Hi Joan have you tried the GRO indexes? You can now search online, and see the date at death, which obviously narrows your search- though you can only search in 2 year 'slices' at a time. https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp sadly Kirk Ireton burials have not yet been transcribed in Free REG. Margaret On 05/02/2017 10:30, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Thank you everybody for your input and help. Unfortunately I don't have > access to the Kirk Ireton parish records so can't check if there is a still > born burial around that date and also I don't have access to FMP at the > moment although I have done a search and no records are showing. I do have > the baptisms for all the other siblings so it looks as if there is no > baptism either. I'm almost sure that a first name would have been added in > if one was ever given. I fear it will remain a mystery!! > > Joan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan M [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 03 February 2017 15:38 > To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' > Subject: Can't find birth or death > > Hi, > > In a family bible I have a child called 'baby' WHEELDON, born 31 Mar 1845, > father Edwin WHEELDON and mother Mary Hannah HEAPY married 1843 and living > in the Kirk Ireton/Ireton Wood area. However I can't find either a birth or > death registration and there is no mention in the 1851 census, just his > brother John Heapy WHEELDON. Is there any reason that a birth/death isn't > registered - the GRO index has all subsequent siblings who were listed on > the bible page. > > Thanks > > Joan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you also tried UKBMD? Carole Sent from my iPhone > On 5 Feb 2017, at 10:53, Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Joan > > have you tried the GRO indexes? You can now search online, and see the > date at death, which obviously narrows your search- though you can only > search in 2 year 'slices' at a time. > > https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp > > sadly Kirk Ireton burials have not yet been transcribed in Free REG. > > > Margaret > > >> On 05/02/2017 10:30, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Thank you everybody for your input and help. Unfortunately I don't have >> access to the Kirk Ireton parish records so can't check if there is a still >> born burial around that date and also I don't have access to FMP at the >> moment although I have done a search and no records are showing. I do have >> the baptisms for all the other siblings so it looks as if there is no >> baptism either. I'm almost sure that a first name would have been added in >> if one was ever given. I fear it will remain a mystery!! >> >> Joan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joan M [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 03 February 2017 15:38 >> To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' >> Subject: Can't find birth or death >> >> Hi, >> >> In a family bible I have a child called 'baby' WHEELDON, born 31 Mar 1845, >> father Edwin WHEELDON and mother Mary Hannah HEAPY married 1843 and living >> in the Kirk Ireton/Ireton Wood area. However I can't find either a birth or >> death registration and there is no mention in the 1851 census, just his >> brother John Heapy WHEELDON. Is there any reason that a birth/death isn't >> registered - the GRO index has all subsequent siblings who were listed on >> the bible page. >> >> Thanks >> >> Joan >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan If the family (in the person of the person who wrote the names in the Bible) didn't know the name of the child, doesn't that imply there was never a name and that the child was stillborn? I've looked at cemetery records and from time to time, there are quite a number of entries with 'stillborn' as the only name. Your query might be unanswerable.. Margaret > On 5 Feb 2017, at 13:38, carole williams <[email protected]> wrote: > > Have you also tried UKBMD? Carole > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 5 Feb 2017, at 10:53, Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Joan >> >> have you tried the GRO indexes? You can now search online, and see the >> date at death, which obviously narrows your search- though you can only >> search in 2 year 'slices' at a time. >> >> https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp >> >> sadly Kirk Ireton burials have not yet been transcribed in Free REG. >> >> >> Margaret >> >> >>> On 05/02/2017 10:30, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: >>> Thank you everybody for your input and help. Unfortunately I don't have >>> access to the Kirk Ireton parish records so can't check if there is a still >>> born burial around that date and also I don't have access to FMP at the >>> moment although I have done a search and no records are showing. I do have >>> the baptisms for all the other siblings so it looks as if there is no >>> baptism either. I'm almost sure that a first name would have been added in >>> if one was ever given. I fear it will remain a mystery!! >>> >>> Joan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Joan M [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: 03 February 2017 15:38 >>> To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' >>> Subject: Can't find birth or death >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> In a family bible I have a child called 'baby' WHEELDON, born 31 Mar 1845, >>> father Edwin WHEELDON and mother Mary Hannah HEAPY married 1843 and living >>> in the Kirk Ireton/Ireton Wood area. However I can't find either a birth or >>> death registration and there is no mention in the 1851 census, just his >>> brother John Heapy WHEELDON. Is there any reason that a birth/death isn't >>> registered - the GRO index has all subsequent siblings who were listed on >>> the bible page. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Joan >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret, Yes thanks, I have but no joy. I'm beginning to think that it must have been a stillbirth as I'm sure the bible would have been amended. Kind regards Joan -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN Sent: 05 February 2017 10:53 To: [email protected] Cc: Margaret Siudek Subject: Re: [DBY] FW: Can't find birth or death Hi Joan have you tried the GRO indexes? You can now search online, and see the date at death, which obviously narrows your search- though you can only search in 2 year 'slices' at a time. https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp sadly Kirk Ireton burials have not yet been transcribed in Free REG. Margaret On 05/02/2017 10:30, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Thank you everybody for your input and help. Unfortunately I don't > have access to the Kirk Ireton parish records so can't check if there > is a still born burial around that date and also I don't have access > to FMP at the moment although I have done a search and no records are > showing. I do have the baptisms for all the other siblings so it looks > as if there is no baptism either. I'm almost sure that a first name > would have been added in if one was ever given. I fear it will remain a mystery!! > > Joan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan M [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 03 February 2017 15:38 > To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' > Subject: Can't find birth or death > > Hi, > > In a family bible I have a child called 'baby' WHEELDON, born 31 Mar > 1845, father Edwin WHEELDON and mother Mary Hannah HEAPY married 1843 > and living in the Kirk Ireton/Ireton Wood area. However I can't find > either a birth or death registration and there is no mention in the > 1851 census, just his brother John Heapy WHEELDON. Is there any reason > that a birth/death isn't registered - the GRO index has all subsequent > siblings who were listed on the bible page. > > Thanks > > Joan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret You can actually search the GRO site in 5 year slices - the year you input +/- 2 years. Sue -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2017 10:52 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Margaret Siudek Subject: Re: [DBY] FW: Can't find birth or death Hi Joan have you tried the GRO indexes? You can now search online, and see the date at death, which obviously narrows your search- though you can only search in 2 year 'slices' at a time. https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/menu.asp sadly Kirk Ireton burials have not yet been transcribed in Free REG. Margaret On 05/02/2017 10:30, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Thank you everybody for your input and help. Unfortunately I don't have > access to the Kirk Ireton parish records so can't check if there is a > still > born burial around that date and also I don't have access to FMP at the > moment although I have done a search and no records are showing. I do have > the baptisms for all the other siblings so it looks as if there is no > baptism either. I'm almost sure that a first name would have been added in > if one was ever given. I fear it will remain a mystery!! > > Joan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joan M [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 03 February 2017 15:38 > To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' > Subject: Can't find birth or death > > Hi, > > In a family bible I have a child called 'baby' WHEELDON, born 31 Mar 1845, > father Edwin WHEELDON and mother Mary Hannah HEAPY married 1843 and living > in the Kirk Ireton/Ireton Wood area. However I can't find either a birth > or > death registration and there is no mention in the 1851 census, just his > brother John Heapy WHEELDON. Is there any reason that a birth/death isn't > registered - the GRO index has all subsequent siblings who were listed on > the bible page. > > Thanks > > Joan > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message