Hi Peter Further to my last post, about change of name, there are two brothers in Skegby in 1901 - Alec & Isaac - boarders with family named CLARK - the surname has been dittoed down so these might be your two although the ages are a bit out and born in Sheffield which could have been Shirland misheard? Again can't find a Isaac CLARK born 1858 Sheffield on any other Census. I have now found Isaac & Alic TURNER born Sheffield in Skegby in 1891 - lodgers aged 31 & 33 - both miners & single. More questions than answers, I'm afraid! Geraldine -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:51 PM To: Derbyshire Derbysgen Subject: [DBY] Isaac Patilla vanishes Afternoon all I have been waiting for the Ps to appear My brick wall is Isaac Patilla born 1858 in Ashover/Brackenfield/Shirland area; a miner who died 1923 in Mansfield area I have tracked him with difficulty in 1861, 1871 and 1881 (Partiller, Pathia and Satilla) However the remaining three census have him hidden. I have tried prisons (first avenue of enquiry) services, passenger lists but drawn a blank I would like to find his whereabouts if possible Peter ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message