Hej I am trying to find out more about my female line but have come to a dead end and have not been able to confirm that some of the candidates are the right ones. I hope that someone will be able to help me. The ones that I´m uncertain about are the ones furthest back in time. Does anyone have any information about the following persons/families? Ann HOPKINSON, b 1716 (approx) in Shirland, Derbys. Marr William ELLET (ELLIOT?) (b 1709) 12 Jan 1737 Shirland Elizabeth ELLOT (ELLIOT) b Nov 1740, Tibshelf, Derbys, Marr 1. Edward WARDLEY, 1768, Tibshelf, Marr 2 John CHAPMAN (1734 - 1816)26 Feb 1781, bur 2 Mar 1785 Elizabeth CHAPMAN, bap 19 Nov 1781, Tibshelf , Marr. John NUTTALL 25 Nov 1805, Kirkby-in Ashfield, d 7 May 1826, Pinxton Elizabeth NUTTALL, b 6 Apr 1816, Marr Jesse BALL 15 Sep 1835, Pinxton Elizabeths NUTTALL´s sisters were: Mary 1809 -1854 Sarah 1822 - 1836 Hannah BALL b 9 Feb 1851, Pinxton, Marr Edward John SPIERS , 19 May 1877. d 19 Jun 1899. There is one thing they should have and that is that they all belong to mDNA haplogroup U1b1. This haplogroup is extremely rare with only 0.7% of the European population belonging to this group. There is a slightly higher concentration in East Europe and higher in the Middle East but the number of people belong to this group becomes fewer the further west one goes in Europe. How did a woman belonging to this haplogroup land in a litle area of eastern Derbyshire? I would be grateful to hear from anyone with information of these women or who also belongs to haplogroup U1b1. Best wishes Graham Freeman Göteborg, Sweden

Am 21.05.2013 16:57, schrieb Graham Freeman: > Hej > I am trying to find out more about my female line but have come to a dead > end and have not been able to confirm that some of the candidates are the > right ones. I hope that someone will be able to help me. The ones that I´m > uncertain about are the ones furthest back in time. > > Does anyone have any information about the following persons/families? > > Ann HOPKINSON, b 1716 (approx) in Shirland, Derbys. Marr William ELLET > (ELLIOT?) (b 1709) 12 Jan 1737 Shirland > Elizabeth ELLOT (ELLIOT) b Nov 1740, Tibshelf, Derbys, Marr 1. Edward > WARDLEY, 1768, Tibshelf, Marr 2 John CHAPMAN (1734 - 1816)26 Feb 1781, bur 2 > Mar 1785 > Elizabeth CHAPMAN, bap 19 Nov 1781, Tibshelf , Marr. John NUTTALL 25 Nov > 1805, Kirkby-in Ashfield, d 7 May 1826, Pinxton > Elizabeth NUTTALL, b 6 Apr 1816, Marr Jesse BALL 15 Sep 1835, Pinxton > > Elizabeths NUTTALL´s sisters were: > Mary 1809 -1854 > Sarah 1822 - 1836 > > Hannah BALL b 9 Feb 1851, Pinxton, Marr Edward John SPIERS , 19 May 1877. d > 19 Jun 1899. > > There is one thing they should have and that is that they all belong to mDNA > haplogroup U1b1. This haplogroup is extremely rare with only 0.7% of the > European population belonging to this group. There is a slightly higher > concentration in East Europe and higher in the Middle East but the number of > people belong to this group becomes fewer the further west one goes in > Europe. How did a woman belonging to this haplogroup land in a litle area of > eastern Derbyshire? > > I would be grateful to hear from anyone with information of these women or > who also belongs to haplogroup U1b1. > > Best wishes > Graham Freeman > Göteborg, Sweden > > > I too have the ELLET...ELLIOTT name in my tree, have we been in touch before? Rita in Germany

Hi Graham You asked, "Does anyone have any information about the following persons/families?" Ann HOPKINSON, b 1716 (approx) in Shirland, Derbys. Marr William ELLET (ELLIOT?) (b 1709) 12 Jan 1737 Shirland I have a brickwall concerning a female HOPKINSON in Shirland, namely : "On the 3 April 1724, William Richards married Abigail Berkhamshire, both of the parish of South Wingfield, Derbyshire at their parish church. Three children survived namely William, George and Dorothy. Sadly Abigail Richards died and was buried in 1731 and was buried at nearby Shirland Parish Church. William Richards, then a widower with three young children, was given poor relief but on the 7 February 1733 he married Elizabeth Hopkinson at nearby South Normanton Parish Church, Derbyshire. Both were said to be of Higham in the parish of Shirland. Two more children were born, namely Francis and Mathew, before Elizabth Richards died in September 1737, leaving William Richards, with five children and a widower for the second time. The youngest Mathew Richards was aged 18 months at that time. Where did the family move to? What became of baby Mathew Richards?" Were the HOPKINSON family farmers in Shirland? I wonder were the "ELLET (ELLIOT?) family in the early 1700s really "of Shirland"? It is many years since I researched Higham, Shirland and nearby parishes. Regards Jack : www.richardsbygonetimes.co.uk