Hello listers, I'm back after an absence due to researching other branches of my husband's family tree. I still haven't found the burial place of Richard CROMPTON baptised 1819 at Glossop. On IGI his place of birth is given as Torside. Death certificate says he died on 27th January 1848 at Hayfield, age 28. Cause of death: fever not certified. His occupation was Papermaker. His father was John CROMPTON, also a Papermaker and his mother Sarah (?TAYLOR). He married Mary CASTLE at All Saints, Marple in 1840 I have found the burial of his wife, Mary in 1891, age 74, of Dinting Lane, and some of their family at Glossop Cemetery but I have searched and can't find him. From 1851 census till her death in 1891 Mary lived at Dinting. In 1841 census he was living at Chapel en le Frith, papermaker, born this county. His surname is transcribed as CRAMPTON. I have found a marriage for John CRAMPTON and Sarah TAYLOR at Glossop in 1815. Are these his parents?. His child Ann, was born in Spain in 1844 and baptised at Villalgo and was also was baptised at Glossop in 1848. I believe that Richard and his wife went to Spain to be involved in the setting up of a papermaking factory. As you can see the family were in the Glossop area for quite a while. Strangely, two of his children were baptised in Parish Church, Glossop on 30th January 1848 - three days after he died! 1.Can someone tell me why this might have happened so soon after their father's death? 2. Can someone tell me anything about Torside? Was there a papermill in that area at this time? 3. Does anyone have a clue as to where Richard might be buried? Many thanks for reading my posting, Carole Noden, Kent, UK

I can't help with Richard CROMPTON's burial I'm afraid but can supply a couple of general points. I think the biggest employer at Torside in 1819 would have been Vale House Mill (cotton). I don't think there was paper making there. Otherwise people would be employed in farming. The area is underneath the Longdendale reservoirs now. Did Richard actually die at Hayfield or in Hayfield registration district (which includes Glossop). There was paper making in the Strines/New Mills/Hayfield area but there was also paper making at Turn Lee Mills in Whitfield township of Glossop. As a guess, the baptisms may have happened because of involvement with the church for the funeral and the vicar realising that the children hadn't been baptised. Graham

Hello Carole Glossop early registers are on my website and they too give Richard`s birth place as Torside. I have a CD of the MIs for Hayfield but there are no CROMPTONS mentioned. I am sure someone who knows Glossop will tell you where Torside is. best wishes Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for Hollingworths www.hollingworths.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk John Ward Paintings: www.johnward-art.com

Noden wrote: > Strangely, two of his children were baptised in Parish Church, Glossop on > 30th January 1848 - three days after he died! > 1.Can someone tell me why this might have happened so soon after their > father's death? Today, 30 Jan, in 1848 was a Sunday when many/most baptisms took place. It was most likely the baptisms were already arranged. I had a similar situation with a family. It was because the father was a non conformist and the mother wasn't of the same persuasion. So, as soon as he'd been buried, she took the first opportunity to have the children, in her eyes, properly baptised in the right church. I didn't know he was even married until he was buried! On more than one occasion, I've seen the burial of a parent take place on the same day as the baptism of the child. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk