There OUGHT to be a number of R surnames <G> Here's a nice one to start off: Elizabeth RILEY b abt 1821 Measham, Derbyshire married Joseph SHAKESPEARE b abt 1817 in Swadlincote. They had one dau that I know about Susan(nah) 1842-1883. Elizabeth died 1889 in Staffs so kindly removes herself from this list's remit. That is my sum total of information about this lady. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Well I can't resist Charani, even though I know the chances of help are a little remote. R for RENSHAW of course. I'm interested in any RENSHAWs but particularly Derbyshire ones and most especially those who were in Eckington/ Ridgeway/Birley Hay/Ford/Troway from c1600 onwards (some are still in the area). The brick wall in my ex-husband's tree is the delightfully named Maximilian RENSHAW who first appears as a creditor in the Will of his stepfather George HILL of Troway (written 1628, proved 1632). I suspect that Max was young at that date, possibly just starting an apprenticeship with George HILL as a cooper, so I estimate a birth year about 1620. Max began baptising babies in Eckington 1648, but his wife is unknown and I have no marriage for him. He had 5 known children in Eckington and died there in 1680. His descendancy down to my sons is now known and all the males in the line are named William or Thomas until it reaches my late father in law Alan, so there has to be some reason for the wonderfully odd name of Maximilian. The RENSHAWs seem to have been genetic dissenters until recent generations, so I think the name may indicate dissent - but equally it could mean he was Roman Catholic. I think he may have been away in the civil wars in the years before 1648 and may have married while away. But it's all supposition. If anyone sees any sight of this Maximilian RENSHAW I would dearly like to know. He did have an eldest son Maximilian too (1648-1707) but his line either didn't stay in Eckington or died out. With only a smidgen of hope Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK On 26 May 2013 12:38, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: > > There OUGHT to be a number of R surnames <G> > > Here's a nice one to start off: > > Elizabeth RILEY b abt 1821 Measham, Derbyshire married Joseph > SHAKESPEARE b abt 1817 in Swadlincote. They had one dau that I know > about Susan(nah) 1842-1883. > > Elizabeth died 1889 in Staffs so kindly removes herself from this > list's remit. > > That is my sum total of information about this lady. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am interested in finding out more about the RADFORD families, and in particular  one with the middle name of Richardson. My gt.gt.grandfather, John Cutts (1830-1905), manager of his brother's lace factories under the name of 'T. B. CUTTS' until his death,  was later in partnership with Frederick Richardson Radford, a Sheriff of Nottingham, in the firm of 'Radford and Cutts'.    The earlier company name was then used by John Cutts (1858-1933) son of the above John Cutts. Frederick was married to Mary SPRAY - a lace family linked to both my Cutts and Butler lace families.     He had a brother John Heiron RADFORD, who was a boat builder employing two men and 2 boys and living at 25 Glebe Street, Nottingham in 1881, with his wife Emma nee LOVATT.  (also spelt Lovett) Their father was also a John Heiron RADFORD, a Lace Maker from Sneinton St. Stephens. In 1871 this Frederick Richardson RADFORD was at 22 Melville Street, 26. a Wholesale Milliner, born Sneinton, with his wife Mary, 23, b. Beeston, and dau Nellie Mary 1 b. Nottingham St. Peters. An important piece of information was found in a New Members List of the Nottingham Addison St. Cong. Church - where Ernest Cecil Cutts was a Deacon - stating "Mrs. Sarah Radford of Colville Terrace, admitted to the congregation by transfer from Congregational Church, CHESTERFIELD, on 15 October 1867.  Dismissed on her death 23rd June, 1900" Both Butlers and Sprays had factories close to their home bases in Russell Street, Nottingham and my grandmother lived on Raleigh St. in 1881. The RADFORD family were significant in Smalley. I quote "There were only two pews in the church - one on each side of the chancel arch - that on the south being occupied by the "Richardson Radfords" whilst the other pew belonged to the Fletchers or Barbers of Stainsby House." [More recently I have found another of my family lines related to the Fletchers and Barbers!     (KEY from Fritchley to a BARBER of Shipley)  Brian Binns is going to check the St. Leo's, Basford register for further details for me when he is next at the Archives following a request to the list earlier My family tree is becoming more confusingly intertwined with the different surnames most with roots in the Heritage Valley] There are two Frederick RADFORDs in Nottingham who are Lace Manufacturers and both living close to my ancestors, which has confused me a little. The other is a Frederick RADFORD,  son of a Sarah RADFORD, b. Combe in Somerset, who moves to Nottingham. In 1851 At Frome, Somerset,    In 1861 Sherwood/Basford . In 1871 13 Colville Terrace, Widow, aged 67 with sister in law, Eliza Un., 74, b. Chard, and Alfred an Accountant. In 1881 Fredk. RADFORD, 40 is at 7 Colville Villas. Frederick appears to have married Annie JOHNSON 18 May 1862 at St. Leos. I would be pleased to hear of any others who have researched these RADFORD families. Mavis, in Somerset