DJ: Thank you much. You have whetted my appetite, and now I want a copy of the Familienbuch to confirm the over 300 individuals in my database that were mostly sourced from Ellen Gerwitz's extensive but largely unattributed research. I have emailed Jutta. Wendelin: this is an intriguing possibility. Lauenburg in the late 17th century would correspond to the Horowitz lineage and might someday corroborate the Sephardic Jewish family lore. I've found the memberpages site, but can you help me find the list of Bohemians? (Family lore also includes a namesake town in north Germany. I've noticed a settlement near Lütjenburg named Gerwitz, settled by surname Gherwitze in 1320 and listed as the birthplace of another family in 1464. There's also Gerwisch, Saxony-Anhalt which was listed as Gherwitz around 1360. Neither of these can even be connected to the surname, though.) Thanks! --- hans.gerwitz On 6 Nov 2008, at 11:58, djweber wrote: > Hans > Wendelin, > > I have copied and am sending directly to your e-mail addresses the > details > listed for the family of Gottfried Gerwitz and Eva Ernst within the > Familienbuch for Önsbach. As this LIst is archived and most > logically Herr > Weber's book would be under copyright, I would not desire to violate > the > author's rights. > > Hans, now for the qualification in what I have copied for above. > You know > that the finger which types "z" and "a" does its own thing at > times. In > addition, typing the book details means that I was holding the book > open > with one hand and typing with the other. Who knows what I typed > wrong and can't figure out this time even with a proof reading. > >> From your emigrant Gerwitz upward in your ancestry, there should be >> a number > of different ancestral lines, all of which probably are in the > Familienbuch. > I strongly suggest that the Familienbuch would be a wise investment > for you. > > ------------------------- > > My guess would be that additional children were baptized between > 1714 and > 1721. My further guess is that those children died at an early age > and > missed the listing in the Church Registers or had been in one of the > Registers which was destroyed in one of French incursions. Those > French > acts would have been over a number of years, including the 1670s, > 1690, > during any of the Wars of the Spanish, Polish or Austrian > Succession. The > parish house in Fautenbach was destroyed several times by the French > and the > LDS films of those Church Registers for Fautenbach and other > neighboring > towns do have missing years. > > djweber > djwdjw@ix.netcom.com > ------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendelin Irslinger" <genealogy@axxess.co.za> > To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Gerwitz > > > dj, Hans and all, > >> The earliest Gerwitz of your line in the Familienbuch, Gottfried >> Gerwitz is identified with the words "Badischer Jäger". > as a Baden hunter Gottfried Gerwitz came perhaps from another Baden > area. > Was Gottfried the first or were there some other Gerwitz? > > Önsbach belonged at this time (when the parish records for Önsbach > begin) to the Landvogtei Ortenau and the Landvogtei Ortenau was as a > fief ruled by the margraves of Baden-Baden from 1701 till 1771. > Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm of Baden (Baden-Baden) (1655-1707) received > the > Ortenau because of his victories against Turkish armies. > > Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm married Franziska Sibylla Augusta of > Sachsen-Lauenburg in 1690. Princess Franziska Sibylla Augusta brought > a number of servants from Bohemia. A special page about Rastatt on our > memberpages lists some of the names from Bohemia, one also with -witz. > So I think the first Gerwitz in Önsbach or his father could also be > one > that servants. > > - Wendelin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

dj, Hans and all, > The earliest Gerwitz of your line in the Familienbuch, Gottfried > Gerwitz is identified with the words "Badischer Jäger". as a Baden hunter Gottfried Gerwitz came perhaps from another Baden area. Was Gottfried the first or were there some other Gerwitz? Önsbach belonged at this time (when the parish records for Önsbach begin) to the Landvogtei Ortenau and the Landvogtei Ortenau was as a fief ruled by the margraves of Baden-Baden from 1701 till 1771. Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm of Baden (Baden-Baden) (1655-1707) received the Ortenau because of his victories against Turkish armies. Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm married Franziska Sibylla Augusta of Sachsen-Lauenburg in 1690. Princess Franziska Sibylla Augusta brought a number of servants from Bohemia. A special page about Rastatt on our memberpages lists some of the names from Bohemia, one also with -witz. So I think the first Gerwitz in Önsbach or his father could also be one that servants. - Wendelin

Hans Wendelin, I have copied and am sending directly to your e-mail addresses the details listed for the family of Gottfried Gerwitz and Eva Ernst within the Familienbuch for Önsbach. As this LIst is archived and most logically Herr Weber's book would be under copyright, I would not desire to violate the author's rights. Hans, now for the qualification in what I have copied for above. You know that the finger which types "z" and "a" does its own thing at times. In addition, typing the book details means that I was holding the book open with one hand and typing with the other. Who knows what I typed wrong and can't figure out this time even with a proof reading. >From your emigrant Gerwitz upward in your ancestry, there should be a number of different ancestral lines, all of which probably are in the Familienbuch. I strongly suggest that the Familienbuch would be a wise investment for you. ------------------------- My guess would be that additional children were baptized between 1714 and 1721. My further guess is that those children died at an early age and missed the listing in the Church Registers or had been in one of the Registers which was destroyed in one of French incursions. Those French acts would have been over a number of years, including the 1670s, 1690, during any of the Wars of the Spanish, Polish or Austrian Succession. The parish house in Fautenbach was destroyed several times by the French and the LDS films of those Church Registers for Fautenbach and other neighboring towns do have missing years. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendelin Irslinger" <genealogy@axxess.co.za> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Gerwitz dj, Hans and all, > The earliest Gerwitz of your line in the Familienbuch, Gottfried > Gerwitz is identified with the words "Badischer Jäger". as a Baden hunter Gottfried Gerwitz came perhaps from another Baden area. Was Gottfried the first or were there some other Gerwitz? Önsbach belonged at this time (when the parish records for Önsbach begin) to the Landvogtei Ortenau and the Landvogtei Ortenau was as a fief ruled by the margraves of Baden-Baden from 1701 till 1771. Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm of Baden (Baden-Baden) (1655-1707) received the Ortenau because of his victories against Turkish armies. Margrave Ludwig Wilhelm married Franziska Sibylla Augusta of Sachsen-Lauenburg in 1690. Princess Franziska Sibylla Augusta brought a number of servants from Bohemia. A special page about Rastatt on our memberpages lists some of the names from Bohemia, one also with -witz. So I think the first Gerwitz in Önsbach or his father could also be one that servants. - Wendelin

DJ, Typing problems are called FAT FINGERS in computer lingo. In a message dated 11/6/2008 2:18:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, deu-bad-ortenau-request@rootsweb.com writes: I mentioned I was having computer problems. Apparently I have typing problems also.....certainly where I have IN ERROR typed Gerwita. I meant Gerwitz. That little finger has a mind of its own? djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)

Hans, I mentioned I was having computer problems. Apparently I have typing problems also.....certainly where I have IN ERROR typed Gerwita. I meant Gerwitz. That little finger has a mind of its own? djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com -----Original Message----- >From: djwdjw@ix.netcom.com >Sent: Nov 4, 2008 11:16 PM >To: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Ortenau] Gerwitz > >I'm having computer trouble...hopefully this has gone out only once. > >Hans, > >A bunch of questions in return.... > >Have you seen/do you own a copy of Eugen Weber's "Familienbuch der Gemeinde Önsbach in Baden" which was published in 2004. This book is one of a number of Town books of Baden and is listed at Wendelin's companion page of < http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/search/ >, click on Sources, look for the line which starts "Liste der Ortsfamilienbücher...", another click and go down to book number 108. > >My last e-mail address about this book was < jutta.eis@gmx.de > which was the address of Eugen's daughter Jutta. It is possible that another on this List may be able to offer you better details about the current availability of the Familienbuch if you do not own it. Herr Weber lives in Mörlenbach. > >Your Gerwitz families are listed as families 677, 678, 679 and 685 identifying that Simon left Baden for America in 1867. The family of Eva Ernst goes back one further generation and her family is listed as family 577. > >With a copy of this message, I would ask another for help. One of our List members is originally from Önsbach and has done much work on searching the emigrants from that town. In addition she had has access to some details prepared a number of years ago by a Priest of the town. Perhaps she might have some additional details for you. > >My own Sauer ancestry from Önsbach fits in with part of the Gerwitz line but at an 1819 marriage and NOT directly to your line. Vincenz Gerwita (1792-1869) who was a son of the Simon Gerwitz-Maria Theresia Haas marriage married Rosalia Spengler in that 1819 marriage. Simon was the eldest child while your Johann Gottfried was the youngest son from the marriage of your Gottfried Gerwitz-Maria Cleopha Sack marriage. I have used the spellings as suggested in the Familienbuch although there is the indication that Sach could have been sugg or Sucher. (If I had a guess, I might believe in the surname Sucher based on the reusing of first names within a family.) > >My connection: >Vincenz Gerwita married Rosalia Spengler in 1819. >Rosalia was the daughter of Michael Spengler and Magdalena Hofer who married in 1793. >Magdalena was the dauhgter of Franz Xaver Hofer and Maria Anna Saur who married in 1763. >Maria anna was the daughter of Johannes Saur and Cleophe Sucher who married at Urloffen in 1722. (The Sucher family was of Önsbach while the Saur family at that time lived in Urloffen.) > >After I had searched through the filmed copies of the Church Registers of both Fautenbach and Önsbach, I found on-line some Gerwitz details covering a line of the family which had emigrated from Önsbach to New York and to Illinois. Either my eyes were going bad to worse as I read those Church Registers or.....there were discrepancies between my results and some of the on-line statements. I add this thought merely as a reminder that perhaps not everything published on-line is correct. (For another line from another town in Baden, I have been trying to explain to the woman who posted the Tree that sister and brother did not marry and that children of more years of age than their listed parents would not be possible. She does not understand....just be cautious if you find any on-line details. Double check!) The Familienbuch may be your better investment although there are enough of us on this List with Önsbach ancestry that you may be able to get what you need. > >Keep in mind that early records....before the Church Registers....rarely would exist. For Önsbach as part of Habsburg lands and being directly across the river from France meant that the French often raided, leaving destruction and death in the area. > >The earliest Gerwitz of your line in the Familienbuch, Gottfried Gerwitz is identified with the words "Badischer Jäger". > >djweber >djwdjw@ix.netcom.com >(Hans I am not related to Eugen Weber. My sole connection to the town of Önsbach is my Sur/Saur/Sauer familly but after finding the first Saur in Önsbach, I have attempted to work a downward tree to equal in time my emigrating ancestor.) > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm having computer trouble...hopefully this has gone out only once. Hans, A bunch of questions in return.... Have you seen/do you own a copy of Eugen Weber's "Familienbuch der Gemeinde Önsbach in Baden" which was published in 2004. This book is one of a number of Town books of Baden and is listed at Wendelin's companion page of < http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/search/ >, click on Sources, look for the line which starts "Liste der Ortsfamilienbücher...", another click and go down to book number 108. My last e-mail address about this book was < jutta.eis@gmx.de > which was the address of Eugen's daughter Jutta. It is possible that another on this List may be able to offer you better details about the current availability of the Familienbuch if you do not own it. Herr Weber lives in Mörlenbach. Your Gerwitz families are listed as families 677, 678, 679 and 685 identifying that Simon left Baden for America in 1867. The family of Eva Ernst goes back one further generation and her family is listed as family 577. With a copy of this message, I would ask another for help. One of our List members is originally from Önsbach and has done much work on searching the emigrants from that town. In addition she had has access to some details prepared a number of years ago by a Priest of the town. Perhaps she might have some additional details for you. My own Sauer ancestry from Önsbach fits in with part of the Gerwitz line but at an 1819 marriage and NOT directly to your line. Vincenz Gerwita (1792-1869) who was a son of the Simon Gerwitz-Maria Theresia Haas marriage married Rosalia Spengler in that 1819 marriage. Simon was the eldest child while your Johann Gottfried was the youngest son from the marriage of your Gottfried Gerwitz-Maria Cleopha Sack marriage. I have used the spellings as suggested in the Familienbuch although there is the indication that Sach could have been sugg or Sucher. (If I had a guess, I might believe in the surname Sucher based on the reusing of first names within a family.) My connection: Vincenz Gerwita married Rosalia Spengler in 1819. Rosalia was the daughter of Michael Spengler and Magdalena Hofer who married in 1793. Magdalena was the dauhgter of Franz Xaver Hofer and Maria Anna Saur who married in 1763. Maria anna was the daughter of Johannes Saur and Cleophe Sucher who married at Urloffen in 1722. (The Sucher family was of Önsbach while the Saur family at that time lived in Urloffen.) After I had searched through the filmed copies of the Church Registers of both Fautenbach and Önsbach, I found on-line some Gerwitz details covering a line of the family which had emigrated from Önsbach to New York and to Illinois. Either my eyes were going bad to worse as I read those Church Registers or.....there were discrepancies between my results and some of the on-line statements. I add this thought merely as a reminder that perhaps not everything published on-line is correct. (For another line from another town in Baden, I have been trying to explain to the woman who posted the Tree that sister and brother did not marry and that children of more years of age than their listed parents would not be possible. She does not understand....just be cautious if you find any on-line details. Double check!) The Familienbuch may be your better investment although there are enough of us on this List with Önsbach ancestry that you may be able to get what you need. Keep in mind that early records....before the Church Registers....rarely would exist. For Önsbach as part of Habsburg lands and being directly across the river from France meant that the French often raided, leaving destruction and death in the area. The earliest Gerwitz of your line in the Familienbuch, Gottfried Gerwitz is identified with the words "Badischer Jäger". djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com (Hans I am not related to Eugen Weber. My sole connection to the town of Önsbach is my Sur/Saur/Sauer familly but after finding the first Saur in Önsbach, I have attempted to work a downward tree to equal in time my emigrating ancestor.)

Brian, You could be very lucky with the rag content of your papers. >From your comments, the manufacture of the involved paper may be on the cusp between complete rag content paper and wood pulp paper. I might suggest a < google.com > search for you on the history of paper making. I think, I believe and my memory suggests that it was the middle of the 1800s when wood pulp paper really became an active commodity. That memory also suggests that wood pulp paper did not reach the U S until the early 1900s. Properly and efficiently sorted used rages were still the major source of manufactured paper up to the middle 1800s although the Germans, the Swedes and the French, in particular, had been working on wood pulp paper for a number of years before those middle 1800s. The quality of the papers which you have may be excellent with their rag content and may need less protective measures than any of today's paper. djweber djwdjw@ix.netcom.com

Hello Hans, I'm glad you found the list too! My 6th Great Grandfather is Gottfried Gorrwitz d. 05 Apr 1747 in Önsbach. I am descended from his daughter Elizabeth Gerwitz b. ca 1713 who married Georg Armbruster. I'd be happy to share any information I have on them. Paul (in Virginia) ----Original Message----- From: Hans Gerwitz <hans@gerwitz.com> To: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 1:02 am Subject: [Ortenau] Gerwitz in Onsbach (Achern) I'm thrilled to find this list! My surname, Gerwitz, is well established to Önsbach (outside Achern) via a series of emigrations around 1870. Family lore has it that the Görrwitz family occupied the same home (which I've been to see) from the 16th century, and there are stories that the surname has Sephardic Jewish origins, expelled from Spain in 1492. Unfortunately, these stories can be traced only to records destroyed in WWII. Building on the tremendous efforts of Debbi Girth, Elizabeth Gerwitz, and many others, I've assembled quite a bit of my paternal line, but my direct Önsbach line is still quite small: http://www.gerwitz.com/genealogy/pedigree.php?rootid=I7899&PEDIGREE_GENERATIONS=5 I'd love to find others who research this name or the associated Ernst, Sugg, Siefermann, Braun, Weber, Kiefer and will help as I can. (I now live in Seattle where research is difficult.) --- hans.gerwitz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Hans, have you already found our memberpage which has additional information about some towns? The name Gerwitz is listed in Urloffen, in the emigration list of Önsbach and veterans of the Napoleonic Wars from Önsbach. Also the Napoleonic War veteran Sigm. Görrwitz from Fautenbach. And in Urloffen the Vogt (overseer) Görwitz, who was murdered (also his wife and 2 daughters) in 1817. - Wendelin On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:02:30 -0800 Hans Gerwitz <hans@gerwitz.com> wrote: > I'm thrilled to find this list! > > My surname, Gerwitz, is well established to Önsbach (outside Achern) > via a series of emigrations around 1870. Family lore has it that > the Görrwitz family occupied the same home (which I've been to see) > from the 16th century, and there are stories that the surname has > Sephardic Jewish origins, expelled from Spain in 1492. > Unfortunately, these stories can be traced only to records destroyed > in WWII. > > Building on the tremendous efforts of Debbi Girth, Elizabeth > Gerwitz, and many others, I've assembled quite a bit of my paternal > line, but my direct Önsbach line is still quite small: > > http://www.gerwitz.com/genealogy/pedigree.php?rootid=I7899&PEDIGREE_GENERATIONS=5 > > I'd love to find others who research this name or the associated > Ernst, Sugg, Siefermann, Braun, Weber, Kiefer and will help as I > can. (I now live in Seattle where research is difficult.) > > --- > hans.gerwitz >

I'm thrilled to find this list! My surname, Gerwitz, is well established to Önsbach (outside Achern) via a series of emigrations around 1870. Family lore has it that the Görrwitz family occupied the same home (which I've been to see) from the 16th century, and there are stories that the surname has Sephardic Jewish origins, expelled from Spain in 1492. Unfortunately, these stories can be traced only to records destroyed in WWII. Building on the tremendous efforts of Debbi Girth, Elizabeth Gerwitz, and many others, I've assembled quite a bit of my paternal line, but my direct Önsbach line is still quite small: http://www.gerwitz.com/genealogy/pedigree.php?rootid=I7899&PEDIGREE_GENERATIONS=5 I'd love to find others who research this name or the associated Ernst, Sugg, Siefermann, Braun, Weber, Kiefer and will help as I can. (I now live in Seattle where research is difficult.) --- hans.gerwitz

Wendelin, I'm requesting access to the site. My email is pfarmbruster@aol.com Thanks, Paul -----Original Message----- From: Wendelin Irslinger <genealogy@babbalu.com> To: deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 1:13 pm Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Update Hello, > In the next days I want to include links to maps (in simple style) on > the pages so you can see which towns, hamlets and sometimes farms > belong to a community. done. I searched for a place to upload photos, graphics, maps... Finally I created a special page with Google Sites at: http://sites.mortenau.de The pictures are for personal use only so approved members only can visit that page. To view the page you must have or create a Google account which is very easy: https://www.google.com/accounts/CreateAccount Then send me your email address and I include you to the list of approved visitors. I already included some pictures and will upload more in the next days. Maybe you have also some pictures to share. Ich suchte nach einem Ort um Fotos, Grafiken, Karten zu speichern. Schließlich erzeugte ich eine spezielle Seite mit Google Sites bei http://sites.mortenau.de Die Bilder sind nur für den persönlichen Gebrauch sodass nur genehmigte Mitglieder die Seite besuchen können. Um die Seite zu sehen, muss man ein Google Konto erzeugen, was sehr einfach ist: https://www.google.com/accounts/CreateAccount Sendet mir dann eure Email Adresse und ich füge dich der Liste der genehmigten Besucher hinzu. - Wendelin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, an interesting webpage for researchers in the parish Rheinbischofsheim (former called Bischofsheim). To the parish belongs Hausgereut and Holzhausen and till 1731 also Diersheim. It seems you can now download pdf files of the parish records at: http://www.smithdom.de/ekibi/ Click on "Genealogy & Ahnenforschung" You can also buy all documents on a CD. Eine interessante Webseite für Forscher in der Pfarrei Rheinbischofsheim. Zu der Pfarrei gehören Hausgereut und Holzhausen und bis 1731 auch Diersheim. Es scheint dass man nun pdf-Dateien der Kirchenbucheinträge herunterladen kann unter: http://www.smithdom.de/ekibi/ Klicke auf "Genealogy & Ahnenforschung" Man kann auch alle Dokument auf einer CD kaufen. - Wendelin

Guten Abend Wendelin, was bitte ist ein mortenau.de Account und was verbirgt dahinter? Ich vermute, Du hast da noch Einiges auf Lager? Falls es auch für andere interessant sein könnte, bitte ich um Informationen. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Thomas (Adam) Wendelin Irslinger schrieb: > Hallo Kurt, > > Mitglieder die einen mortenau.de Account haben können die Seite auch > ohne ausdrückliche Genehmigung besuchen. > Auf der Seite > http://sites.mortenau.de/home > einloggen. Dort nicht wie die anderen Mitglieder auf den Link klicken, > sondern im Feld "Melden Sie sich in Ihrem Konto unter Mortenau.de an." > anmelden. Im Feld "Nutzername" den ersten Teil der Emailadresse > eingeben. > > Gruss, > Wendelin > > > On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:33:33 +0100 > <> wrote: > > >> Hallo Wendelin, >> >> ich schließe mich gerne an... >> >> Herzliche Grüße >> >> Kurt Erlemann >>

Please add my name to your list. jcbusam@embarqmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendelin Irslinger" <genealogy@babbalu.com> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: [Ortenau] Update > Hello, > > I made an Update on the main page at genealogy-bw.de resp. mortenau.de > > Prior I had a listing of communities, since some days a listing of > towns on that page. > Now I decided to include a link to the page so you can choose the > listing of communities (with link "Gemeinden (Communties)" or the > listing of towns (with link "Orte (Towns)". > > In the next days I want to include links to maps (in simple style) on > the pages so you can see which towns, hamlets and sometimes farms > belong to a community. > > > Früher hatte ich eine Auflistung nach Gemeinden, seit einigen Tagen > eine Auflistung nach Orten auf der Seite. > Jetzt habe ich mich entschlossen einen Link auf der Seite hinzuzufügen, > sodass man eine Auflistung nach Gemeinden (mit Link "Gemeinden > (Communties)" oder der Auflisting nach Orten (mit Link "Orte (Towns)" > wählen kann. > > - Wendelin > > >

Hallo Wendelin, ich schließe mich gerne an... Herzliche Grüße Kurt Erlemann 23 members are now able to view that page. - Wendelin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Wendelin, Please Include in the list. peterandrose@yahoo.ca Thank you Rose Goutbeck in Fort Saskatchewan, Alberta, Canada

Bin ich auch schon mit dabei? Muss aber gestehen, ich habs nicht ganz verstanden um was es geht... Lg Gabi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendelin Irslinger" <genealogy@babbalu.com> To: <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Linda" <Olive-rose@cox.net>; <deu-bad-ortenau@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Update > Hello Linda, > > The start page is: > http://sites.mortenau.de/home/ > At the bottom of that page is a special link which you must click on: > "Don't have an account at Mortenau.de? Sign in with a different account" > > I included 19 members until now. > > - Wendelin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEU-BAD-ORTENAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>> But keep in mind, paper does not last forever, the paper they use today >> will probably last for 100 - 150 years, depending on the quality. That is true for certain paper containing acids that was produced in the 19th century. This paper is falling apart because of those acids, but there are methods to rescue it. Older paper is longer-lasting (depending on how it is treated). There are books an documents which are much older and in fine condition. Kind regards, Renate

Wendolin, Two things: 1) I can not seem to access this new page. 2) I'd like to be able to access it; please add my name/email address. Beverly Mack Zanon Researching - BUSAM in Nussbach & Offenburg In a message dated 10/31/2008 2:17:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, deu-bad-ortenau-request@rootsweb.com writes: http://sites.mortenau.de/home/ **************Plan your next getaway with AOL Travel. Check out Today's Hot 5 Travel Deals! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212416248x1200771803/aol?redir=http://travel.aol.com/discount-travel?ncid=emlcntustrav00000001)

I also would like to be included. Thanks Suzanne Brayer sybrayer@cox.net