Thank you so much for a great background sketch of the times they lived in. For me it has always been a case of wanting to know, and so feel, how they in turn felt and what they had to contend with. The historical aspect of any research, anywhere, makes such a difference doesn't it and is so helpful as well as being fascinating . Such a surprise to know that Torr/Torre can be a Scottish name, it has opened up a good few hours of new research time ahead which I am looking forward to. How lucky we are on this List to have the hard earned knowledge of others given to us - I am sure most other Listers would agree. Thanks again Celia, Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPad