Thanks for the clarification Nivard; that makes a lot more sense. Steve Bowen -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:08 PM To: Steve Bowen; 'Derbyshire genealogy' Subject: Re: [DBY] Hugh de Allsop Hi again Steve I think you may have misunderstood my reply I wasn't saying the whole thing was fictitious, I was saying the wording used in many a family history are/were ambiguous It still remains the case that a coat of arms, of which a part was the crest, was to an individual not a family Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12-May-17 5:22 PM, Steve Bowen wrote: > I would certainly agree with that statement Nivard BUT on the other > hand I would sure love to believe my story and will keep searching > until I can prove it correct or possibly not. I do appreciate your comments though. > > Steve Bowen