Hi Nivaldo I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich about this time. Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. Regards Bairbre Sent from my iPad

Hi - My 4th gr grandmother was Dorothy Herod who died 1801 in Duffield. She married into my Haynes family in 1779 in Duffield so I would assume she was born around 1759. One of the witnesses was a Sarah Herod. But like you, I have been unable to find any other records of the Herod family. On Ancestry there is another Dorothy Herod who married Thomas Wist in 1732 in Scropton. Hope this helps! Anne -----Original Message----- From: Bairbre Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2018 9:27 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Samuel Herod Sawley Hi Nivaldo I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich about this time. Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. Regards Bairbre Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I do get called some weird names ;-) No the fathers would not be mentioned in the PRs for a marriage in that period, and not usually pre July 1837 The only hope would be if it was by licence and one or other father was mentioned But sadly yours is by banns It reads Samuel HEROD of this parish and Charlotte MELAND of this parish were married in this church by banns this 3rd day of November in the year one thousand seven hundred and eighty eight by me Thos HUMPHRIES This marriage was solemnized between us (both signed the register) In the presence of John FAWCETT? & Thos ALLEN There is a baptism of a Charlotte HEROD dau of Samuel & Charlotte at Sawley born Jan 2nd 1803 A Charlotte HEROD was buried 1st Aug 1804 at Sawley Also in 1804 a Sophia HEROD was buried 28th MArch Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/06/2018 14:27, Bairbre wrote: > Hi Nivaldo > I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. > My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich about this time. > Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. > If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. > Regards > Bairbre

A few more for you All at Sawley Sophia bap 26th Feb 1792 Dorothy bap 13th Apr 1794 Samson bap 13th dec 1796 Wm (William) bap 16th Jun 1799 All above parents are Samuel & Charlotte Joseph buried 11th Apr 1807 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/06/2018 14:27, Bairbre wrote: > Hi Nivaldo > I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. > My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich about this time. > Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. > If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. > Regards > Bairbre

A bit more Burials at Sawley Samuel born 1754 6th Nov 1827 Joseph born 1790 8th Jan 1818 Samuel born 1797 5th Jan 1854 Elizabeth born 1833 5th May 1833 Samuel born 1834 27th July 1834 Ann born 1836 19th Mar 1839 William born 1839 13th Feb 1839 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/06/2018 14:27, Bairbre wrote: > Hi Nivaldo > I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. > My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich about this time. > Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. > If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. > Regards > Bairbre

Baptisms of children to William & Ann at Sawley Joseph 28th Mar 1824 Mary 12th Mar 1826 Charlotte 20th Jun 1830 Anne 14th Aug 1835 A William HEROD married an Ann FRANCIS at Sawley by banns 1st Sep 1823 (witnesses Samuel TANYER? & Charlotte HEROD) A Charlotte HEROD married a Joseph HARRIMAN at Sawley by licence 25th Oct 1824 All the aforementioned are from the PRs on Ancestry Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 02/06/2018 14:27, Bairbre wrote: > Hi Nivaldo > I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. > My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich about this time. > Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. > If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. > Regards > Bairbre

My apologies Nivard. I didn’t mean any insult. Didn’t check the auto correct on the iPad. Sorry. Bairbre. Sent from my iPad > On 2 Jun 2018, at 15:10, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Baptisms of children to William & Ann at Sawley > > Joseph 28th Mar 1824 > > Mary 12th Mar 1826 > > Charlotte 20th Jun 1830 > > Anne 14th Aug 1835 > > A William HEROD married an Ann FRANCIS at Sawley by banns 1st Sep 1823 > (witnesses Samuel TANYER? & Charlotte HEROD) > > A Charlotte HEROD married a Joseph HARRIMAN at Sawley by licence 25th Oct 1824 > > All the aforementioned are from the PRs on Ancestry > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 02/06/2018 14:27, Bairbre wrote: >> Hi Nivaldo >> I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. >> My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich about this time. >> Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. >> If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. >> Regards >> Bairbre > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks for the information Nivard I have the descendants of William and Ann etc up to present day but can’t seem to get back any further. Bairbre. Sent from my iPad > On 2 Jun 2018, at 15:10, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Baptisms of children to William & Ann at Sawley > > Joseph 28th Mar 1824 > > Mary 12th Mar 1826 > > Charlotte 20th Jun 1830 > > Anne 14th Aug 1835 > > A William HEROD married an Ann FRANCIS at Sawley by banns 1st Sep 1823 > (witnesses Samuel TANYER? & Charlotte HEROD) > > A Charlotte HEROD married a Joseph HARRIMAN at Sawley by licence 25th Oct 1824 > > All the aforementioned are from the PRs on Ancestry > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 02/06/2018 14:27, Bairbre wrote: >> Hi Nivaldo >> I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. >> My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich about this time. >> Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. >> If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. >> Regards >> Bairbre > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks Anne. Interestingly Samuel named one of his daughters Dorothy. Bairbre. Sent from my iPad > On 2 Jun 2018, at 15:44, Bairbre <bairbre@duffieldhouse.co.uk> wrote: > > Thanks for the information Nivard > I have the descendants of William and Ann etc up to present day but can’t seem to get back any further. > Bairbre. > Sent from my iPad > >> On 2 Jun 2018, at 15:10, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Baptisms of children to William & Ann at Sawley >> >> Joseph 28th Mar 1824 >> >> Mary 12th Mar 1826 >> >> Charlotte 20th Jun 1830 >> >> Anne 14th Aug 1835 >> >> A William HEROD married an Ann FRANCIS at Sawley by banns 1st Sep 1823 >> (witnesses Samuel TANYER? & Charlotte HEROD) >> >> A Charlotte HEROD married a Joseph HARRIMAN at Sawley by licence 25th Oct 1824 >> >> All the aforementioned are from the PRs on Ancestry >> >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >>> On 02/06/2018 14:27, Bairbre wrote: >>> Hi Nivaldo >>> I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. >>> My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich about this time. >>> Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. >>> If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. >>> Regards >>> Bairbre >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.root

I'm wondering if Samuel is Dorothy's brother - years match. Further research required!! -----Original Message----- From: Bairbre Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2018 11:14 AM To: Derbyshire genealogy Subject: [DBY]Re: ****SPAM:7.1**** Re: Samuel Herod Sawley Thanks Anne. Interestingly Samuel named one of his daughters Dorothy. Bairbre. Sent from my iPad > On 2 Jun 2018, at 15:44, Bairbre <bairbre@duffieldhouse.co.uk> wrote: > > Thanks for the information Nivard > I have the descendants of William and Ann etc up to present day but can’t > seem to get back any further. > Bairbre. > Sent from my iPad > >> On 2 Jun 2018, at 15:10, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Baptisms of children to William & Ann at Sawley >> >> Joseph 28th Mar 1824 >> >> Mary 12th Mar 1826 >> >> Charlotte 20th Jun 1830 >> >> Anne 14th Aug 1835 >> >> A William HEROD married an Ann FRANCIS at Sawley by banns 1st Sep 1823 >> (witnesses Samuel TANYER? & Charlotte HEROD) >> >> A Charlotte HEROD married a Joseph HARRIMAN at Sawley by licence 25th Oct >> 1824 >> >> All the aforementioned are from the PRs on Ancestry >> >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >>> On 02/06/2018 14:27, Bairbre wrote: >>> Hi Nivaldo >>> I’m one of the silent members who finds all messages very interesting. >>> My brick wall is Samuel Herod. He is in the Bishop’s Transcript ( found >>> in Lichfield’s record office) married to Charlotte Meland on 3/11/1788 >>> at All Saints Church in Sawley. Both are from said parish yet there is >>> no mention of either family in the transcripts going backwards or >>> forwards. Samuel’s death is recorded as 6/11/1827 and Charlotte’s as >>> 01/08/1804. Samuel’s birth year could be 1754 but without his father’s >>> name I’m stumped. I believe that there wereHerrods /Herods in Crich >>> about this time. >>> Would the parish register of the time have listed their fathers’ names? >>> I know that Samuel worked on the canal boats. >>> If anyone can help I’d appreciate it. >>> Regards >>> Bairbre >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Archives: >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb >> community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.root _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community