To those I remember sending part of my Schwendemann-Ketterer file (KAREN, FRANK) and to those others I know I had sent part of the same file..... The families of Johann Martin Schwendemann of Welschensteinach (1726-1796) and Maria Magdalena Ketterer of Runzengraben/Steinach (1729-1799) need an adjustment from my original listing information. The eldest sibling of Maria Magdalena Ketterer was originally entered in my file as Johannes Ketterer because Latin script or not, I could not read the second name shown in the baptismal entry. Usually I can stare at a name and whether it is Latin or German script eventually figure out was was written but this confused me too much. The first line easily identified "Johannes". The second lime of the name appeared to be "J Ouminat"...with a swirl at the end. Staring at the second name did not give me an answer and I held the block-form baptismal entry for well over a year wondering what the correct name may have been. Finally, I gave up and asked WENDELIN for help. Within minutes, I had my answer from Wendelin. What I did not and would not have known was identified Illuminatus which turned out to be a proper Saint's name. The believed upper case O was correctly two lower case "ells" with the first ell having its top curved to the right and the second ell having its top curved to the left...the letters joining. So if Karen, Frank or any others have a Johannes Ketterer baptismal date of June 6, 1725 in their records, please correct the name to Johann Illuminatus Ketterer. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com