When Wendelin set up our Ortenau List, he already had accumulated much information including a number of web sites. I had found some sites with mine mostly being map or history sites. In an e-mail discussion, the thought came up (and quickly was turned down) that monthly messages should be sent to the List offering various details which might, for some, be of value. To make that information available to you Wendelin set up a "Links" (Tab) page from his Search set of pages. After an attempt to categorize those site URLs I entered them onto that Links page. Listing URLs, though, is similar to bookmarking a page and going back to it several months later only to learn that the URL address is obsolete. Some of those URLs on the Links page have been changed too many times to count. For my own needs, I do not bookmark but I send myself the full web page with original URL so I have the full details. If the web address is changed, I have a better chance of doing a google search and finding the new address. The next step with all the URL changes was not a give-up on the Links but it led into your Annoying Messages. The Links Tab still exists from the heading of the Search page. Some of the listed addresses are still valid; some of the addresses may no longer be valid but a number of web sites....town sites including town web cams, Ortenau sites, Baden sites, German sites, map sites, history sites, etc....are listed there for your use. If you have used any of the suggestions from the Annoying Messages, perhaps some of those sites identified on the Links page might also be of value to you (if they are still a live address). However, the next step was back to the drawing board and back to the original thought of sending list messages. However, rather than monthly stick-it-in-your-face, boiler plate messages as we feared they might be considered, I have attempted, as I have found some potential site, to merely send an Annoying Message. If you look for any of the sites on that Links page and find nothing, let me know. I'll try to locate a new URL, replace the old in the Links and send the new URL on to you. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com
I find the "annoying messages" never annoying...only helpful and informative! Keep them coming please! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <doleout@insightbb.com> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Annoying, they are! > DJ, just keep annoying me with your messages as I have been helped > numerous times by these annoyances. > > Tony Fetz > Indiana
DJ, just keep annoying me with your messages as I have been helped numerous times by these annoyances. Tony Fetz Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: "djweber" <djwdjw@ix.netcom.com> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Cc: <kathysig@insightbb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:09 AM Subject: [Ortenau] Annoying, they are! > Kathy, > > Is your question because you are on the Digest format and there is some > difficulty in opening the messages within the Digest. I know that > Rootsweb > has had two methods of delivering Digests, one with open messages and the > second where the messages are attached and require specific action for > opening. I thought that when Rootsweb changed their mail mode software > that > they had corrected the forced opening attachments. > > If your question is why do I call certain of my messages Annoying, they > are > Annoying and there are two reasons. The prime reason is that you and all > the other members of the Ortenau List joined this List because of an > interest in and an ancestor from the Ortenau. You should be receiving > mail > from others with their Ortenau interests and requests. When my Annoying > messages come through they should be annoying to you because they normally > have no exact connection to the Ortenau nor with any Ortenau ancestors. > They take you away from the prime reason of this List; they are an > annoyance > to your proper stream of thought for this Ortenau List. > > So, by number, I call them Annoying. For my causing confusion, think only > that I am a confused man. Kathy, my apologies. > > djweber > djwdjw@ix.netcom.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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I enjoy djweber's annoying messages to the board, too. They usually lead me to sites and sources I would have never found on my own.
Hi there, my best guess is that it actually mean annotating or announcing, but was run through a spell checker, which converted it to annoying. TM> From: kathysig@insightbb.com> To: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:40:04 -0500> Subject: Re: [Ortenau] DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7> > Will someone please explain to me why these messages from djweber > annoying???> > Kathy> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <deu-bad-ortenau-request@rootsweb.com>> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:04 AM> Subject: DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > Today's Topics:> >> > 1. Annoying Message #19 (djweber)> > 2. Annoying Message #20 (djweber)> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > To contact the DEU-BAD-ORTENAU list administrator, send an email to> > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-admin@rootsweb.com.> >> > To post a message to the DEU-BAD-ORTENAU mailing list, send an email to > > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU@rootsweb.com.> >> > __________________________________________________________> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com> > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of the> > email with no additional text.> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan
Kathy, Is your question because you are on the Digest format and there is some difficulty in opening the messages within the Digest. I know that Rootsweb has had two methods of delivering Digests, one with open messages and the second where the messages are attached and require specific action for opening. I thought that when Rootsweb changed their mail mode software that they had corrected the forced opening attachments. If your question is why do I call certain of my messages Annoying, they are Annoying and there are two reasons. The prime reason is that you and all the other members of the Ortenau List joined this List because of an interest in and an ancestor from the Ortenau. You should be receiving mail from others with their Ortenau interests and requests. When my Annoying messages come through they should be annoying to you because they normally have no exact connection to the Ortenau nor with any Ortenau ancestors. They take you away from the prime reason of this List; they are an annoyance to your proper stream of thought for this Ortenau List. So, by number, I call them Annoying. For my causing confusion, think only that I am a confused man. Kathy, my apologies. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com
Knowing DJ Weber from this site, I would believe that those are his own titles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy" <kathysig@insightbb.com> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7 > Will someone please explain to me why these messages from djweber > annoying??? > > Kathy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <deu-bad-ortenau-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:04 AM > Subject: DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7 > > >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Annoying Message #19 (djweber) >> 2. Annoying Message #20 (djweber) >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To contact the DEU-BAD-ORTENAU list administrator, send an email to >> DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the DEU-BAD-ORTENAU mailing list, send an email to >> DEU-BAD-ORTENAU@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Nope. DJ calls them annoying. I personally find them useful, but this is the name DJ's given them, for DJ's own reasons, which DJ has answered on this list before and will probably do so again. Brian On Wed, January 23, 2008 9:12 pm, Thomas Mangos wrote: > > Hi there, > my best guess is that it actually mean annotating or announcing, but was > run through a spell checker, which converted it to annoying.
Will someone please explain to me why these messages from djweber annoying??? Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: <deu-bad-ortenau-request@rootsweb.com> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:04 AM Subject: DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Digest, Vol 3, Issue 7 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Annoying Message #19 (djweber) > 2. Annoying Message #20 (djweber) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To contact the DEU-BAD-ORTENAU list administrator, send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the DEU-BAD-ORTENAU mailing list, send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. >
Another Germanic List has offered a URL which could be enlightening for any of us with early ancestor emigrants from the German countries. Cornell University Library has digitized and put online a number of books and articles. At < http://moa.cit.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/sgml/moa-idx?notisid=ABQ7578-0011-3 >, a ninteen page article originally published July 1820 in The North American review of the University of Nothern Iowa is an article titled "The German in North America". This English language article is stated to be a reprint or reprisal of an 1818 German article published in Stuttgart/Tübingen. I may be old but I was not around when it was first published so I can not vouch for its authenticity but after reading it a couple of times, it seems very logical that this work does cover the life or plight of that early-to-America Germanic emigrant. At least some humor, or perhaps sense, if nothing more may be found in the paragraph on page 4 which explains a better life for those who had not emigrated from Württemberg after the new King sold his father's menagerie and transferred the food storage of potatoes which had been amassed for the kangaroos and elephants to the people. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com
A number of months ago, List member Beverly Zanon gave us the URL for the Fuzzy Gazetteer at < http://tomcat-dmaweb1.jrc.it/fuzzyg/query/ >. This site may be the most complete location available in searching a town or geography site where our spelling may not be perfect. Now another List member Frank Liepe has offered another potential great URL, < http://www.verwandt.de/karten/ >. This site is similar but more complete than < http://christoph.stoepel.net/geogen/en/Default.aspx > both of which tranfer the names in the German telephone book, by PLZ location, into a map site. The site offered by Frank not only identifies by map and the specific Kreis/area but offers the number of such name listings through the country for the surname and suggests the approximate number of individuals in Germany with that one surname. I doubt that you may need this site for your Ortenau ancestor but most of us have other Germanic ancestors and, as a start, it is a clue to whether you have a rare or common surname in your search. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com
Hallo Jürgen, das Stadtarchiv in Offenburg hat alte Adressbücher. Ich hatte dort selbst mal einige durchgesehen. Ich weiß jetzt nicht ab wann die beginnen, da ich nur die notiert hatte die für mich von Interesse waren (z.B. 1887, 1906, 1909, 1911...). Das Adressbuch von 1929 enthält auch die Einwohner von benachbarten Orten (z.B. Niederschopfheim). - Wendelin On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:04:10 +0100 "Jürgen Frontzek" <j-frontzek@gmx.de> wrote: > Liebe Listenteilnehmer, > > hat jemand zufaelligerweise Zugang zu alten Adressbuechern von > Offenburg (ab 1882 und juenger) und koennte dort nachsehen, ob darin > meine Vorfahrin Agatha RAPP, geboren am. 12.12.1827 in Gerstheim > (Elsass), gestorben nach 1882 wahrscheinlich in Offenburg, aufgefuhrt > ist? > > Vielen Dank im voraus. > > Juergen Frontzek > Grafing bei Muenchen
Liebe Listenteilnehmer, hat jemand zufaelligerweise Zugang zu alten Adressbuechern von Offenburg (ab 1882 und juenger) und koennte dort nachsehen, ob darin meine Vorfahrin Agatha RAPP, geboren am. 12.12.1827 in Gerstheim (Elsass), gestorben nach 1882 wahrscheinlich in Offenburg, aufgefuhrt ist? Vielen Dank im voraus. Juergen Frontzek Grafing bei Muenchen -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail
Hi all, I'm searching for my ancestors in Welschensteinach/Steinach and it would be great if you could check for following persons in your databases: 1. Alois SCHWENDEMANN, born est. 1775 in Welschensteinach, married with 2. Maria KLEINKLAUS 3. Paulina MAIER, born est. 1815 probably in Welschensteinach, married with Bernhard SCHWENDEMANN (son of 1. and 2.) 4. Walburga AMBS, born ~1846 in Welschensteinach, died 22.12.1923 in Welschensteinach, married with Georg SCHWENDEMANN (son of 3.) 5. Katharina SCHNAITER, born ~1845 in Steinach, died 29.10.1921 in Welschensteinach, married with Josef SCHWENDEMANN Every piece of information is appreciated! Thanks a lot and best regards Frank ______________________________________ http://www.donn-ewe.net/Ahnenliste_Frank_Liepe.htm
Rodger, just found mentioned that Franz Klar from Achern was schoolmaster in Griesheim in 1735 till about 1737. Don't know if you already have that information. - Wendelin
Hallo Frank, > Vielen Dank für deine Tipps, ich habe die Ortsgeschichte von > Welschensteinach hier, aber wohl nicht genau genug gelesen ;-) ich habe mir mal die Mühe gemacht einen Index zu erstellen, da ich auch von dort Vorfahren haben. Du kannst den Index hier herunterladen: ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/welschensteinach.txt > An die Welschensteinach-Forscher: Hast Du schon die Mitgliederseite entdeckt auf der sich Welschensteinach-Forscher eingetragen haben: ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/search > P.S. Gibt es mehrere email Adressen der Ortenau-Liste? Ja manche (Maurine verwenden noch die Adresse deu-bad-ortenau-L@rootsweb.com und andere (Dan) deu-bad-ortenau-D@rootsweb.com Die meisten anderen benutzen deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com -L und -D sind Relikte der früheren Liste, die man nicht mehr benutzen muss. - Wendelin
Hi Wendelin, Vielen Dank für deine Tipps, ich habe die Ortsgeschichte von Welschensteinach hier, aber wohl nicht genau genug gelesen ;-) An die Welschensteinach-Forscher: Ich habe noch 2 weitere Welschensteinacher Vorfahren: 1. Paulina MAIER, geb. ca. 1815, verheiratet mit Bernhard Schwendemann (Christenhof) 2. Walburga AMBS, geb. ca. 1846, verheiratet mit Georg Schwendemann (Obereichhof), gest. am 22.12.1923 in Welschensteinach Tauchen diese Personen in Euren Datenbeständen auf? Ich würde mich sehr über jeden Hinweis freuen. Vielen Dank und Gruß aus Sindelfingen Frank P.S. Gibt es mehrere email Adressen der Ortenau-Liste? -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:deu-bad-ortenau-bounces@rootsweb.com] Im Auftrag von Wendelin Irslinger Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Januar 2008 19:01 An: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com Betreff: [Ortenau] Schwendemann in Welschensteinach Hallo Frank, Du hast zwar an die deutsche Liste geschrieben, doch da wir einige Welschensteinach-Forscher haben hier ein paar Hinweise: Über den Schwendenchristenhof steht etwas in der Ortsgeschichte von Welschensteinach: Josef Jäkle heiratete am 26.1.1767 eine Tochter des Schwendenchristenofes, Maria Agatha Schwendemann, geb. 1750. Ihr Vater war Martin Schwendemann, ihre Mutter eine geborene Ketterer aus Steinach-Runzengraben. 1823: Martin Schwendemann, Bauer im Untertal > Die direkten Vorfahren > heißen Schwendemann (fast alle Georg mit Vornamen) und wohnten > auf > dem oberen Eichhof in Welschensteinach. Ein Georg Schwendemann vom oberen Eichhof nahm am Krieg 1870/71 teil. Sind noch mehr Martin Schwendemanns erwähnt. - Wendelin --------------- ich bin auf der Suche nach weiteren Informationen/Vorfahren von folgenden Personen die in Welschensteinach und Umgebung gelebt haben: 1. Alois Schwendemann, geb. ca. 1780 vermutlich auf dem oberen Eichhof in Welschensteinach, verheiratet mit 2. Maria Kleinklaus, geb. ca. 1780 3. Martin Schwendemann, geb. ca. 1780 vermutlich auf dem Christenhof in Welschensteinach, verheiratet mit 4. Genovefa Fix, geb. ca. 1780 5. Simon Dreher, geb. ca. 1780 vermutlich in Einbach, verheiratet mit 6. Maria Anna THXXXX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hallo Frank, Du hast zwar an die deutsche Liste geschrieben, doch da wir einige Welschensteinach-Forscher haben hier ein paar Hinweise: Über den Schwendenchristenhof steht etwas in der Ortsgeschichte von Welschensteinach: Josef Jäkle heiratete am 26.1.1767 eine Tochter des Schwendenchristenofes, Maria Agatha Schwendemann, geb. 1750. Ihr Vater war Martin Schwendemann, ihre Mutter eine geborene Ketterer aus Steinach-Runzengraben. 1823: Martin Schwendemann, Bauer im Untertal > Die direkten Vorfahren > heißen Schwendemann (fast alle Georg mit Vornamen) und wohnten > auf > dem oberen Eichhof in Welschensteinach. Ein Georg Schwendemann vom oberen Eichhof nahm am Krieg 1870/71 teil. Sind noch mehr Martin Schwendemanns erwähnt. - Wendelin --------------- ich bin auf der Suche nach weiteren Informationen/Vorfahren von folgenden Personen die in Welschensteinach und Umgebung gelebt haben: 1. Alois Schwendemann, geb. ca. 1780 vermutlich auf dem oberen Eichhof in Welschensteinach, verheiratet mit 2. Maria Kleinklaus, geb. ca. 1780 3. Martin Schwendemann, geb. ca. 1780 vermutlich auf dem Christenhof in Welschensteinach, verheiratet mit 4. Genovefa Fix, geb. ca. 1780 5. Simon Dreher, geb. ca. 1780 vermutlich in Einbach, verheiratet mit 6. Maria Anna THXXXX
>From the back of my mind comes the thought that Wendelin has mentioned "Zedler's Universal Lexicon" to you in the past but I tried a Search at Rootsweb for our List and found no mention. (Probably my inability to know how to search Rootsweb.) The Lexicon (Zedlers Großes Universallexicon) is explained in detail (in English) at < http://www.hab.de/forschung/projekte/zedler-e.htm > which is a site of the Herzog August Bibliothek at Wolfenbüttel. Within that English language explanation the URLs of < http://mdz.bib-bvb.de/digbib/lexika/zedler > and < http://www.zedler-lexikon.de > are identified _ BUT_ I would not recommend this Lexicon source unless you have an excellent knowledge of the German language. In my own playing with the Lexicon the URL < http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~zedler/zedler2007/index.html > seemed to be a sufficient lead-in. If you know the German language with a knowledge better than others, this digitized Lexicon could be of value to you. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com