I think it says I and Bromehead were the godfathers and Lady/Mistress Elizabeth Froggatt godmother > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I am trying to read and understand an entry in Baslow Parish Register on > FamilySearch: > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77XT-L83D?i=4&wc=34JX-N3F%3A15811599 > 03%2C1581162701%2C1581163205&cc=1911752 > > The entry I'm interested in is the 9th one down on the right hand page and > concerns the baptism of Bartholomeus VICKERS, son of Bartholomei VICKERS of > Baslow on the 26th December 1691 - that bit I understand. > > But what follows? > > ?? Ego et Bromehead Suscep.ares et Domina Eliz FROGGATT Suscephr.e > > Help would be appreciated > > Rosemary > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 11:08:33 +0000 > From: Margaret Siudek <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN meaning of Latin text in parish record > Message-ID: > <[email protected]od.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Quite right, Meg - just found them in a vocabulary list for church Latin > > susceptor is godfather > susceptorix is godmother. > > My school Latin is very rusty, but the meaning of the whole sentence is odd. Domina is Lady. "Ego et" means, "me and" so "the godparents and I"? Or if the second word was "est" not "et", it could be "I am the godfather and Lady Eliz Froggat is the godmother". Someone else may well remember more than me.... > > > NB The vocabulary list is at https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Latin_Genealogical_Word_List#S for future use by anyone. > > Margaret > > On 09/04/2017 10:47, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: > > One of the meanings of Susceptares is Guardian so could they be the God > Parents? > > Meg Galley-Taylor > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Baslow Parish Register 1691 - help reading it needed > (Rosemary Probert) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 17:54:29 +0100 > From: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> > To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] Baslow Parish Register 1691 - help reading it needed > Message-ID: <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > Evening All, > > I am trying to read and understand an entry in Baslow Parish Register on > FamilySearch: > > https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77XT-L83D?i=4&wc=34JX-N3F%3A15811599 > 03%2C1581162701%2C1581163205&cc=1911752 > > The entry I'm interested in is the 9th one down on the right hand page and > concerns the baptism of Bartholomeus VICKERS, son of Bartholomei VICKERS of > Baslow on the 26th December 1691 - that bit I understand. > > But what follows? > > ?? Ego et Bromehead Suscep.ares et Domina Eliz FROGGATT Suscephr.e > > Help would be appreciated > > Rosemary > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 12:17:09 +0100 > From: Celia Renshaw <[email protected]> > To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN meaning of Latin text in parish record > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Yes, I think the 'ego' will be the vicar, who I think is Bromehead?? There > was a Bromehead vicar at Eckington I remember, though probably much later. > so I guess the incumbent is saying "I and mistress so-and-so are > godparents." She's not necessarily a "Lady" in the aristocratic sense, but > probably someone reasonably well-off? > > Do the baptism pages show other entries of godparents' names? Also at > Eckington, if memory serves, in the early register/s, all godparents were > listed. It's astonishing to see how tightly kinitted the families in > parishes were by godparenting as well as the links we usually think of > first, ie. marriage, religion, occupation, class. > > Celia Renshaw > now in Sheffield, Yorks > > On 9 April 2017 at 12:08, Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Quite right, Meg - just found them in a vocabulary list for church Latin >> >> susceptor is godfather >> susceptorix is godmother. >> >> My school Latin is very rusty, but the meaning of the whole sentence is >> odd. Domina is Lady. "Ego et" means, "me and" so "the godparents and I"? >> Or if the second word was "est" not "et", it could be "I am the godfather >> and Lady Eliz Froggat is the godmother". Someone else may well remember >> more than me.... >> >> >> NB The vocabulary list is at https://familysearch.org/wiki/ >> en/Latin_Genealogical_Word_List#S for future use by anyone. >> >> Margaret >> >> On 09/04/2017 10:47, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> >> One of the meanings of Susceptares is Guardian so could they be the God >> Parents? >> >> Meg Galley-Taylor >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Baslow Parish Register 1691 - help reading it needed >> (Rosemary Probert) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 17:54:29 +0100 >> From: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]><mailto: >> [email protected]> >> To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]><mailto: >> [email protected]> >> Subject: [DBY] Baslow Parish Register 1691 - help reading it needed >> Message-ID: <[email protected]><mailto: >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed >> >> Evening All, >> >> I am trying to read and understand an entry in Baslow Parish Register on >> FamilySearch: >> >> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77XT-L83D?i=4&wc= >> 34JX-N3F%3A15811599 >> 03%2C1581162701%2C1581163205&cc=1911752 >> >> The entry I'm interested in is the 9th one down on the right hand page and >> concerns the baptism of Bartholomeus VICKERS, son of Bartholomei VICKERS of >> Baslow on the 26th December 1691 - that bit I understand. >> >> But what follows? >> >> ?? Ego et Bromehead Suscep.ares et Domina Eliz FROGGATT Suscephr.e >> >> Help would be appreciated >> >> Rosemary >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2017 18:19:54 +0100 > From: Marie ball <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 12, Issue 91 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed > > > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Baslow Parish Register 1691 - help reading it needed >> (Rosemary Probert) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 17:54:29 +0100 >> From: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]> >> To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]> >> Subject: [DBY] Baslow Parish Register 1691 - help reading it needed >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed >> >> Evening All, >> >> I am trying to read and understand an entry in Baslow Parish Register on >> FamilySearch: >> >> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77XT-L83D?i=4&wc=34JX-N3F%3A1581159903%2C1581162701%2C1581163205&cc=1911752 >> >> The entry I'm interested in is the 9th one down on the right hand page >> and concerns the baptism of Bartholomeus VICKERS, son of Bartholomei >> VICKERS of Baslow on the 26th December 1691 - that bit I understand. >> >> But what follows? >> >> ?? Ego et Bromehead Suscep.ares et Domina Eliz FROGGATT Suscephr.e >> >> Help would be appreciated >> >> Rosemary >> >> I'd have said godparents but I didn't think Anglican churches recorded godparents at that date, though they certainly did during the reign of Mary. >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the DERBYSGEN list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the DERBYSGEN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 12, Issue 92 > *****************************************