......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Nivard, I'm one of the quiet ones while writing my novel based on great-granny Isabella CLAVERING's life. Only one Derbyshire location features in that, ie. Dronfield in the period 1873-1883 when Wilson-Cammell steelworks were located there. I would very much like to correspond with anyone who knows anything of Dronfield's history and families during those ten years, particularly to learn more about steel-working, schools, pubs, football, leisure activities and the families who moved when Wilson-Cammell did (lock, stock and furnace) to Workington in Cumberland, in 1883. Local names I'm researching in that area: DANFORTH; REANEY, PRICE and of course RENSHAW. Celia Renshaw in Sheffield UK Blog: www.morgansite.wordpress.com On 30 May 2018 at 11:04, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > ......still breathing ;-) > > We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know > it would you > > Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) > > Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? > > Brick walls to knock down ? > > Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? > > Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Well Nivard I will try again, although I never had results before. I am researching my BOWEN side and all in Derby. My father was Kenneth George Bowen (1916-1978) and my mother was Jean Mary Hilton (1921-1999), grandparents were George Thomas Bowen(1888-1955), Ethel May(1891-1959), Frank Hilton(1884-1925), Hilda Annie Allsop(1891-1965) Does anyone have any links to any of these people ? I have been able to trace the Allsop end back to 1151 where Hugh de Alsop, a younger son of Gamellus, went with Richard I on the Third Crusade (1189-91) to the Holy Land. He was captain of a company under the command of Sir Ralph de Lyleburne, who was colonel of four companies. The king recognized Hugh's bravery and competence by bestowing upon him the Order of Knightbood, and as a further honor, permitting him to select his own personal design to wear on the front of his shield. The "Achievement of Arms" as these identifying symbols were later known, was to have six falcon's heads on the shield. Hugh married the niece of Sir Ralph (by his sister), the daughter of Rober de Farington, and received lands in Derbyshire to live as a returning hero Great info but the Bowen side is somewhat of a dead end. Steve Bowen -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:ovington.one@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 6:05 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Anyone............. ......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Steve For what its worth, I suspect when others read that you have traced back to 1151 they assume you have checked all those resources open to us And asking if others are connected it very often a fruitless exercise as the chances of a connection in 590 subscribers, some of whom may not be reading the posts is small Is that as far back as you have the BOWEN line? Is that where you are stuck? If not where are you stuck Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 12:02, Steve Bowen wrote: > Well Nivard I will try again, although I never had results before. > > I am researching my BOWEN side and all in Derby. My father was Kenneth > George Bowen (1916-1978) and my mother was Jean Mary Hilton (1921-1999), > grandparents were George Thomas Bowen(1888-1955), Ethel May(1891-1959), > Frank Hilton(1884-1925), Hilda Annie Allsop(1891-1965) > > Does anyone have any links to any of these people ? >

Main research interests in Derbyshire BARBER - Chapel en le Frith parish and Glossop parish HOLLINGWORTH - Glossop parish HYDE - Glossop parish EDWARDS - originally from Yorkshire but from 1890 at least at Chapel Milton, Glossop p. FIDLER - Derbyshire - Cheshire border FORD - Chinley, Glossop parish Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk

Hi Nivard Still here, if anyone could advise where I could locate information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL who was in the RAMC in WW1. I have been in contact with the Buxton advertiser and nothing is located there. He was discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about the war Any other suggestions may help Jen (NSW) > On 30 May 2018, at 8:04 pm, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > > ......still breathing ;-) > > We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you > > Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) > > Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? > > Brick walls to knock down ? > > Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? > > Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Re Jennifer's query ... '... if anyone could advise where I could locate information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL who was in the RAMC in WW1. He was discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private. I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about the war. Any other suggestions may help Jen (NSW)' Was this A/Cpl 64919 ? He won the Victory and British War Medals, and was 'Reverted to private on change of theatre of war 22.1.1919'. Apart from his medal card and the medal roll there is nothing obvious. Unfortunately there is no indication of which unit or hospital he might have been attached to. As he survived, there is no additional unit info that might have been on the CWGC site. Probably nothing here that you don't already know. Good hunting John Frearson

Hi John Yes this is the correct Charles Haswell Will try Nivards suggestion re checking service numbers thanks regards Jen NSW > On 30 May 2018, at 10:11 pm, John Frearson via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Re Jennifer's query ... '... if anyone could advise where I could locate information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL who was in the RAMC in WW1. He was discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private. I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about the war. Any other suggestions may help Jen (NSW)' > > Was this A/Cpl 64919 ? He won the Victory and British War Medals, and was 'Reverted to private on change of theatre of war 22.1.1919'. > > Apart from his medal card and the medal roll there is nothing obvious. > > Unfortunately there is no indication of which unit or hospital he might have been attached to. > > As he survived, there is no additional unit info that might have been on the CWGC site. > > Probably nothing here that you don't already know. > > Good hunting > > John Frearson > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Jennifer I can only repeat what John has also found, medal card & medal roll As you are no doubt aware roughly two thirds of service records were lost in WW2, his appear to have been lost as most of my lots were The downgrading comment is a little harsh IMHO It means he was required as an acting corporal where he was serving, then on change of theatre of war there was not a need for so many NCOs and he reverted to private Forgive me if its been suggested already, but one ploy that can pay dividends is to search out those in the same regiment with a service number close to yours, it does not mean they served together but there may be clues from where they served and perhaps one can be found with a surviving service record Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 12:25, Jennifer wrote: > Hi Nivard > Still here, if anyone could advise where I could locate > information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL > who was in the RAMC in WW1. I have been in contact with > the Buxton advertiser and nothing is located there. He was > discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private > I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about > the war > Any other suggestions may help > > Jen (NSW)

Thanks Nivard Will check out the service numbers I think this will be my only option as most other records seen to be checked IMHO also the down grading was quite harsh Jen (NSW) > On 30 May 2018, at 10:34 pm, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Jennifer > > I can only repeat what John has also found, medal card & medal roll > > As you are no doubt aware roughly two thirds of service records were lost in WW2, his appear to have been lost as most of my lots were > > The downgrading comment is a little harsh IMHO > > It means he was required as an acting corporal where he was serving, then on change of theatre of war there was not a need for so many NCOs and he reverted to private > > Forgive me if its been suggested already, but one ploy that can pay dividends is to search out those in the same regiment with a service number close to yours, it does not mean they served together but there may be clues from where they served and perhaps one can be found with a surviving service record > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 30/05/2018 12:25, Jennifer wrote: >> Hi Nivard >> Still here, if anyone could advise where I could locate >> information for my Grandfather CHARLES HASWELL >> who was in the RAMC in WW1. I have been in contact with >> the Buxton advertiser and nothing is located there. He was >> discharged as Acting Corporal however this was then down graded to Private >> I would love to find where he was in WW1. As normal he never spoke about >> the war >> Any other suggestions may help >> Jen (NSW) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Nivard I'm still around and interested in these DBY families:- POUNTAIN, SALISBURY, MOORCROFT, (Boylestone) STEVENS, ANTILL, DALBY, BENTLEY, STANFIELD, CADE, (Ockbrook and Spondon) to name but a few. Any fellow researchers out there? Kind regards Joy ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: 30 May 2018 11:04 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Anyone............. ......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

This was written at the beginning of the 1700's in a letter to Archibald Bartram: my father and uncle died, so the best account I could have "was from my grandmother, who lived some years after. She told me that my great grandfather's name was Richard Bartram. He lived in Derbyshire, and his father before him. Richard Bar- tram had one son, called John, who married my grandmother, in Derby. They settled in the town of Ashburn, in the Peak, where they lived, and had three sons and one daughter. From thence they removed to Pennsylvania, before there was one house in Philadelphia. I know they were Quakers and came with Penn.I don,t know their meeting or anything else about the Grandmothers maiden name. I really am interested in working this family back to England as far as I can take it as this is a brick wall with Richard and Richard and knowing that John settled in Ashburn after he married but from where. On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > ......still breathing ;-) > > We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know > it would you > > Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) > > Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? > > Brick walls to knock down ? > > Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? > > Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > n@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Maria, I have a whole bundle of references to Derbys Quaker BARTRAMs picked up while researching their co-settler in PA (Chester County), George WILCOCKSON from Biggin by Hulland. I'll contact you offlist so I can tell you what sources and details I hold - I guess it's possible you already have all of them. For anyone researching the earliest Derbyshire Quakers, the most comprehensive secondary source I found was "Derbyshire Quakers 1650-1761" by Helen Forde, PhD Thesis (1977) which is available online. For those Quakers who settled in Chester County, the History of Chester County, Pennsylvania by J Smith Futhey & Gilbert Cope (1881) is also available online. If there's trouble finding them online, contact me offlist and I can help. Besse's Sufferings is always a useful source too, again available online or in archives & reference libraries. An extensive Quaker archive that includes the main original documents for the Derbyshire Quakers from the earliest dates is held at Nottinghamshire Archives. Some records for Derbyshire Quakers are also in the Yorkshire Quaker archives held at the Brotherton Library in Leeds. Other relevant items have found their way into Derbys RO, Chesterfield Library and Staffordshire Archives. An exhibition of how the various sources relevant to early Quakers can be used to find British roots for migrants to the USA is my WILCOCKSON case study, available at the Chesterfield & District FHS website (or send a request to me by email). Hope this helps you Maria. Regards, Celia Renshaw in Sheffield UK Blog: www.morgansite.wordpress.com On 30 May 2018 at 14:02, Marla Fullerton <marlarae68@gmail.com> wrote: > This was written at the beginning of the 1700's in a letter to Archibald > Bartram: > my father and uncle died, so the best account I could have "was > from my grandmother, who lived some years after. She told me > that my great grandfather's name was Richard Bartram. He > lived in Derbyshire, and his father before him. Richard Bar- > tram had one son, called John, who married my grandmother, in > Derby. They settled in the town of Ashburn, in the Peak, where > they lived, and had three sons and one daughter. From thence > they removed to Pennsylvania, before there was one house in > Philadelphia. > I know they were Quakers and came with Penn.I don,t know their meeting or > anything else about the Grandmothers maiden name. I really am interested in > working this family back to England as far as I can take it as this is a > brick wall > with Richard and Richard and knowing that John settled in Ashburn after he > married but from where. > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 5:04 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > ......still breathing ;-) > > > > We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't > know > > it would you > > > > Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) > > > > Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? > > > > Brick walls to knock down ? > > > > Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? > > > > Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) > > > > -- > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysge > > n@rootsweb.com/ > > > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysge > > n@rootsweb.com/ > > > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > > community > > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Still breathing Nivard! I was just in the UK so haven't been on line. However, I got my Ancestry DNA results today - can you tell me where I find the GED match number? Interesting that my closest match is a Beresford, and my ethnicity is mostly Western European which would fit in with the Beresford line. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 6:04 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Anyone............. ......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Anne Unfortunately I know very little about the dna side of things, it just doesn't interest me But I am sure there will be someone who can help you on the list who is into such things Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/05/2018 15:51, ANNE wrote: > Still breathing Nivard!   I was just in the UK so haven't been on line. > However, I got my Ancestry DNA results today - can you tell me where I > find the GED match number? > > Interesting that my closest match is a Beresford, and my ethnicity is > mostly Western European which would fit in with the Beresford line. > > Anne

https://www.yourdnaguide.com/upload-to-gedmatch/ Edna - Ottawa

Thank you Edna!!! -----Original Message----- From: liverpud Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 11:19 AM To: Derbyshire genealogy Subject: [DBY]GedMatch https://www.yourdnaguide.com/upload-to-gedmatch/ Edna - Ottawa _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Is research ever finished? There is always some intriguing thread to follow, leading to who knows where?! My unanswered question is where the earliest written record of the name BRENTNALL might to be found? In church records, of course, but where else? Any sightings and suggestions are sought. I await with interest, thank you. Jeanette Brentnall, Queensland, Australia. On 30 May 2018, at 8:04 pm, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: ......still breathing ;-) We currently have 590 subscribers to Derbysgen, although you wouldn't know it would you Surely you haven't all finished your research ? (whatever finished is) Some of those 590 must have some questions to ask ? Brick walls to knock down ? Burning questions regarding a location or situation or occupation ? Remember the only silly question is the one you don't ask :-) -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Jeanette Brentnall 4 Oak Beach Rd., Oak Beach, Queensland 4877 phone: 0740 985216

No research is never ever finished, it is simply impossible to complete fully But its something I see stated from time to time, it always makes me smile Have you looked at the names in the domesday book? No BRENTNALL but there are BRETEL and perhaps some other possibles But the only way of knowing a connection is to trace your lot backwards, trying to join the dots is usually a bit of a let down Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 31/05/2018 00:48, Jeanette Brentnall wrote: > Is research ever finished? There is always some intriguing thread to follow, leading to who knows where?! > My unanswered question is where the earliest written record of the name BRENTNALL might to be found? In church records, of course, but where else? Any sightings and suggestions are sought. I await with interest, thank you. > > Jeanette Brentnall, Queensland, Australia.

Yes, I have looked in the Domesday Book, but as you say, no BRENTNALL as such. The earliest reference I have found was in 1458 when Richard Brentnall of Shipley was presented at Court for foddering his horses on Ilkeston Common. There is a line that has been traced from that date, but nothing prior. Where should I look to go beyond 1458? Any suggestions would be most welcome. Jeanette Brentnall, Queensland, Autralia. On 31 May 2018, at 5:44 pm, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: No research is never ever finished, it is simply impossible to complete fully But its something I see stated from time to time, it always makes me smile Have you looked at the names in the domesday book? No BRENTNALL but there are BRETEL and perhaps some other possibles But the only way of knowing a connection is to trace your lot backwards, trying to join the dots is usually a bit of a let down Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 31/05/2018 00:48, Jeanette Brentnall wrote: > Is research ever finished? There is always some intriguing thread to follow, leading to who knows where?! > My unanswered question is where the earliest written record of the name BRENTNALL might to be found? In church records, of course, but where else? Any sightings and suggestions are sought. I await with interest, thank you. > Jeanette Brentnall, Queensland, Australia. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community Jeanette Brentnall 4 Oak Beach Rd., Oak Beach, Queensland 4877 phone: 0740 985216