Excellent article. Liz -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Celia Renshaw via DERBYSGEN Sent: 04 June 2017 14:27 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Celia Renshaw Subject: Re: [DBY] Baptisms where father isn't named Here's another piece of work on betrothal/marriage customs - many kinds from many locations: http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Betrothal Celia Renshaw in Sheffield UK On 4 June 2017 at 13:30, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN < [email protected]> wrote: > Like you I have poured over many a parish register, and have seen all > varieties from the whimsical to the downright vicious comments in the margin > > But when the father is known, and they are a couple I would say most > mention that father, sometimes in both names, others as though they were > married already > > But when the father isn't mentioned at all it suggests to me illegitimacy > > I think a lot of the stories of hand fasting etc are invented much later > by people finding illegitimacy in their lines and trying to paper over the > cracks > > For one thing how would they know? there are few if any records for > handfasting > > But you are right regarding the variance in vicars or their clerks in how > they recorded events > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 04-Jun-17 1:24 PM, Celia Renshaw via DERBYSGEN wrote: > >> Hmmm... haven't seen that very often myself Nivard :) Most PRs I've seen >> have no ministerial comments at all. >> >> Depended on the minister I'd guess. All part of the secret & lies for him >> not to say anything when the child was born 'early'. >> >> Celia Renshaw >> in Sheffield UK >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com