Rose, I'll check and see if the Oberkirch or Ulm films are at my local FHC. Do you have the approximate dates of births, going by the ages listed on the 1871 Canada census? Carol -----Original Message----- From: djweber [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Ortenau] Hund/ Baudendistel Rose, I do not know the specific individual names but certainly I have seen both surnames in searching through the Church Registers of the towns of the Ortenau. However, I have also run into the Baudendistel surname north of Oberkirch in the Weingarten area, but I don't remember if I had been using the Church Registers of Oberkirch or of Ulm. I do not have any films for either Oberkirch or for Ulm at present but perhaps some other List member does have them and might locate a marriage of the two individuals in an index or in a family page. djweber [email protected] ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter & Rose Goutbeck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:53 PM Subject: [Ortenau] Hund/ Baudendistel > Anton Hund/Hundt and his wife is Catharina Badendistel/ Baudendistel > immigrated to Bruce County, was in Carrick Township, listed in 1871 > census, Ontario, Canada. Searching for where they come from. Maybe > Oberkirch or in that general area. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Rose Goutbeck in Alberta Canada > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== List your surnames at the Ortenau Search web site < http://ortenau.speedyspace.de/search/ >. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Good morning Rose, I am not saying your Hund and Baudendistel's came from my ancestor's hometowns but they are surnames that can be found in the Oberkirch area. My BUSAM's come from the Nussbach area and both your ancestor names can be found in the church books there. My BUSAM's married into both HUND & BAUDENDISTEL families in the 1800's. Microfilm for the Parish registers of Nußbach, Zusenhofen, Schlatten, Diebersbach, Maisenbühl, Herztal. Baptisms, marriages, deaths can be ordered and viewed at your local LDS Family History Center. Below you will find the film contents and numbers. Nußbach: Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1637-1669, 1691-1786 - FHL INTL Film [ 958811 ] Taufen 1786-1900 Heiraten 1738-1900 Tote 1786-1824 - FHL INTL Film [ 958812 ] Tote 1825-1900 Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1825-1900 (FILIALEN: Zusenhofen, Herztal, Maisenbühl) Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1864-1900 (Bottenau) - FHL INTL Film [ 958813 ] Good luck, Beverly Mack Zanon Researching NUSSBACH ZUSENHOFEN MAISENBUHL HERZTAL -----Original Message----- From: Peter & Rose Goutbeck [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Hund/ Baudendistel Anton Hund/Hundt and his wife is Catharina Badendistel/ Baudendistel immigrated to Bruce County, was in Carrick Township, listed in 1871 census, Ontario, Canada. Searching for where they come from. Maybe Oberkirch or in that general area. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Rose Goutbeck in Alberta Canada ______________________________

DJ, Thanks for the info. I checked your map before I sent the message. Now, that put into perspective as to where Ödsbach lies from Thiergarten. Tony. ----- Original Message ----- From: "djweber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 12:24 AM Subject: [Ortenau] Re: Location of Athsbach > Tony, > > Your Athsbach/Ödsbach was cut off the map I had sent you a couple of > months > ago. In the attempt to conserve space, I skipped Ödsbach. > > Look for the "B28" next to the group of black larger buildings at the east > end of Oberkirch. Ödsbach is perhaps two kilometers south of the "B28" > marking on road K5301 of the map. > > djweber > [email protected] > ------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:42 PM > Subject: Location of Athsbach > > >> List Members, >> >> Does anyone know the location of Athsbach in relation to Thiergarten, >> Baden >> during the early 1800's ? >> >> Tony Fetz >> >> > > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > < http://www.heavens-above.com/countries.asp > can be searched for > neighboring towns if you fear that one of your ancestors moved to or from > your searched town. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Beverly, In the last few days I found the birth record of my Franciska Panther born 16 Feb 1780 in the Oberkirch area. Do you know of these BUSAM's From her baptismal record, her last name was spelled as PANTHER; her parents were listed as Georg PANTHER and Theresia BUSAMIN, citizens residing in Grimmersbach. Her godfather was Melchoir HOFFERER of Hesselbach and her godmother was M. Magdalena, daughter of Anton BUSAM , a citizen of Hesselbach. Thank you, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverly Zanon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 7:32 AM Subject: [Ortenau] RE: Hund/ Baudendistel > Good morning Rose, > > I am not saying your Hund and Baudendistel's came from my ancestor's hometowns but they are surnames that can be found in the Oberkirch area. > > My BUSAM's come from the Nussbach area and both your ancestor names can be found in the church books there. My BUSAM's married into both HUND & BAUDENDISTEL families in the 1800's. > > Microfilm for the Parish registers of Nußbach, Zusenhofen, Schlatten, Diebersbach, Maisenbühl, Herztal. Baptisms, marriages, deaths can be ordered and viewed at your local LDS Family History Center. Below you will find the film contents and numbers. > > Nußbach: Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1637-1669, 1691-1786 - FHL INTL Film [ 958811 ] > Taufen 1786-1900 Heiraten 1738-1900 Tote 1786-1824 - FHL INTL Film [ 958812 ] > Tote 1825-1900 Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1825-1900 (FILIALEN: Zusenhofen, Herztal, Maisenbühl) Taufen, Heiraten, Tote 1864-1900 (Bottenau) - FHL INTL Film [ 958813 ] > > Good luck, > > Beverly Mack Zanon > Researching NUSSBACH ZUSENHOFEN MAISENBUHL HERZTAL > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter & Rose Goutbeck [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:54 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Hund/ Baudendistel > > > Anton Hund/Hundt and his wife is Catharina Badendistel/ Baudendistel > immigrated to Bruce County, was in Carrick Township, listed in 1871 > census, Ontario, Canada. Searching for where they come from. Maybe > Oberkirch or in that general area. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Rose Goutbeck in Alberta Canada > > ______________________________ > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > List your surnames at the Ortenau Search web site > < http://ortenau.speedyspace.de/search/ >. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Rose, I do not know the specific individual names but certainly I have seen both surnames in searching through the Church Registers of the towns of the Ortenau. However, I have also run into the Baudendistel surname north of Oberkirch in the Weingarten area, but I don't remember if I had been using the Church Registers of Oberkirch or of Ulm. I do not have any films for either Oberkirch or for Ulm at present but perhaps some other List member does have them and might locate a marriage of the two individuals in an index or in a family page. djweber [email protected] ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter & Rose Goutbeck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:53 PM Subject: [Ortenau] Hund/ Baudendistel > Anton Hund/Hundt and his wife is Catharina Badendistel/ Baudendistel > immigrated to Bruce County, was in Carrick Township, listed in 1871 > census, Ontario, Canada. Searching for where they come from. Maybe > Oberkirch or in that general area. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Rose Goutbeck in Alberta Canada >

dj, > Does anyone have access to a Familienbuch for Ichenheim which offers any > positive or negative information about its born-in-1843 Johann Jäger? if no other member can offer a lookup I can check the Familienbuch within the next weeks. - Wendelin ----- Original Message ----- From: "djweber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:26 AM Subject: [Ortenau] "Baydin" and (maybe) Ichenheim > That trip to Ohio allowed me some time to visit a good genealogical library. > I had a chance to spend some time on two far-from finished ancestral lines; > those lines which my mother-in-law brought to the family for my children and > where I fear her ghost is protecting the secret of her ancestry from me. > > One of the lines is the much too common potential search for a Johann Jäger > (born in 1843) while the other is for a certainly fictious surname with the > name being Martin Bichimer (born in 1840). > > However, the Jäger line finally gave me a clue; a clue of origin as "Baydin" > which sadly might be Baden or might be Bayern. Even this clue is still > hidden within the secret. > > Hoping that it might be Baden, I have ordered the proper LDS roll of film > for the Baden Emigration Index. In various other searchings, there is a > hint (from what I consider as a often flawed IGI) that a Johann Jäger was > born in 1843 in Ichenheim. > > I am looking for a Johann Jäger who emigrated about 1872 (at least before > 1875) with a wife of an unknown name (but then she might have died in > Germany before the emigration) however with children, Johann Ignaz born in > 1868 and twins Carry (probably Karolina) and Lena (Magdalena) born in 1870. > > Does anyone have access to a Familienbuch for Ichenheim which offers any > positive or negative information about its born-in-1843 Johann Jäger? > > djweber > [email protected]

Hi, time to research my Hartmann ancestors from Rammersweier, maybe another Rammersweier researcher has information about them: Magdalena Hartmann from Rammersweier married Anton Pfeffer in Niederschopfheim in 1737. Magdalena was daughter of Lorenz Hartmann who was a court member ("Zwölfer"). - Wendelin

Tony, > Wendelin, it actually says Athsbach in Böchle. At least that is the way it > was transcribed and translated. > It may have been Öthsbach, meaning Ödsbach, but it was spelled with an A. I have another opinion: I believe it says "oethsbach in Löchle" (with "oe"). Löchle is a hamlet or farm of Ödsbach. - Wendelin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <[email protected]> To: "Wendelin Irslinger" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 12:49 AM Subject: Re: Location of Athsbach > Wendelin, it actually says Athsbach in Böchle. At least that is the way it > was transcribed and translated. > It may have been Öthsbach, meaning Ödsbach, but it was spelled with an A. > > Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendelin Irslinger" <[email protected]> > To: "Tony" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 6:02 PM > Subject: Re: Location of Athsbach > > > > Tony, > > > > I assume the record says "Öthsbach" which means Ödsbach. > > > > - Wendelin > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tony" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:42 PM > > Subject: Location of Athsbach > > > > > >> List Members, > >> > >> Does anyone know the location of Athsbach in relation to Thiergarten, > >> Baden > >> during the early 1800's ? > >> > >> Tony Fetz > >> > > > > >

Lila, Wendelin, Maurine..... Lila, thanks for trying for me; you have found part of my problem. Too many Johann Jäger/Jaeger in this world. 28 at the Castle Garden site, 3 more there as Jager, 38 in the Auswanderer List and dozens more that I have run across in other searches. Even the early Cleveland, Ohio City Directories for the time just after his emigration have multiple listings for the name. The story of the U.S. Church records having burned up was confirmed to me years ago by a cousin who remembered being one of the by-standers the night of the fire watching the wooden Rectory become ashes. I started searching the Jaeger family years ago when my mother-in-law was still living. She knew less about her family than I have learned. Adding to the confusion, "Baydin"? Wendelin, don't worry about me. The Ichenheim gamble is just that, a gamble. I expect the LDS roll of film which covers the surnames Harlacher to Maile for the needed time period. My List message was a part of that gamble to see if anyone currently had the Ichenheim Familienbuch in an attempt to inflate or deflate my genealogical anxiety. Don't spend your time for me on this one. Hopefully, I will have some sort of answer as a result of the film. Maurine, the German-born females I know attached to Johann's families would be twin daughters a mere two years old at the time of emigration. As I told Wendelin, thanks but hopefully the Baden Emigration Index film will give me an answer. And, Maurine, if you are pleased with the use of the Castle Garden site < http://www.castlegarden.org > keep checking back into the site. I have read but I can not confirm (I bet Beverly can deny or confirm) that only about one million emigrants have been listed so far at the site and another two million are still to be listed; a work in process. djweber [email protected]

Anton Hund/Hundt and his wife is Catharina Badendistel/ Baudendistel immigrated to Bruce County, was in Carrick Township, listed in 1871 census, Ontario, Canada. Searching for where they come from. Maybe Oberkirch or in that general area. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Rose Goutbeck in Alberta Canada

Lila, Thank you so very much for advising of this site! Went there and found bunches of data on my German migrants. Thanks again. Maurine

DJ, I do have certain pages from the kinship book for Ichenheim but not a page for the Jäger family. If you would like the entries for female Jägers by all means let me know and I will send to you. For instance there is Maria Ursula Jäger who married Johann Michael Fäßler and she died 29.11.1744. Maurine ----- Original Message ----- From: "djweber" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:26 PM Subject: [Ortenau] "Baydin" and (maybe) Ichenheim > That trip to Ohio allowed me some time to visit a good genealogical library. > I had a chance to spend some time on two far-from finished ancestral lines; > those lines which my mother-in-law brought to the family for my children and > where I fear her ghost is protecting the secret of her ancestry from me. > > One of the lines is the much too common potential search for a Johann Jäger > (born in 1843) while the other is for a certainly fictious surname with the > name being Martin Bichimer (born in 1840). > > However, the Jäger line finally gave me a clue; a clue of origin as "Baydin" > which sadly might be Baden or might be Bayern. Even this clue is still > hidden within the secret. > > Hoping that it might be Baden, I have ordered the proper LDS roll of film > for the Baden Emigration Index. In various other searchings, there is a > hint (from what I consider as a often flawed IGI) that a Johann Jäger was > born in 1843 in Ichenheim. > > I am looking for a Johann Jäger who emigrated about 1872 (at least before > 1875) with a wife of an unknown name (but then she might have died in > Germany before the emigration) however with children, Johann Ignaz born in > 1868 and twins Carry (probably Karolina) and Lena (Magdalena) born in 1870. > > Does anyone have access to a Familienbuch for Ichenheim which offers any > positive or negative information about its born-in-1843 Johann Jäger? > > djweber > [email protected] > > > > > ==== DEU-BAD-ORTENAU Mailing List ==== > List your surnames at the Ortenau Search web site > < http://ortenau.speedyspace.de/search/ >. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Hi, a website of possible interest is the webpage of "Der Kanadier": http://www.derkanadier.de/ with some pictures (and movies) especially from the Lahr area. - Wendelin

Have you tried this website for Castle Garden? http://www.castlegarden.org I typed in Johann Jaeger for the years 1870-1875 and got 27 possibilities. Lila djweber wrote: > One of the lines is the much too common potential search for a Johann > Jäger (born in 1843) while the other is for a certainly fictious surname > with the name being Martin Bichimer (born in 1840). > > However, the Jäger line finally gave me a clue; a clue of origin as > "Baydin" which sadly might be Baden or might be Bayern. Even this clue > is still hidden within the secret. > > Hoping that it might be Baden, I have ordered the proper LDS roll of > film for the Baden Emigration Index. In various other searchings, there > is a hint (from what I consider as a often flawed IGI) that a Johann > Jäger was born in 1843 in Ichenheim. > > I am looking for a Johann Jäger who emigrated about 1872 (at least > before 1875) with a wife of an unknown name (but then she might have > died in Germany before the emigration) however with children, Johann > Ignaz born in 1868 and twins Carry (probably Karolina) and Lena > (Magdalena) born in 1870. > > Does anyone have access to a Familienbuch for Ichenheim which offers any > positive or negative information about its born-in-1843 Johann Jäger? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.8/71 - Release Date: 8/12/05

Tony, Your Athsbach/Ödsbach was cut off the map I had sent you a couple of months ago. In the attempt to conserve space, I skipped Ödsbach. Look for the "B28" next to the group of black larger buildings at the east end of Oberkirch. Ödsbach is perhaps two kilometers south of the "B28" marking on road K5301 of the map. djweber [email protected] ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: Location of Athsbach > List Members, > > Does anyone know the location of Athsbach in relation to Thiergarten, > Baden > during the early 1800's ? > > Tony Fetz > >

Tony, Start with the thought that a Priest or a Minister didn't care why a person had died. His care was that the person was in the process of death through sickness, then his ministerial duties and followed by the eventual burial. His job was the spiritual care of the live body and the religious handling of the dead body. Agreed from roughly 1810 on he may have been the civil recorder of information however the change was an almost non-noticeable change of duties. He recorded the baptisms, the marriages and the burials. He also probably kept records for his Church of the Confirmations. The cause of the death was of lessen value than the idea that the death had occured with the following burial. However, his method of recording also depended on the particular form used for the records of that Church. Some death forms actually had a column for insertion of the cause of death. This was common in certain areas and in certain year time periods. If the column was not there, the illness cause of death probably was not indicated. As to children, youth and death.....consider the medical abilities of the time, consider the number of children in any family, consider the ability of feeding all the children, consider the various illnesses which the medical profession of the time could not handle. Leeches were still being used to remove bad blood to cure the illness? Food was not necessarily healthy. Germs were rampant. Theodor Schwann (in Germany) and Louis Pasteur (in France) did not reach their position in food protection until the middle to late 1800s. Living was a gamble. However, I know of no identified specific epidemic for your time period of the 1820s. In 1831 a Cholera epidemic did spread from Russia into Germany just as the Irish brought Cholera in 1832 to North America. A child living to adulthood might have been considered as a wonderful gift to the family. Mortality rates were high. Politically, also, the 1820s was a comparable quiet time of history in Baden although the Carlsbad decrees did result in some high-level upheavals. djweber [email protected] ------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: [Ortenau] Cause of death > List Members, > > I have been keeping myself busy going through about 10 films from LDS from > Church Records of Oberkirch, Baden. I have copied many and had them > transcribed and translated by German Historical Research Society Inc. > These people do a fantastic job and I have learned much, much more about > my German heritage than I have in the past 15 years. > Now, I have another question for the list membership. I have noticed among > the many death documents recorded by the church that never was a reason > for death given or recorded. Did they just not record the cause of death > or is there other records that would contain this information. The reason > I ask this question poses another question. During the early 1800's the > family had children born in 1812, 1814, 1815, 1818, 1819, 1821. The first > three children immigrated to America with the father and mother. The last > three children (boys) died between 1822 and 1828. All less than 10 years > old. Was there some sort of disease within the country at that time that > would have caused a higher than usual mortality rate among the young > children? Could war have been a reason for death? > I would like to hear from you as to your thought on this matter. > > Regards, Tony Fetz

That trip to Ohio allowed me some time to visit a good genealogical library. I had a chance to spend some time on two far-from finished ancestral lines; those lines which my mother-in-law brought to the family for my children and where I fear her ghost is protecting the secret of her ancestry from me. One of the lines is the much too common potential search for a Johann Jäger (born in 1843) while the other is for a certainly fictious surname with the name being Martin Bichimer (born in 1840). However, the Jäger line finally gave me a clue; a clue of origin as "Baydin" which sadly might be Baden or might be Bayern. Even this clue is still hidden within the secret. Hoping that it might be Baden, I have ordered the proper LDS roll of film for the Baden Emigration Index. In various other searchings, there is a hint (from what I consider as a often flawed IGI) that a Johann Jäger was born in 1843 in Ichenheim. I am looking for a Johann Jäger who emigrated about 1872 (at least before 1875) with a wife of an unknown name (but then she might have died in Germany before the emigration) however with children, Johann Ignaz born in 1868 and twins Carry (probably Karolina) and Lena (Magdalena) born in 1870. Does anyone have access to a Familienbuch for Ichenheim which offers any positive or negative information about its born-in-1843 Johann Jäger? djweber [email protected]

Another of those back-logged side messages mentioned the question of writing to a German Church asking for ancestral information. I would not deny that source as a possibility but there are negative potentials here and perhaps the wanted information could be and would be found in a different manner. I admit I have written to German Churches hoping for information. However, that was many years ago before the growth in searching our genealogical needs. Back then a letter to a Church was a rare act but today there may be many such letters. There are tales of such letters, unopened, gathering dust in a Minister or Priest's office. Such a letter may work today but the percentages are not large. Few churches today have sufficient personnel to handle such research. Few Ministers and Priests today have the ability to read the old German script. Few Ministers, Priests and church employees have the time to do such work. Some Churches no longer have those old records at their location. Possible alternatives include: Find a German local professional or semi-professional genealogist to help you. A cost would exist for the hiring of the individual with the costs varying depending on the extent of the search. Often the less prominent professional may be a better choice. Contact the city Town Hall by snail-mail or e-mail to determine if there might be a specific individual in town who handles such questions, has the right to search in the old Church Records and can read German script. A cost here may exist but it might be a lower rate as often the individual does this type of work as a hobby. If the surname involved is an uncommon surname, contacting by letter current individuals with that surname in the specific town might and has caused Minister/Priest action. In one case several individuals who received such letters carried those letters to the Minister and because of their position within the Church were able to have a church assistant supply the desired information with the only cost being the request for a donation to the Church....after the assistant had mailed the hoped for information. Keep in mind also that none of these thoughts may work as stated above the old Church Records may no longer be maintained at the specific church but have been forwarded to a central location. A professional, a semi-professional and the town officials might know this but an unanswered letter to the Church, itself, will never tell us that some other location in some other town might be the location for our wanted answer. I am not saying that a letter should never be sent to a Church, to a Minister or to a Priest but the chances of the request ever being answered is not high. Any money sent in advance may be a loss to the writer and never seen by the Priest or Minister. When such a letter is mailed it may be better to send minimum funds to cover return mail with some additional bonus funds and to promise payment upon your receipt. Other items to remember is that the Euro is now valued higher than the U.S. Dollar. This means that U. S. Dollars are of less value and more are needed to cover the German cost. Also, the German Post Office has specific rules for International Reply Coupons which allow only one Coupon to be used at a time when an international piece of mail is processed. This suggests that International Reply Coupons are not a sufficient choice for any sort of payment. However, never allow me to suggest something which is not proper in your mind. Writing to a Church, to a Minister or to a Priest may be the only way of obtaining your desired information. I merely want to identify that there are other methods which might work. djweber [email protected]

Some weeks ago I had offered the site of < http://www.germany-info.org/relaunch/culture/new/cul_ballinstadt_1_2005.html > which described a future Hamburg Museum, the "BallinStadt". That information had been offered online by the German Information Center, an agency of the German Embassy in Washington, D.C. through a weekly newsletter entitled, "This Week in Germany". A more recent of these weekly newsletters included additional sites which may be of interest to we who are searching our Germanic ancestors. < http://www.germany-info.org/relaunch/info/publications/week/2005/050520/misc2.html > offers an article, "1800s emigration era comes alive in documentary". An article "Celebrating German Heritage in America Today" is at < http://www.germany-info.org/relaunch/culture/ger_americans/ger_americans.html >. < http://www.dah-bremerhaven.de/english/hauptseite.html > covers the German Emigration Center Bremerhaven. Depending on your browser, in order to see this entire page and its links, you may need to right click your mouse and then click on "Show All". I should add that if any of you wish to subscribe to that weekly newsletter (and it includes much more than the links which I have included for this List), the e-mail address for a subscription is: < [email protected] > with the home page of the German Information Center at < http://www.germany-info.org/relaunch/info/missions/gic.html >. djweber [email protected]

As a reminder, the current web addresses for the Companion Pages are: < http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/ > < http://ortenau.genealogy-bw.de/search/ >. djweber [email protected]