Mimi: I just noticed an error in the data. There is a reference to No. 1877 which should be 1377. The Stulz names begin with No. 5536a Sebastian Stultz who had 2 sons: Sebastian <5538, 5539, 5544> and Andreas <5440, 5441> No. 5537 is Anthon Stultz who married in 1627 No. 5538, 5539, 5544 Sebastian Stultz (* 1612), son of No. 5536a No. 5540, 5541 is Andreas Stultz (* 1615), son of No. 5536a No. 5542, 5546 is Johann Martin Stultz who married in 1666 No. 5543 is Mathis Stultz who came maybe from Sulz and married before 1669 No. 5547 is Heinrich Stulz who married in 1682 No. 5548 is Blasius Stulz who married before 1704 No. 5549 is Sebastian Stultz who came from Schmieheim and married in 1693 So the oldest Stulz were Sebastian and Anthon. The next 2 were sons of Sebastian. And then 3 Stulz with unkown parents: Johann Martin, Heinrich, Blasius. Maybe they were from neigboring towns like Mathis Stultz from Sulz and Sebastian Stultz from Schmieheim. The religion after the wife means the religion of the whole family, I assume since the marriage because some were born with another religion. Yes, I noticed some Protestant men married Catholic women and the children were Protestants. But I also know that some Stulz men changed their religion from Protestant to Catholic so I assume there was no special rule. I don't know how large Kippenheim was in the 17th or 18th century. When you want to know the number of inhabitants in the 19th century you could visit: http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/index.php?n=Ortenau.Kippenheim Christian Sütterlin wrote some histories about the towns in that area, not all were published as books. He wrote one for Kippenheim but I couldn't find a copy except a xerocopy in the library in Karlsruhe: Kippenheim, der südwestdeutsche Marktflecken im Wandel der Jahrhunderte. 1953. 226 pages. A newer published book is: Walter Staudenmeyer: Ein Streifzug durch die Geschichte von A bis Z (Kippenheim und Schmieheim). 382 pages. Johann Stulz (ca. 1788-1849 England) unkown brother, his son Christian in St. Petersburg Elisabeth oo I Dr. Nicola from Mannheim oo II Schoeffle or Schaeffle Anna Maria oo Schmelzer Okay, that is maybe the following family (but his earliest Stulz ancestor is no. 5542): 5583 oo 7.11.1774 Johann Jacob Stulz <from 5563>, master tailor, * 5.10.1747, + 26.2.1814 Maria Elisabeth Gäßler <from 1432>, * (17.6.1749), + 1.4.1845 Protestant 7 children: Johann Jacob 28.10.1775, + Travemünde 30.9.1815 "on the travel from Petersburg to his home country" Johann Christian 21.12.1777, + 18.4.1781 Elisabetha <4672> [seems she married someone with surname Sch...] Anna Maria <5609> Anna Catharina 6.11.1785 Johannes 1.1.1788 Barbara <5619> 5609 Anna Maria Stulz <from 5583>, protestant, * 5.2.1783 1 child: Christian Stulz 16.2.1808 - Wendelin On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:19:19 -0700 Mimi Stevens <donnmimi@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wendelin, first of all, THANK YOU SO MUCH for all this new > > information! > I really appreciate the trouble you went to, not only looking it all > up, but > then typing it too. > > I have a few questions. > > 1) I notice there are a few Stulz families (if not > several) in Kippenheim. Is it likely that somewhere back in time most > are related, or is Stulz a common name in Germany? > > 2) How far back do the books go? > > 3) How large was Kippenheim in the 1600s, 1700s and 1800s? Is there > a place to look up the history of the area? > > 4) I noticed for most of the marriages it lists a religion after the > wife. > Does that mean SHE was that religion, or that the family is that > religion? > What was the common practice - to be the husband's or the wife's - or > were they probably the same (meaning not likely that they were mixed > marriages?) > > 5) Maybe there isn't a connection to Johann Georg Stulz baron of > Ortenberg > ............ but I wonder if there is a connection to another > tailor, John (Johann?) Stulz > b. abt 1788 (denization papers from England say Kippenheim) d. 1849 > England > m. 1) ? 2) Sophia Ray no biological children, one adopted daughter > His mother died in 1845. > John's siblings. > -Male, name unknown, son Christian ... ties to St. Petersburg? > -Elizabeth m. 1) Dr. Nicola of Manheim (d. bef. 1848) 2) Schoeffle > or Schaeffle > -Anna Maria m. Schmelzer, children Charles, Carl, Carolina > Sorry to be so vague, but we have this family story that has been > consistent > in it's telling that there was this Uncle John who was a tailor, > etc, etc. > The time frame doesn't fit for the Baron (because he died before the > family > even emigrated to the United States). > > Is there anyone else out there researching Stulz ? > > Thanks again, Wendelin. You're great! > > - Mimi