Hi guys, for Gutach it's http://www.gutach-schwarzwald.de/frameset.php Frank -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von djweber Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Juli 2008 20:34 An: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com Betreff: Re: [Ortenau] Gutach Chuck.... No. If Gutach has a home page it could be < http://www.gutach.de/ >. For Achern maybe < http://www.achern.de/>. Not every town has a web page of its own but the generic location is similar to above when looking for a town home page. Some towns such as Welschensteinach have a page off another town and an address which does not include the Welschensteinach town name. Sometimes, it is necessary to < google.com > or maybe < google.de > in order to find the correct locatioin. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cgs1996@aol.com> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Gutach > dj > > Is this the correct site? > > Chuck > > > > > http://www.typethetown name.de/. > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Frank, and everybody else on the List... Thank you for offering the exact address for the Gutach town web site. Your information offers a thought to me. Agreed, the town web site will be in the German language and perhaps complicated to many of us but usually there are secondary web pages with town maps and other vital information which can be understood by one without a complete knowledge of the German language. I wonder if others of us on this List have the home town web site URL for a specific Ortenau town or towns and if they could send those URLs to me. In my slow, turtle-like movement, I would gather them in alphabetical town order and send them back to the List for all. Certainly I have not completed my search in the northernly towns of the Ortenau for that Sur/Saur/Sauer family but most recently I have been working in Steinach and Welschensteinach. There the main URL is of that generic system, only < http://www.steinach.de/ > for Steinach im Kinzigtal. However, one of the secondary pages can be helpful for town "ownership" and history information...< http://www.steinach.de/index8.htm > which offers dates to complement Wendelin's information such as --------------------------------------------------- 1380 Die Vogtei Steinach wechselt in den Besitz des Klosters Gengenbach. 1423 Die Fürstenberger werden Gerichtsherren ----------- While Wendelin has given us this background as to the Klosters and the Fürstenberg control, this confirms the exact years as the town record's lists. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Many of the town home web sites are full of these valuable details for us. To all on the List, if you know a town home URL as Frank has given us for Gutach, please send it on to me. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Liepe" <frank.liepe@t-online.de> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Gutach Hi guys, for Gutach it's http://www.gutach-schwarzwald.de/frameset.php Frank

there are some very good webpages for the Ortenau area: The webpage http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de contains information about the history of the Ortenau towns, also hamlets and lost towns. The webpage http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/search/ is the memberpage with additional information about many towns, like statistical information about towns and hamlets. Hillrich