Kathy, have you looked at the new Margaret Higgins database of Catholics 1607-1840? There are Torrs on that, but possibly information you already have. May I add that my Catholic ancestor born in Lancashire about 1693 (no extant baptism) was a Catholic called Abraham Broadley. He was named after his Protestant grandfather. Abraham's father was an Anglican and all Abraham's siblings had Anglican baptisms except for the youngest son, John, who had no baptism recorded and was a Presbyterian/Baptist, for some time as an adult. Abraham worked for the local big house, Dunkenhalgh.  After their father's death, John and family joined his older brother in his house and was also employed by Dunkenhalgh. The Dunkenhalgh people supported their tenants who were nonconformist, but not Catholic, just as they supported their Catholic tenants. So you may find a complicated picture within one family and in the wider society. Marie in Cheshire

Hi Marie, Thanks for the info you posted on the Catholic database, no, I didn't know about it but it sounds promising - what is the information it gives please? i.e. parents, place names, etc. None of my people appear to have a baptism record (period 1600 - 1800) just marriage records, which of course had to take place in an Anglican Church by Law. So being under this impression, I've never looked. However, I have just been trying to by googling the 'Margaret Higgins database of Catholics 1607-1840' you said, but couldn't find a way in to find a list of names. At the moment I am not subscribed to Ancestry or FMP and am not on Facebook. Might you be able to have a look for me as to whether between 1660-1800 there are any Torr/Torres named Robert, Thomas, John, Godfrey, Richard, Benjamin, Mary, Elizabeth, Ann please? If names are noted with places they would be Eyam, Hathersage, Tideswell, Castleton. I can see what you mean about the complications encountered in your own family and, as Celia pointed out, that there was lots of dissent within families over baptisms. you've managed to get some good, interesting stuff there though. I understand if you can't do the look up for me - these things take precious time, I know and I appreciate your bringing it to my notice anyway. Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPad On 1 Jun 2018, at 20:55, Marie ball <marieballtov@gmail.com> wrote: Kathy, have you looked at the new Margaret Higgins database of Catholics 1607-1840? There are Torrs on that, but possibly information you already have.