (no months, nor days); best candidates for my Josef's parents: Sebastian SCHNEIDER and Maria Anna ARMBRUSTER who had a son Josef b. 15 Jan 1845, Urloffen