Hi Joy Are you using Ancestry or another supplier? On Ancestry, use old search, in advanced search enter the address in the keyword box If it does not come up try abbreviating the Street to St or Road to Rd if still no hits remove parts of the address to get pertinent hits, if your house number does not pop up try no number and pick one close by in the enumerators summaries In 1911 the enumerator did a street listing, (the RG78) they are called the enumerators summaries on Ancestry They will list the houses around and about your target As Phyllis married as a BIRCH it suggests she was not adopted, otherwise who would have married as POUNTAIN surely? This appears to back up your theroy it was her England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Phyllis Mary Roddis Name: Phyllis Mary Roddis Birth Date: 15 Sep 1906 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1970 Age at Death: 63 Registration district: Chesterfield Inferred County: Derbyshire Volume: 3a Page: 274 If you can't find the address let us know and we can search for you Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/04/2013 18:42, Joy Hungerford wrote: > I made some enquiries a while ago about Phyllis Mary BIRCH, a 4-year-old niece, living with > my GU, Benjamin Henry POUNTAIN, in Chesterfield, in 1911. I suspect that she was the niece of his wife, > Margaret [JONES], who was born in Flintshire. Phyllis was born in Cheshire and, as I've found a marriage > (to George R RODDIS in 1942) and three children, 1942, 1946 and 1947, all events in Chesterfield, I wonder > if Phyllis was adopted or 'adopted' by Ben and Margaret. > > I'm no nearer pinpointing her relationship, but as my father had a good friend and colleague, Arthur RODDIS, > I've spent a few entertaining hours trying to find a link between the two RODDIS families. > > So far, nothing, but as a baby in 1911, Arthur was living with his family in Prospect St, Alfreton, where my GGF, > Thomas STOKES, was living, in a house, for which he had done all the beautiful carpentry himself, with his wife > and youngest children. > > Can anyone tell me, please, how to trawl the 1911 Census for a particular address? I thought this would be fairly > simple, but find that each schedule has a cover sheet, then the schedule itself. There doesn't seem to be a useful > way of telling who the neighbours were. I also found that Thomas, and other family members, seem to have ignored > the requirement to fill in a Census Return for 1911. I'm quite cross, really. > > Anyway, if anyone knows more about any of these people, I'd be very pleased to hear from them. > > > Kind regards > > Joy

Hi Nivard Thank you for your advice. I'll have another go at tracing my GGF's address. You're right about Phyllis's maiden name. This is why I thought an informal arrangement might have been made with her aunt and uncle. I'm grateful for your time and trouble. Kind regards Joy > Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:17:00 +0100 > From: ovington.one@gmail.com > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DBY] BIRCH/RODDIS in Chesterfield > > Hi Joy > > Are you using Ancestry or another supplier? > > On Ancestry, use old search, in advanced search enter the address in the > keyword box > > If it does not come up try abbreviating the Street to St or Road to Rd > if still no hits remove parts of the address to get pertinent hits, if > your house number does not pop up try no number and pick one close by in > the enumerators summaries > > In 1911 the enumerator did a street listing, (the RG78) they are called > the enumerators summaries on Ancestry > > They will list the houses around and about your target > > As Phyllis married as a BIRCH it suggests she was not adopted, otherwise > who would have married as POUNTAIN surely? > > This appears to back up your theroy it was her > > England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Phyllis Mary Roddis > Name: Phyllis Mary Roddis > Birth Date: 15 Sep 1906 > Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1970 > Age at Death: 63 > Registration district: Chesterfield > Inferred County: Derbyshire > Volume: 3a > Page: 274 > > If you can't find the address let us know and we can search for you > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 26/04/2013 18:42, Joy Hungerford wrote: > > I made some enquiries a while ago about Phyllis Mary BIRCH, a 4-year-old niece, living with > > my GU, Benjamin Henry POUNTAIN, in Chesterfield, in 1911. I suspect that she was the niece of his wife, > > Margaret [JONES], who was born in Flintshire. Phyllis was born in Cheshire and, as I've found a marriage > > (to George R RODDIS in 1942) and three children, 1942, 1946 and 1947, all events in Chesterfield, I wonder > > if Phyllis was adopted or 'adopted' by Ben and Margaret. > > > > I'm no nearer pinpointing her relationship, but as my father had a good friend and colleague, Arthur RODDIS, > > I've spent a few entertaining hours trying to find a link between the two RODDIS families. > > > > So far, nothing, but as a baby in 1911, Arthur was living with his family in Prospect St, Alfreton, where my GGF, > > Thomas STOKES, was living, in a house, for which he had done all the beautiful carpentry himself, with his wife > > and youngest children. > > > > Can anyone tell me, please, how to trawl the 1911 Census for a particular address? I thought this would be fairly > > simple, but find that each schedule has a cover sheet, then the schedule itself. There doesn't seem to be a useful > > way of telling who the neighbours were. I also found that Thomas, and other family members, seem to have ignored > > the requirement to fill in a Census Return for 1911. I'm quite cross, really. > > > > Anyway, if anyone knows more about any of these people, I'd be very pleased to hear from them. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Joy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message