dj, Hans and all, > The earliest Gerwitz of your line in the Familienbuch, Gottfried > Gerwitz is identified with the words "Badischer Jäger". as a Baden hunter Gottfried Gerwitz came perhaps from another Baden area. Was Gottfried the first or were there some other Gerwitz? Önsbach belonged at this time (when the parish records for Önsbach begin) to the Landvogtei Ortenau and the Landvogtei Ortenau was as a fief ruled by the margraves of Baden-Baden from 1701 till 1771. Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm of Baden (Baden-Baden) (1655-1707) received the Ortenau because of his victories against Turkish armies. Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm married Franziska Sibylla Augusta of Sachsen-Lauenburg in 1690. Princess Franziska Sibylla Augusta brought a number of servants from Bohemia. A special page about Rastatt on our memberpages lists some of the names from Bohemia, one also with -witz. So I think the first Gerwitz in Önsbach or his father could also be one that servants. - Wendelin

Hans Wendelin, I have copied and am sending directly to your e-mail addresses the details listed for the family of Gottfried Gerwitz and Eva Ernst within the Familienbuch for Önsbach. As this LIst is archived and most logically Herr Weber's book would be under copyright, I would not desire to violate the author's rights. Hans, now for the qualification in what I have copied for above. You know that the finger which types "z" and "a" does its own thing at times. In addition, typing the book details means that I was holding the book open with one hand and typing with the other. Who knows what I typed wrong and can't figure out this time even with a proof reading. >From your emigrant Gerwitz upward in your ancestry, there should be a number of different ancestral lines, all of which probably are in the Familienbuch. I strongly suggest that the Familienbuch would be a wise investment for you. ------------------------- My guess would be that additional children were baptized between 1714 and 1721. My further guess is that those children died at an early age and missed the listing in the Church Registers or had been in one of the Registers which was destroyed in one of French incursions. Those French acts would have been over a number of years, including the 1670s, 1690, during any of the Wars of the Spanish, Polish or Austrian Succession. The parish house in Fautenbach was destroyed several times by the French and the LDS films of those Church Registers for Fautenbach and other neighboring towns do have missing years. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendelin Irslinger" <genealogy@axxess.co.za> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Gerwitz dj, Hans and all, > The earliest Gerwitz of your line in the Familienbuch, Gottfried > Gerwitz is identified with the words "Badischer Jäger". as a Baden hunter Gottfried Gerwitz came perhaps from another Baden area. Was Gottfried the first or were there some other Gerwitz? Önsbach belonged at this time (when the parish records for Önsbach begin) to the Landvogtei Ortenau and the Landvogtei Ortenau was as a fief ruled by the margraves of Baden-Baden from 1701 till 1771. Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm of Baden (Baden-Baden) (1655-1707) received the Ortenau because of his victories against Turkish armies. Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm married Franziska Sibylla Augusta of Sachsen-Lauenburg in 1690. Princess Franziska Sibylla Augusta brought a number of servants from Bohemia. A special page about Rastatt on our memberpages lists some of the names from Bohemia, one also with -witz. So I think the first Gerwitz in Önsbach or his father could also be one that servants. - Wendelin

DJ: Thank you much. You have whetted my appetite, and now I want a copy of the Familienbuch to confirm the over 300 individuals in my database that were mostly sourced from Ellen Gerwitz's extensive but largely unattributed research. I have emailed Jutta. Wendelin: this is an intriguing possibility. Lauenburg in the late 17th century would correspond to the Horowitz lineage and might someday corroborate the Sephardic Jewish family lore. I've found the memberpages site, but can you help me find the list of Bohemians? (Family lore also includes a namesake town in north Germany. I've noticed a settlement near Lütjenburg named Gerwitz, settled by surname Gherwitze in 1320 and listed as the birthplace of another family in 1464. There's also Gerwisch, Saxony-Anhalt which was listed as Gherwitz around 1360. Neither of these can even be connected to the surname, though.) Thanks! --- hans.gerwitz On 6 Nov 2008, at 11:58, djweber wrote: > Hans > Wendelin, > > I have copied and am sending directly to your e-mail addresses the > details > listed for the family of Gottfried Gerwitz and Eva Ernst within the > Familienbuch for Önsbach. As this LIst is archived and most > logically Herr > Weber's book would be under copyright, I would not desire to violate > the > author's rights. > > Hans, now for the qualification in what I have copied for above. > You know > that the finger which types "z" and "a" does its own thing at > times. In > addition, typing the book details means that I was holding the book > open > with one hand and typing with the other. Who knows what I typed > wrong and can't figure out this time even with a proof reading. > >> From your emigrant Gerwitz upward in your ancestry, there should be >> a number > of different ancestral lines, all of which probably are in the > Familienbuch. > I strongly suggest that the Familienbuch would be a wise investment > for you. > > ------------------------- > > My guess would be that additional children were baptized between > 1714 and > 1721. My further guess is that those children died at an early age > and > missed the listing in the Church Registers or had been in one of the > Registers which was destroyed in one of French incursions. Those > French > acts would have been over a number of years, including the 1670s, > 1690, > during any of the Wars of the Spanish, Polish or Austrian > Succession. The > parish house in Fautenbach was destroyed several times by the French > and the > LDS films of those Church Registers for Fautenbach and other > neighboring > towns do have missing years. > > djweber > djwdjw@ix.netcom.com > ------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendelin Irslinger" <genealogy@axxess.co.za> > To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Gerwitz > > > dj, Hans and all, > >> The earliest Gerwitz of your line in the Familienbuch, Gottfried >> Gerwitz is identified with the words "Badischer Jäger". > as a Baden hunter Gottfried Gerwitz came perhaps from another Baden > area. > Was Gottfried the first or were there some other Gerwitz? > > Önsbach belonged at this time (when the parish records for Önsbach > begin) to the Landvogtei Ortenau and the Landvogtei Ortenau was as a > fief ruled by the margraves of Baden-Baden from 1701 till 1771. > Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm of Baden (Baden-Baden) (1655-1707) received > the > Ortenau because of his victories against Turkish armies. > > Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm married Franziska Sibylla Augusta of > Sachsen-Lauenburg in 1690. Princess Franziska Sibylla Augusta brought > a number of servants from Bohemia. A special page about Rastatt on our > memberpages lists some of the names from Bohemia, one also with -witz. > So I think the first Gerwitz in Önsbach or his father could also be > one > that servants. > > - Wendelin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message