Hello: A possible source for familyresearch are the old documents in the archive. Prior there were many cloisters which had large landed property. One of those was the former cloister Wittichen. A compilation is available for a book (written 1745/51) which contains copies of documents 14th - 18th century. The towns are: A Gengenbach and Strohbach B Bermersbach and Wingerbach C Reichenbach and Ohlsbach D Ortenberg E Offenburg F Griesheim G Waltersweier H Hofweier I Niederschopfheim K Zunsweier L Harmersbach M Welschensteinach N Haslach I made scans of the index of names: http://ortenau.50free.org/wittichen/ One example: Ockhenfieß Jeckhlin 1335 E/1; means Offenburg in 1335. If you need information to a special name and the entry please let me know. Die beglaubigten Abschriften der Briefe der Schaffnei Gengenbach 14.-18. Jh. Regesten des Bandes von 1745/51 "Abschriften der Gengenbacher Schaffney Briefschafften (Gengenbach und Strobach, Bermerspach und Müngerbach, Reichenbach und Ohlspach, Orttenberg, Offonburg, Grießheimb, Waltersweyer, Hoffweyer, Niederschopfen, Suntzweyer, Harmerspach, Welschensteinach, Haaßlach). Wendelin

An older list for Zell am Harmersbach, Biberach, Entersbach and Nordrach has 36 names, a newer list more than 100. In Harmersbach there were 82 executions (11 male) 1573-1660. In Haslach about 22. In Gengenbach 70 executions between 1627-1631. I don't have the newer list (has someone the book: "Aktenauszüge aus dem Städtischen Archiv Zell am Harmersbach" ?) but only few names (and other names): Maria, wife of Simon Isenmann (baker), Zell, executed, 1650 Lucia, widow of Hans Buß, Nordrach, executed, 1650 Simon Buß, Biberach, executed, 1653 Conrad Feger ("der Sackpfeifer"), executed (beheaded), 1680 Susanna Koler (midwife), Entersbach, executed, 1680 Wife of Sebastian Breig, Birach, executed, 1617 Anna, wife of Hans Bruder, Riersbach, executed 1650 Wife of Georg Kempf, Harmersbach, executed, 1625 Anna Sohler, executed, 1629 Conrad Öhler, Nordrach, executed, 1650 Here the old list for Zell am Harmersbach, Biberach, Entersbach, Nordrach: 7 women executed in 1598 Magdalena, wife of Urban Wollenber, Entersbach, released, 1599 Juditha, wife of Hans Weißkopf, Biberach, executed, 1603 Wife of Jacob Villinger, Biberach, executed, 1603 Wife of Andreas Sohler (overseer), Biberach, executed, 1603 Apollonia Damm, wife of Jacob Halder, Oberentersbach, executed (beheaded), 1609 Anna Isenmann, widow of Jacob Künstlin, Unterentersbach, executed (beheaded), 1609. Sara, wife of Lux Killig, Oberentersbach, ran away, 1613 Catharina Eisenmann (60 years), widow of Christoph Palmtag, Biberach, executed, 1652 Anna Satzger (called Kaiser Anna) (over 50 years), Nordrach, executed, 1652 Sabina Mayer (44 years), wife of Hans Jacob Dünkhel, Zell, executed, 1652 Anna Eisenmann (40 years), wife of Geörg Hinen (Miller), executed, 1652 Eva Liber (60 years), widow of Hans Eisenmann, Nordrach, executed, 1652 Maria Weißköpf (about 40 years), Biberach, executed (beheaded), 1652 Catharina Bräug (about 60 years), widow of the overseer, Nordrach, executed (beheaded), 1652 Barbara Schüler (45 years), wife of Jacob Hermann, Nordrach, executed (beheaded), 1652 Johann Eisenmann (60 years), Entersbach, executed (beheaded), 1652 Catharina Reihler, wife of Martin Spitzmüller, Nordrach, executed, 1653 Ursula Eisenmann (48), wife of Georg Hermann, Nordrach, executed, 1653 Margaretha Marx (about 50 years), wife of Hans Bildstein, Oberentersbach, executed, 1653 Simon Buß (48 years), Nordrach, executed, 1653 Eva Schiler (65 years), wife of Hans Spet, Nordrach, executed, 1653 Jacobea Sohler, wife of Caspar Lorenz (glacier), Zell, executed, 1653 Catharina Schmid (50 years), wife of Hans Caspar (shoemaker), Zell, executed, 1653 Jacob Hermann, unmarried, Nordrach, executed, 1653 Maria Stehlin (70 years), wife of Michel Kopf, Biberach, executed, 1653 Barbara Kohler (50 years), wife of Georg Lieber, Nordrach, executed, 1653 Anna Zoch, unkown if executed, 1680 Ursula Hauenstein, unkown if executed, 1680 ... Buchholzen, died during the torture, 1680 Eva Horbach (about 80 years), Oberentersbach, executed, 1681

Dan, source is the yearbook "Die Ortenau" of 1994 wherein Karl Maier wrote "Hexenprozesse im Landgericht Appenweier" (29 pages). Wendelin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Bravard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] witches > Wendelin: > > This in an interesting list and I would like to share it with my Urloffen > List Subscribers. What is the source of this list? What let you to this > search? > > Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendelin Irslinger" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Ortenau] witches > > > > Here the list for Appenweier, Urloffen, Zimmern (and 1 of Bottenau, > Griesheim, > > Herztal):

I recommend: Hans Christian Erik Midelfort, Witch Hunting in Southwestern Germany 1562-1684 - The Social and Intellectual Foundations, Stanford 1972. Some examples for accusations in Appenweier, Urloffen, Zimmern: Hans Marggraf accused Catharina (wife of Erhardt Wolf) she is responsible for his impotence. She was also responsible for bad weather. Dietrich Kayser and Christmann Geltreich accused Appolonia Miller she is responsible for the death of cattle. Jacob Sauer accused his stepmother Susanne Hain she is responsible for his (and others did the same: Hans Hölzle, Philipp Remp) impotence. Priest Stahel told she was also responsible for the death of her stepson Mathern Sauer. Priest Synoth (Symoth) accused Barthel Pfeiffer and his wife Brigitha (she was midwife), Brigitha is responsible of stillborn children. Priest Melchior accused Margarete Sauer (wife of Hans Sauer) she is responsible for the death of his cook and the cook's stillborn child. She was accused by others she is responsible for fog. Jail of "Landvogtei Ortenau" was castle Ortenberg. Place of execution was near Ortenberg or in the hometown. Public prosecutor were the secretary of the Landvogtei, the administrator ("Schaffner"), the overseer of the Gericht Zunsweier and others. The members of the court came from different towns of the Landvogtei. There was also a intercessor. There are 2 theories why the witch hunting ended in Offenburg (and therefore maybe also in the Landvogtei) in 1630: - The Swedes didn't allow witch hunting. - One woman was able to endure a special torture (an iron seat) without confession. The Landvogtei was only a small part of the nowadays Ortenau. The other dominations had own courts, jails, place of executions. Wendelin

Wendelin: This in an interesting list and I would like to share it with my Urloffen List Subscribers. What is the source of this list? What let you to this search? Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendelin Irslinger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] witches > Here the list for Appenweier, Urloffen, Zimmern (and 1 of Bottenau, Griesheim, > Herztal): > > Bleich Hans, Urloffen, executed, 1630 > Bremß Katharina, Appenweier, executed, 1628 > Brünklin Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1629 > Brünklin Hans, Appenweier, confession, 1630 > Brünklin Margarethe, Appenweier, confession, 1630 > Butz Jacob, Urloffen, sentence of death, 1601 > Cranz Martin, Urloffen, confession, 1629 > Eckart Maria, Urloffen, executed, 1629 > Erhardt Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 > Gering Anna, Appenweier, torture protocoll, 1629 > Gering Hans, Appenweier, confession, 1630 > Gering Jacob, Appenweier, confession, 1629 > Groß Anna, Appenweier, executed, 1629 > Grüner Magdalena, Appenweier, torture protocoll, 1629 > Hain (Hein) Anna, Appenweier, executed, 1630 > Halm Catharina, Urloffen, sentence of death, 1630 > Halm Maria, Urloffen, executed, 1630 > Häußler Elisabeth, Appenweier, executed, 1629 > Horn Barbara, Urloffen, sentence of death, 1630 > Huppenecker Margaretha, Appenweier, executed, 1630 > Koch Katharina, Appenweier, confession, 1629 > Kuon Margaretha, Appenweier, confession, 1629 > Kuon Sophia, Appenweier, executed, 1595 > Lenz Barbara, Zimmern, executed, 1569 > Lenz Wolf, Zimmern, executed, 1569 > Loch Maria, Appenweier, executed, 1630 > Marggraf Barbara, Appenweier, executed, 1630 > Marggraf Christina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 > Marggraf Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 > May Catharina, Appenweier, confession, 1630 > Mengiß Brigida, Appenweier, suicide in jail, 1629 > Miller Appolonia, Urloffen, died in jail, 1602 > Neuenstein Eva (Ena), Urloffen, sentence of death, 1630 > Pfeiffer Brigitta, Urloffen, executed, 1599 > Pfeller Brigida, Appenweier, sentence of death, 1629 > Pfeller Jacob, Appenweier, confession, 1630 > Ramshurster Anna, Urloffen, executed, 1630 > Reinuß Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1629 > Reinuß Maria, Appenweier, confession, 1629 > Remp Christina, Appenweier, confession, 1629 > Rempiß Barbara, Urloffen, executed, 1628 > Roß Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 > Ruen Eva, Appenweier, executed, 1629 > Sänger (Thänger) Anna, Appenweier, executed, 1630 > Sauer Appolonia, Appenweier, confession, 1630 > Sauer Ludwig, Appenweier, confession, 1630 > Sauer Margaretha, Appenweier, executed, 1608 > Schertlein Anna, Appenweier, confession, 1629 > Schiffmann Barbara, Appenweier, executed, 1595 > Schneider Barbara, Appenweier, executed, 1629 > Schneider Catharina, Urloffen, executed, 1630 > Schneider Ursula, Urloffen, confession, 1630 > Widmar Barbara, Appenweier, confession, 1629 > > Byser Urban, Bottenau(?) > Lurker Barbara, Griesheim > Schwarz Barbara, Herztal > > Pfeiffer Barthlin, clemency > Ketter Margarete, probably clemency > > ______________________________ >

Thank you for the lists, Wendelin! Do you know how this "witchcraft" problem started? Here in the Colonies, it was because they ate moldy rye and other cereals and grasses, hence ergot, and were actually poisoned. It made them have convulsions, and it can cause gangrene. At least, this is my understanding. Do you know why they took it to be an omen of sorts? What made them look at the effect instead of look for the cause? Just wondering, Jeanne

Here the list for Appenweier, Urloffen, Zimmern (and 1 of Bottenau, Griesheim, Herztal): Bleich Hans, Urloffen, executed, 1630 Bremß Katharina, Appenweier, executed, 1628 Brünklin Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Brünklin Hans, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Brünklin Margarethe, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Butz Jacob, Urloffen, sentence of death, 1601 Cranz Martin, Urloffen, confession, 1629 Eckart Maria, Urloffen, executed, 1629 Erhardt Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Gering Anna, Appenweier, torture protocoll, 1629 Gering Hans, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Gering Jacob, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Groß Anna, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Grüner Magdalena, Appenweier, torture protocoll, 1629 Hain (Hein) Anna, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Halm Catharina, Urloffen, sentence of death, 1630 Halm Maria, Urloffen, executed, 1630 Häußler Elisabeth, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Horn Barbara, Urloffen, sentence of death, 1630 Huppenecker Margaretha, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Koch Katharina, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Kuon Margaretha, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Kuon Sophia, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Lenz Barbara, Zimmern, executed, 1569 Lenz Wolf, Zimmern, executed, 1569 Loch Maria, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Marggraf Barbara, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Marggraf Christina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Marggraf Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 May Catharina, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Mengiß Brigida, Appenweier, suicide in jail, 1629 Miller Appolonia, Urloffen, died in jail, 1602 Neuenstein Eva (Ena), Urloffen, sentence of death, 1630 Pfeiffer Brigitta, Urloffen, executed, 1599 Pfeller Brigida, Appenweier, sentence of death, 1629 Pfeller Jacob, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Ramshurster Anna, Urloffen, executed, 1630 Reinuß Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Reinuß Maria, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Remp Christina, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Rempiß Barbara, Urloffen, executed, 1628 Roß Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Ruen Eva, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Sänger (Thänger) Anna, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Sauer Appolonia, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Sauer Ludwig, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Sauer Margaretha, Appenweier, executed, 1608 Schertlein Anna, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Schiffmann Barbara, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Schneider Barbara, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Schneider Catharina, Urloffen, executed, 1630 Schneider Ursula, Urloffen, confession, 1630 Widmar Barbara, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Byser Urban, Bottenau(?) Lurker Barbara, Griesheim Schwarz Barbara, Herztal Pfeiffer Barthlin, clemency Ketter Margarete, probably clemency

Hmm .... so men were also accused of witchcraft! Interesting. Many thanks for these lists, Wendelin. Does your information say what was considered witchcraft? Like, was breaking the law considered witchcraft, or was it something more bizarre? Fortunately, my Barbara Widemer was born in 1681, and my Sauer ancestors managed to stay off this list - but it's creepy to think of humans being burned at the stake! Carol -----Original Message----- From: Wendelin Irslinger [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 12:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Ortenau] witches Here the list for Appenweier, Urloffen, Zimmern (and 1 of Bottenau, Griesheim, Herztal): Bleich Hans, Urloffen, executed, 1630 Bremß Katharina, Appenweier, executed, 1628 Brünklin Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Brünklin Hans, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Brünklin Margarethe, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Butz Jacob, Urloffen, sentence of death, 1601 Cranz Martin, Urloffen, confession, 1629 Eckart Maria, Urloffen, executed, 1629 Erhardt Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Gering Anna, Appenweier, torture protocoll, 1629 Gering Hans, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Gering Jacob, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Groß Anna, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Grüner Magdalena, Appenweier, torture protocoll, 1629 Hain (Hein) Anna, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Halm Catharina, Urloffen, sentence of death, 1630 Halm Maria, Urloffen, executed, 1630 Häußler Elisabeth, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Horn Barbara, Urloffen, sentence of death, 1630 Huppenecker Margaretha, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Koch Katharina, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Kuon Margaretha, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Kuon Sophia, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Lenz Barbara, Zimmern, executed, 1569 Lenz Wolf, Zimmern, executed, 1569 Loch Maria, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Marggraf Barbara, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Marggraf Christina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Marggraf Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 May Catharina, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Mengiß Brigida, Appenweier, suicide in jail, 1629 Miller Appolonia, Urloffen, died in jail, 1602 Neuenstein Eva (Ena), Urloffen, sentence of death, 1630 Pfeiffer Brigitta, Urloffen, executed, 1599 Pfeller Brigida, Appenweier, sentence of death, 1629 Pfeller Jacob, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Ramshurster Anna, Urloffen, executed, 1630 Reinuß Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Reinuß Maria, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Remp Christina, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Rempiß Barbara, Urloffen, executed, 1628 Roß Catharina, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Ruen Eva, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Sänger (Thänger) Anna, Appenweier, executed, 1630 Sauer Appolonia, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Sauer Ludwig, Appenweier, confession, 1630 Sauer Margaretha, Appenweier, executed, 1608 Schertlein Anna, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Schiffmann Barbara, Appenweier, executed, 1595 Schneider Barbara, Appenweier, executed, 1629 Schneider Catharina, Urloffen, executed, 1630 Schneider Ursula, Urloffen, confession, 1630 Widmar Barbara, Appenweier, confession, 1629 Byser Urban, Bottenau(?) Lurker Barbara, Griesheim Schwarz Barbara, Herztal Pfeiffer Barthlin, clemency Ketter Margarete, probably clemency ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== < http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/DEU/DEU-BAD-ORTENAU.html > offers all information on the Ortenau List; how to Subscribe, how to Unsubscribe, how to Browse and Search in the Ortenau List Archives. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

How common were these "witchcraft accusations"? Since it happened in Appenweier as well with Sauer women, I'm wondering if it took place all over Germany during that period of time. Someone I know with ancestors down around Furtwangen said one female ancestor was burned at the stake for having cows that produced "too rich" milk. Was this practice limited to women? If so, I wonder why - and why none of the males were able to stop it as it seemed to cover a 70-80 year period. Or were women just considered inferior beings back then? Carol -----Original Message----- From: Wendelin Irslinger [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 3:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Ortenau] witches It seems only Katharina Bischler didn't confess (she was 3 times tortured) and therefore maybe released. I believe all other were executed after torture and confession ("Urgicht"). If she as lucky she was executed (strangled or beheaded) before the burning. Wendelin ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Krussel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] witches > Does anyone know what happened to these women? At least one of them, > Barbara, widow of Benedikt Schilling, is my ancestor. > > John Krussel > > On Nov 1, 2004, at 2:29 PM, Wendelin Irslinger wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > a list of the accussed women because of witchcraft in Zell, Weierbach, > > Rammersweier, Fessenbach: > > > > Anna, wife of Claus Schütterlin, Zell, 1557 > > Anna Katharina, wife of Hans Kreß, Zell, 1557(?) > > Mrs. Rohrbach, Rammersweier, 1596 > > Widow of Mathias Preinig, Rammersweier, 1599 > > Katharina, wife of Melchior Fey, Fessenbach, 1603 > > Barbara, wife of Abraham Hartnagel, Rammersweier, 1627 > > Wife of Andreas Heiz, Rammersweier, 1627 > > Anna, wife of Mohl, Fessenbach, 1627 > > Ursula, stepdaughter of Georg Schreiner, Rammersweier, 1628 > > Magdalena, wife of Hans Ent, Rammersweier, 1628 > > Daughter of Hans Gries, Rammersweier, 1628 > > Maria, wife of Hans Grünberger, Rammersweier, 1628 > > Barbara, widow of Benedikt Schilling, Fessenbach, 1628 > > Wife of Philipp Vetter, Fessenbach, 1628 > > Katharina, daughter of Hans Bischler, Fessenbach, 1629 (without > > confession) > > Anna, wife of Philipp Vetter, Weierbach, 1630 > > Eva, wife of Lorenz Grütler, Zell, 1630 > > Christine, widow of Jakob Basler, Rammersweier, 1631 > > Widow of Christian Basler, 1631 > > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== Pre Napoleonic maps of B-W which include the lands of the Ortenau: < http://www.hoeckmann.de/deutschland/bwsued.htm > < http://www.pantel-web.de/bw_mirror/history/bwmaps/bw_316.jpg >. ============================== Expand your family tree. Search more than 200 million names in Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

It seems only Katharina Bischler didn't confess (she was 3 times tortured) and therefore maybe released. I believe all other were executed after torture and confession ("Urgicht"). If she as lucky she was executed (strangled or beheaded) before the burning. Wendelin ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Krussel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] witches > Does anyone know what happened to these women? At least one of them, > Barbara, widow of Benedikt Schilling, is my ancestor. > > John Krussel > > On Nov 1, 2004, at 2:29 PM, Wendelin Irslinger wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > a list of the accussed women because of witchcraft in Zell, Weierbach, > > Rammersweier, Fessenbach: > > > > Anna, wife of Claus Schütterlin, Zell, 1557 > > Anna Katharina, wife of Hans Kreß, Zell, 1557(?) > > Mrs. Rohrbach, Rammersweier, 1596 > > Widow of Mathias Preinig, Rammersweier, 1599 > > Katharina, wife of Melchior Fey, Fessenbach, 1603 > > Barbara, wife of Abraham Hartnagel, Rammersweier, 1627 > > Wife of Andreas Heiz, Rammersweier, 1627 > > Anna, wife of Mohl, Fessenbach, 1627 > > Ursula, stepdaughter of Georg Schreiner, Rammersweier, 1628 > > Magdalena, wife of Hans Ent, Rammersweier, 1628 > > Daughter of Hans Gries, Rammersweier, 1628 > > Maria, wife of Hans Grünberger, Rammersweier, 1628 > > Barbara, widow of Benedikt Schilling, Fessenbach, 1628 > > Wife of Philipp Vetter, Fessenbach, 1628 > > Katharina, daughter of Hans Bischler, Fessenbach, 1629 (without > > confession) > > Anna, wife of Philipp Vetter, Weierbach, 1630 > > Eva, wife of Lorenz Grütler, Zell, 1630 > > Christine, widow of Jakob Basler, Rammersweier, 1631 > > Widow of Christian Basler, 1631 > > > >

Hello Nick, books about the history of towns contains sometimes such information. I believe there are at least 3 of such history books for Hornberg. But it's always possible that nobody cared until now for this topic and the documents are waiting in the archive for a researcher. Perhaps it was not so bad in Hornberg (because it belonged to Württemberg) like Offenburg and Harmersbach valley (with some dozens of victims). Wendelin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick M. Gombash" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:11 AM Subject: Re: [Ortenau] witches > Where can I find a list of accused women for Gutach, Hornberg and the surrounding areas? That list is very interesting. > > Nick M. Gombash >

Does anyone know what happened to these women? At least one of them, Barbara, widow of Benedikt Schilling, is my ancestor. John Krussel On Nov 1, 2004, at 2:29 PM, Wendelin Irslinger wrote: > Hello, > > a list of the accussed women because of witchcraft in Zell, Weierbach, > Rammersweier, Fessenbach: > > Anna, wife of Claus Schütterlin, Zell, 1557 > Anna Katharina, wife of Hans Kreß, Zell, 1557(?) > Mrs. Rohrbach, Rammersweier, 1596 > Widow of Mathias Preinig, Rammersweier, 1599 > Katharina, wife of Melchior Fey, Fessenbach, 1603 > Barbara, wife of Abraham Hartnagel, Rammersweier, 1627 > Wife of Andreas Heiz, Rammersweier, 1627 > Anna, wife of Mohl, Fessenbach, 1627 > Ursula, stepdaughter of Georg Schreiner, Rammersweier, 1628 > Magdalena, wife of Hans Ent, Rammersweier, 1628 > Daughter of Hans Gries, Rammersweier, 1628 > Maria, wife of Hans Grünberger, Rammersweier, 1628 > Barbara, widow of Benedikt Schilling, Fessenbach, 1628 > Wife of Philipp Vetter, Fessenbach, 1628 > Katharina, daughter of Hans Bischler, Fessenbach, 1629 (without > confession) > Anna, wife of Philipp Vetter, Weierbach, 1630 > Eva, wife of Lorenz Grütler, Zell, 1630 > Christine, widow of Jakob Basler, Rammersweier, 1631 > Widow of Christian Basler, 1631 > > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > Pre Napoleonic maps of B-W which include the lands of the Ortenau: > < http://www.hoeckmann.de/deutschland/bwsued.htm > > < http://www.pantel-web.de/bw_mirror/history/bwmaps/bw_316.jpg >. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hello, a list of the accussed women because of witchcraft in Zell, Weierbach, Rammersweier, Fessenbach: Anna, wife of Claus Schütterlin, Zell, 1557 Anna Katharina, wife of Hans Kreß, Zell, 1557(?) Mrs. Rohrbach, Rammersweier, 1596 Widow of Mathias Preinig, Rammersweier, 1599 Katharina, wife of Melchior Fey, Fessenbach, 1603 Barbara, wife of Abraham Hartnagel, Rammersweier, 1627 Wife of Andreas Heiz, Rammersweier, 1627 Anna, wife of Mohl, Fessenbach, 1627 Ursula, stepdaughter of Georg Schreiner, Rammersweier, 1628 Magdalena, wife of Hans Ent, Rammersweier, 1628 Daughter of Hans Gries, Rammersweier, 1628 Maria, wife of Hans Grünberger, Rammersweier, 1628 Barbara, widow of Benedikt Schilling, Fessenbach, 1628 Wife of Philipp Vetter, Fessenbach, 1628 Katharina, daughter of Hans Bischler, Fessenbach, 1629 (without confession) Anna, wife of Philipp Vetter, Weierbach, 1630 Eva, wife of Lorenz Grütler, Zell, 1630 Christine, widow of Jakob Basler, Rammersweier, 1631 Widow of Christian Basler, 1631

Where can I find a list of accused women for Gutach, Hornberg and the surrounding areas? That list is very interesting. Nick M. Gombash Wendelin Irslinger <[email protected]> wrote: Hello, a list of the accussed women because of witchcraft in Zell, Weierbach, Rammersweier, Fessenbach: Anna, wife of Claus Sch�tterlin, Zell, 1557 Anna Katharina, wife of Hans Kre�, Zell, 1557(?) Mrs. Rohrbach, Rammersweier, 1596 Widow of Mathias Preinig, Rammersweier, 1599 Katharina, wife of Melchior Fey, Fessenbach, 1603 Barbara, wife of Abraham Hartnagel, Rammersweier, 1627 Wife of Andreas Heiz, Rammersweier, 1627 Anna, wife of Mohl, Fessenbach, 1627 Ursula, stepdaughter of Georg Schreiner, Rammersweier, 1628 Magdalena, wife of Hans Ent, Rammersweier, 1628 Daughter of Hans Gries, Rammersweier, 1628 Maria, wife of Hans Gr�nberger, Rammersweier, 1628 Barbara, widow of Benedikt Schilling, Fessenbach, 1628 Wife of Philipp Vetter, Fessenbach, 1628 Katharina, daughter of Hans Bischler, Fessenbach, 1629 (without confession) Anna, wife of Philipp Vetter, Weierbach, 1630 Eva, wife of Lorenz Gr�tler, Zell, 1630 Christine, widow of Jakob Basler, Rammersweier, 1631 Widow of Christian Basler, 1631 ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== Pre Napoleonic maps of B-W which include the lands of the Ortenau: < http://www.hoeckmann.de/deutschland/bwsued.htm > < http://www.pantel-web.de/bw_mirror/history/bwmaps/bw_316.jpg >. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com/a

Actually Carol I found it most interesting and was glad you sent it, I found some of my ancestors, although the spelling was not always accurate..I sent it on to other researchers and they were having a great time trying to figure out different spelling to search under. Anything free is always welcome to me. Thanks for sending us the link. Linda

Hi, I included under "Sources" the family names of Windschläg. It contains also an explanation of the meaning of these names. Wendelin

I'll too slow. That maintenance time was about two hours as Rootsweb states the "maintenance has been done"....The List Archives are up and running. Gee, this time the repair was fast as per < http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > djweber [email protected]

Rootsweb has identified that their "lists5" server is down indefinitely for maintenance. For now it appears that the only effect this down action may have for us would our inability to access any List Archive. djweber [email protected]

Yes, DJ, I'm reading your comments and I have to admit that I've seen a number of the southern Missouri German immigrants who had departed from LaHavre. Namely the ones I've found were from Bohlsbach and Appenweier, but I'm sure many others were from all over Ortenau. But my great, great grandfather from Windschlaeg left from Antwerp. I have yet to find ship records for my other German ancestors. About that information I sent in, I had not tested it prior to sending it as I already have access to immigration records. But since it was sent to me from another List, and sounded free, I figured why not pass it on. Sorry if it proved a disappointment. My experience on searching immigration records is that it depends on who was transcribing the records. I've seen a Petranella become a Nellie and a J. become a T., depending on which site I searched. Then when I search by soundex, I'll get flooded with the most unbelievably crazy spellings. Carol -----Original Message----- From: djweber [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 8:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Ortenau] A (very) limited "survey" on Ports of Embarkatioin After Carol Rogers forwarded to the List the information that the OliveTree web site had access to the Ancestry New York City Passenger Lists arrivals for the period 1851-1891, I tried a limited test for a number of different surnames which I had remembered from my attempts to read Church Registers of towns within the Ortenau using the surname and the keyword of Baden in the search. The "winning" port of embarkation hands down was LeHavre. I expected a high percentage of emigrants to have departed from LeHavre because LeHavre was a major port of commerce from Europe to the United States before and after the American War of the Rebellion but the number per page from that web site for Baden emigrants was surprising. For some of the pages of those emigrants no other port was identified. I did not do an actual count as my test was very limited but the expected Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Antwerp and Bremen listings were in a certain minority. Of course, for many of the earlier years within this time period Hamburg was not as yet an important seaport. The suggestion from this limited survey could be that our ancestors may have emigrated through the Port of LeHavre.....but my own ancestors from Baden may cancel any value to the thought that LeHavre was most usual port. My ancestors left through Rotterdam but not they nor any of the additional emigrants from the same Manifest are listed in that 1851-1891 New York database. It can mean that if the emigrant left the Ortenau, think LeHavre, at least, if the arrival location was New York City. And, it can mean NOTHING. djweber [email protected] ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== A list of Historic and Current towns of the Ortenau can be found at < http://ortenau-history.de.vu >. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

After Carol Rogers forwarded to the List the information that the OliveTree web site had access to the Ancestry New York City Passenger Lists arrivals for the period 1851-1891, I tried a limited test for a number of different surnames which I had remembered from my attempts to read Church Registers of towns within the Ortenau using the surname and the keyword of Baden in the search. The "winning" port of embarkation hands down was LeHavre. I expected a high percentage of emigrants to have departed from LeHavre because LeHavre was a major port of commerce from Europe to the United States before and after the American War of the Rebellion but the number per page from that web site for Baden emigrants was surprising. For some of the pages of those emigrants no other port was identified. I did not do an actual count as my test was very limited but the expected Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Antwerp and Bremen listings were in a certain minority. Of course, for many of the earlier years within this time period Hamburg was not as yet an important seaport. The suggestion from this limited survey could be that our ancestors may have emigrated through the Port of LeHavre.....but my own ancestors from Baden may cancel any value to the thought that LeHavre was most usual port. My ancestors left through Rotterdam but not they nor any of the additional emigrants from the same Manifest are listed in that 1851-1891 New York database. It can mean that if the emigrant left the Ortenau, think LeHavre, at least, if the arrival location was New York City. And, it can mean NOTHING. djweber [email protected]