Hello Karen, >From Notts FHS Baptismal Index: 4 Oct 1696 at Basford Wm son of Richd & Mary ENGLAND 1 February 1700 at Basford Sarah daughter Richd & Mary ENGLAND 31 October 1703 at Basford Richard son Richard & Mary ENGLAND 29 October 1706 at Basford Richard son of Richard & Mary ENGLAND 26 March 1710 at Basford Mary daughter Rich & Mary ENGLAND 12 July 1683 at Basford Samuell son of Richard ENGLAND 13 February 1687 at Basford John son of Richard ENGLAND 3 March 1690 at Basford Mary daughter of Richard ENGLAND >From Notts FHS Burial Index: 16 September 1702 at Basford Mary ENGLAND daughter of Ricard 6 June 1705 at Basford Ann ENGLAND wife of Ricard 9 September 1723 at Basford Samuel ENGLAND son of Richard & Mary 12 September 1733 at Basford Mary ENGLAND, wife of Richard 19 February 1758 at Basford Richard ENGLAND >From Phillimore's Marriage Index of Basford: 25 August 1683 David ENGLAND & Elizabeth JOLIANE 12 July 1705 Richard ENGLAND & Mary STOONES There are subsequent ENGLAND marriages but I cannot find Richard's marriage to Ann at Basford, nor indeed at all on my copy (admittedly an old one) of the Notts FHS Marriage Index. Not too sure whether this will help determine the parentage of Samuel, John & Mary and I would think the probability is that the burial record for Samuel in 1723 is a different Samuel to the one baptised in 1683 as the latter would be unlikely to be considered the son of anybody by 1723. Hope this helps confirm a few dates for you if nothing else. Janet > I have accessed the following information information from Parish Records > Online - Basford for ENGLAND To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks Janet - It seems definitely to be 2 different families - so yes I am on the right track now it looks i need to do a blanket search using Elizabeth Joliane and Mary Stones (stoones) well rome wasn't built in day - and I guess that goes for family history... On 26 April 2013 19:57, Janet Booth <janet@boothworld.co.uk> wrote: > Hello Karen, > > >From Notts FHS Baptismal Index: > > 4 Oct 1696 at Basford Wm son of Richd & Mary ENGLAND > 1 February 1700 at Basford Sarah daughter Richd & Mary ENGLAND > 31 October 1703 at Basford Richard son Richard & Mary ENGLAND > 29 October 1706 at Basford Richard son of Richard & Mary ENGLAND > 26 March 1710 at Basford Mary daughter Rich & Mary ENGLAND > > 12 July 1683 at Basford Samuell son of Richard ENGLAND > 13 February 1687 at Basford John son of Richard ENGLAND > 3 March 1690 at Basford Mary daughter of Richard ENGLAND > > >From Notts FHS Burial Index: > > 16 September 1702 at Basford Mary ENGLAND daughter of Ricard > 6 June 1705 at Basford Ann ENGLAND wife of Ricard > 9 September 1723 at Basford Samuel ENGLAND son of Richard & Mary > 12 September 1733 at Basford Mary ENGLAND, wife of Richard > 19 February 1758 at Basford Richard ENGLAND > > >From Phillimore's Marriage Index of Basford: > > 25 August 1683 David ENGLAND & Elizabeth JOLIANE > 12 July 1705 Richard ENGLAND & Mary STOONES > > There are subsequent ENGLAND marriages but I cannot find Richard's marriage > to Ann at Basford, nor indeed at all on my copy (admittedly an old one) of > the Notts FHS Marriage Index. > > Not too sure whether this will help determine the parentage of Samuel, John > & Mary and I would think the probability is that the burial record for > Samuel in 1723 is a different Samuel to the one baptised in 1683 as the > latter would be unlikely to be considered the son of anybody by 1723. > > Hope this helps confirm a few dates for you if nothing else. > > Janet > > > > I have accessed the following information information from Parish Records > > Online - Basford for ENGLAND > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >