Hello List, I can't locate Gutach, Ortenaukreis. Does anyone know where this village is? I see a Gutach im Breisgau/Emmendingen, and a Gutach (Schwartzbahn) kr. Wolfach, but not one in Ortenaukreis. Any solutions? Thanks Darrel

Darrel, I did not search to confirm but from your identifications, my guess is that you are using the LDS catalog in order to find Gutach. The LDS catalog is based on the 1912 Meyers-Ort for the towns within the 1871 German Empire. In other words, the descriptive locations within the LDS catalog may have become obsolete by 1913. I consider them worthless but you will find many an online Tree showing those old and incorrect Kreis locations. For Gutach logically < mapquest.com > or one of the similar web sites should find it for you. From a general map of Baden, you can find Offenburg, go south-east to Gengenbach, south to Biberach, south to Steinach, slightly southeast to Haslach, east to Hausach and south to Gutach. This is roughly the route of the river. I guess if you are using the LDS obsolete catalog listing, try Wolfach as the LDS also shows most of the nearby towns as in the Wolfach Amt. I would believe, as the neighboring towns were, that Gutach also, would have been within the Fürstentum Fürstenberg principality prior to the formation of the Grand Duchy, probably within the Obervogteiamt Haslach but I certainly would defer to one with better knowledge of the history of the area for confirmation of the prior-Grand Duchy status/ownership. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com --------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrel" <dar7ter@comcast.net> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: [Ortenau] Gutach > Hello List, > > I can't locate Gutach, Ortenaukreis. Does anyone know where this village > is? I see a Gutach im Breisgau/Emmendingen, and a Gutach (Schwartzbahn) > kr. > Wolfach, but not one in Ortenaukreis. Any solutions? > > > > Thanks > > Darrel

Hello Darrel, the Kreis Wolfach doesn't exist any more. Gutach (Schwarzwaldbahn) now belongs to the Ortenaukreis. It is in the middle black forrest near the river Kinzig. Christian -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:15:46 -0500 > Von: "Darrel" <dar7ter@comcast.net> > An: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [Ortenau] Gutach > Hello List, > > I can't locate Gutach, Ortenaukreis. Does anyone know where this > village > is? I see a Gutach im Breisgau/Emmendingen, and a Gutach (Schwartzbahn) > kr. > Wolfach, but not one in Ortenaukreis. Any solutions? > > > > Thanks > > Darrel > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message -- Psssst! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03

So that is it, thank you for that information. I will correct my location in Kr. Wolfach to read Gutach, Ortenaukreis. The Gutach i. Breisgau remains outside of Ortenaukreis in the Emmendingen district. Thanks again Darrel -----Original Message----- From: deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christian Erath Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:37 AM To: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Gutach Hello Darrel, the Kreis Wolfach doesn't exist any more. Gutach (Schwarzwaldbahn) now belongs to the Ortenaukreis. It is in the middle black forrest near the river Kinzig. Christian -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:15:46 -0500 > Von: "Darrel" <dar7ter@comcast.net> > An: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com > Betreff: [Ortenau] Gutach > Hello List, > > I can't locate Gutach, Ortenaukreis. Does anyone know where this > village > is? I see a Gutach im Breisgau/Emmendingen, and a Gutach (Schwartzbahn) > kr. > Wolfach, but not one in Ortenaukreis. Any solutions? > > > > Thanks > > Darrel > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message -- Psssst! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message