Celia, I have tried to see who was vicar or curate but without success. I still need lots of practice reading this style of hand writing, On 09/04/2017 12:17, Celia Renshaw via en though I haven't come across any other entries like this at Baslow, so it had me (and my 2nd year Latin) completely stumped. wrote: > Yes, I think the 'ego' will be the vicar, who I think is Bromehead?? There > was a Bromehead vicar at Eckington I remember, though probably much later. > so I guess the incumbent is saying "I and mistress so-and-so are > godparents." She's not necessarily a "Lady" in the aristocratic sense, but > probably someone reasonably well-off? > > Do the baptism pages show other entries of godparents' names? Also at > Eckington, if memory serves, in the early register/s, all godparents were > listed. It's astonishing to see how tightly kinitted the families in > parishes were by godparenting as well as the links we usually think of > first, ie. marriage, religion, occupation, class. > > Celia Renshaw > now in Sheffield, Yorks > > On 9 April 2017 at 12:08, Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Quite right, Meg - just found them in a vocabulary list for church Latin >> >> susceptor is godfather >> susceptorix is godmother. >> >> My school Latin is very rusty, but the meaning of the whole sentence is >> odd. Domina is Lady. "Ego et" means, "me and" so "the godparents and I"? >> Or if the second word was "est" not "et", it could be "I am the godfather >> and Lady Eliz Froggat is the godmother". Someone else may well remember >> more than me.... >> >> >> NB The vocabulary list is at https://familysearch.org/wiki/ >> en/Latin_Genealogical_Word_List#S for future use by anyone. >> >> Margaret >> >> On 09/04/2017 10:47, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> >> One of the meanings of Susceptares is Guardian so could they be the God >> Parents? >> >> Meg Galley-Taylor >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Baslow Parish Register 1691 - help reading it needed >> (Rosemary Probert) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2017 17:54:29 +0100 >> From: Rosemary Probert <[email protected]><mailto: >> [email protected]> >> To: Derbyshire Mailing List <[email protected]><mailto: >> [email protected]> >> Subject: [DBY] Baslow Parish Register 1691 - help reading it needed >> Message-ID: <[email protected]><mailto: >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed >> >> Evening All, >> >> I am trying to read and understand an entry in Baslow Parish Register on >> FamilySearch: >> >> https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:2:77XT-L83D?i=4&wc= >> 34JX-N3F%3A15811599 >> 03%2C1581162701%2C1581163205&cc=1911752 >> >> The entry I'm interested in is the 9th one down on the right hand page and >> concerns the baptism of Bartholomeus VICKERS, son of Bartholomei VICKERS of >> Baslow on the 26th December 1691 - that bit I understand. >> >> But what follows? >> >> ?? Ego et Bromehead Suscep.ares et Domina Eliz FROGGATT Suscephr.e >> >> Help would be appreciated >> >> Rosemary >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Ooops - that got away before I'd finished :-) Thank you all who have sorted out roughly what was said, even though the Latin was perhaps a little rough. As far as I can see this is the only entry like this, so it must have had some significance - perhaps because it was the vicar/curate's god child and he was pleased with himself! Rosemary On 10/04/2017 09:30, Rosemary Probert wrote: > Celia, > > I have tried to see who was vicar or curate but without success. I still > need lots of practice reading this style of hand writing, > > > > On 09/04/2017 12:17, Celia Renshaw via en though I haven't come across > any other entries like this at Baslow, so it had me (and my 2nd year > Latin) completely stumped. wrote: >> Yes, I think the 'ego' will be the vicar, who I think is Bromehead?? >> There >> was a Bromehead vicar at Eckington I remember, though probably much >> later. >> so I guess the incumbent is saying "I and mistress so-and-so are >> godparents." She's not necessarily a "Lady" in the aristocratic sense, >> but >> probably someone reasonably well-off? >> >> Do the baptism pages show other entries of godparents' names? Also at >> Eckington, if memory serves, in the early register/s, all godparents were >> listed. It's astonishing to see how tightly kinitted the families in >> parishes were by godparenting as well as the links we usually think of >> first, ie. marriage, religion, occupation, class. >> >> Celia Renshaw >> now in Sheffield, Yorks