Hi all Sorry to post yet another admin post As you know we have a new system to contend with, it has its foibles but at least it works We admins are having problems with the differences of the old system to the new Particularly messages which we find held for admin approval Some subscribers are sending a relevant to the list post but are sending from an email address which isn't subscribed Or are copying back to the list the *whole* digest often without changing the subject line It used to be the case that we could reject those posts and inform the sender as to the reason for the rejection, in the new system we cannot, we can only reject So please help yourselves when you post Send only from a subscribed address (if you register with rootsweb you can see which lists you are subscribed to ) When replying from a digest post, always change the subject line to the post of interest and only post back the part of the original post that keeps the reply in context (and not the whole digest please) If your post does not appear on the list, check your post for address and content and if required re-post For the present, I may not be able to reject *and* give a reason for same Thank you -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi all I just wanted to remind all subscribers that we now have a new Mailman system for the lists There are several differences in the system Subscribe & Unsubscribe addresses are different (it now has *subscribe* in the address rather than the old *request*) If you register with Rootsweb (you need to re-register even if you were previously registered, if you have not already done so since the 6th March 2018) you will find it a lot easier to sort your own subscriptions, subscribe/unsubscribe and can now also put yourself on a temporary hold, such as when you go on holiday Changing email addresses is also much easier But if you don't register/re-register with Rootsweb (its not obligatory) you can still subscribe / unsubscribe as we used to (using the correct address of course) Go to the Rootsweb homepage http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Select Mailing Lists from the top bar menu Enter the list name in the Find a List search box Select that list from the following page (there may be more than one depending on what you used to search on) The following home page for that list will have the correct addresses to select for Subscribing, Unsubscribing and to contact the list owner There is also a link to take you to the list archives (which looks quite different from the old archives) NB to search *all* the lists archives together you need to start on the page where the Find a List search is ======================== Please remember to send posts to the list *from* the email address that you *subscribed* with I am receiving a few posts from people who may be subscribed but who are using a different address The new system does not allow a reason to be added to a rejected post Also please remember if you are a digest user, to either start a new email using the original subject line, or copy and paste the original subject line into your reply, and then delete all parts of the digest that are not relevant to your reply Thank you -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Currently it doesn't seem possible to sign in or create a new account. I've raised a query with Rootsweb & received the following reply - "Dear Sue, Thank you for contacting RootsWeb in regard to sign-up or login issue. We are sorry that you are encountering a problem with the site. We will do all that we can to answer your questions and assist you. Some areas of RootsWeb are currently offline. It is not currently possible to sign-in to the site, change passwords, or to create new accounts. We do not have a time frame available as to when these and other issues will be resolved unfortunately. We recommend that you access the link below for updated information as it becomes available: https://www.rootsweb.com/ We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience as we bring the different pieces of RootsWeb back online in a secure manner. If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us know. Kevin RootsWeb Support Team http://rootsweb.ancestry.com" One step forward & two back seems to be the plan! Sue in Notts -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 6:16 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Admin post on new system reminder Hi all I just wanted to remind all subscribers that we now have a new Mailman system for the lists There are several differences in the system Subscribe & Unsubscribe addresses are different (it now has *subscribe* in the address rather than the old *request*) If you register with Rootsweb (you need to re-register even if you were previously registered, if you have not already done so since the 6th March 2018) you will find it a lot easier to sort your own subscriptions, subscribe/unsubscribe and can now also put yourself on a temporary hold, such as when you go on holiday Changing email addresses is also much easier But if you don't register/re-register with Rootsweb (its not obligatory) you can still subscribe / unsubscribe as we used to (using the correct address of course) Go to the Rootsweb homepage http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Thank you -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Sue I asked the Rootsweb project manager about this and she replied to say that all new registrations, except for the mailing lists are not available for a while But for mailing lists see https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/accounts/signup/ NB if you are already signed in to Rootsweb it will look different to the sign in screen above, and will show your user id top right and this text below Mailing Lists Looking for a specific mailing list? Visit our index page of available mailing lists, where you can browse the complete set of mailing lists or search for a specific list by surname, location, or topic. Looking for mailing list archives? You can search all list archives or find a specific list to search only that list's archives. Please note that we are working hard to bring mailing list archives back online, but will not be finished for some time. Thus, searching archives does not currently return complete results. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/06/2018 17:37, sue.herrington9@gmail.com wrote: > Currently it doesn't seem possible to sign in or create a new account. > I've raised a query with Rootsweb & received the following reply - > > "Dear Sue, > Thank you for contacting RootsWeb in regard to sign-up or login issue. > We are sorry that you are encountering a problem with the site.  We will > do all that we can to answer your questions and assist you.  Some areas > of RootsWeb are currently offline.  It is not currently possible to > sign-in to the site, change passwords, or to create new accounts.  We do > not have a time frame available as to when these and other issues will > be resolved unfortunately. > We recommend that you access the link below for updated information as > it becomes available: > https://www.rootsweb.com/ > We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience as we > bring the different pieces of RootsWeb back online in a secure manner. > If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us > know. > Kevin > RootsWeb Support Team

Good Morning I have given up on Rootsweb ever bringing back the websites they supported so have developed a new website - nwdbysources.uk . Currently it seems to load the Home page rather slowly but fast enough between other pages. If anyone has ideas of why the site is loading slowly I would love to know. This is the first time I have published a new sources page in 20 years so have found it very mind expanding. Maybe it will keep Alzheimers at bay a little longer! Marjorie Ward, Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk

Hi Marjorie The Rootsweb project manager has said in the last week or so that the freepages are being worked on and should be available again in a matter of a few weeks Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 11:20, Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Good Morning > > I have given up on Rootsweb ever bringing back the websites they > supported so have developed a new website - nwdbysources.uk .  Currently > it seems to load the Home page rather slowly but fast enough between > other pages.  If anyone has ideas of why the site is loading slowly I > would love to know. This is the first time I have published a new > sources page in 20 years so have found it very mind expanding.  Maybe it > will keep Alzheimers at bay a little longer! > > Marjorie Ward, Derbyshire, UK

That’s good news. I was thinking about doing the same thing as Marjorie but it would mean rewriting multiple hyperlinks so I was hanging on for a bit longer. Alan Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 12:25:31 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: North West Derbyshire Sources Hi Marjorie The Rootsweb project manager has said in the last week or so that the freepages are being worked on and should be available again in a matter of a few weeks Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 11:20, Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Good Morning > > I have given up on Rootsweb ever bringing back the websites they > supported so have developed a new website - nwdbysources.uk . Currently > it seems to load the Home page rather slowly but fast enough between > other pages. If anyone has ideas of why the site is loading slowly I > would love to know. This is the first time I have published a new > sources page in 20 years so have found it very mind expanding. Maybe it > will keep Alzheimers at bay a little longer! > > Marjorie Ward, Derbyshire, UK _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

It is really a shame that these new Rootsweb owners did not receive any good advice from our original volunteer team on Rootsweb.... they did such a fine job. Regards, Edna - sunny Ottawa

Hi Edna I am not sure what you mean by "new Rootsweb owners" ? Rootsweb has been owned by Ancestry since 2000 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 13:36, liverpud wrote: > > It is really a shame that these new Rootsweb owners did not receive any > good advice > from our original volunteer team on Rootsweb.... they did such a fine job. > > Regards, > > Edna - sunny Ottawa

It was a good team Edna. I suppose not enough of us donated. Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk

Nivard As Edna says the original genealogy site was run by a group who relied on donations to fund the site. Unfortunately not enough of us donated and they had to sell to Ancestry. Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk

Hi Marjorie I am a little unsure why this has been brought up now to be honest Rootsweb was founded in 1993, and acquired by Ancestry in 2000, that is over 18 years ago, that is nearly three times as long as when it was in private hands Since acquiring Rootsweb its been free to all to use the lists, boards, freepages, worldconnect etc etc It was taken down at the end of last year due to a data breach so they could revamp the system which was long overdue for an overhaul anyway It was a long delay but a lot of problems came to light in swapping to new servers and upgrading to Mailman 3 for the lists, the old software had been patched up for years and it couldn't continue Plus the latest data protection issues needed to be taken into account and complied with The lists came back on the 6th March and still needed a fair amount of work to get them up and running as they should but are largely working as they should now Then the archives needed adding back (which again has caused yet more problems) Worldconnect was also brought back but only in a readable form so far The freepages we have been told are being worked on and should be up again in a few weeks all being well So yes the original Rootsweb was set up and run by donations but couldn't be run that way for ever, investment was needed and for 18 years its been running pretty well under Ancestry despite the nay sayers Personally I do not think any number of donations would have kept it running as investment was needed When Rootsweb was acquired by Ancestry there were oodles of doom mongers saying it would never last as a free site and it was only a matter of time that Ancestry would start charging, that was 18+ years ago By the way, to the best of my knowledge Rootsweb was never a non-profit organisation, it may have been funded by donation but was always a for profit organisation Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 15:00, Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Nivard > > As Edna says the original genealogy site was run by a group who relied > on donations to fund the site.  Unfortunately not enough of us donated > and they had to sell to Ancestry. > > Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK

I never realized that Ancestry was involved for all that length of time. As far as I know it is free, and they are/were such wonderful lists, which are so appreciated. Edna - Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 11:01 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: Derbyshire Sources, etc. Hi Marjorie I am a little unsure why this has been brought up now to be honest Rootsweb was founded in 1993, and acquired by Ancestry in 2000, that is over 18 years ago, that is nearly three times as long as when it was in private hands Since acquiring Rootsweb its been free to all to use the lists, boards, freepages, worldconnect etc etc It was taken down at the end of last year due to a data breach so they could revamp the system which was long overdue for an overhaul anyway It was a long delay but a lot of problems came to light in swapping to new servers and upgrading to Mailman 3 for the lists, the old software had been patched up for years and it couldn't continue Plus the latest data protection issues needed to be taken into account and complied with The lists came back on the 6th March and still needed a fair amount of work to get them up and running as they should but are largely working as they should now Then the archives needed adding back (which again has caused yet more problems) Worldconnect was also brought back but only in a readable form so far The freepages we have been told are being worked on and should be up again in a few weeks all being well So yes the original Rootsweb was set up and run by donations but couldn't be run that way for ever, investment was needed and for 18 years its been running pretty well under Ancestry despite the nay sayers Personally I do not think any number of donations would have kept it running as investment was needed When Rootsweb was acquired by Ancestry there were oodles of doom mongers saying it would never last as a free site and it was only a matter of time that Ancestry would start charging, that was 18+ years ago By the way, to the best of my knowledge Rootsweb was never a non-profit organisation, it may have been funded by donation but was always a for profit organisation Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Indeed Edna Rootsweb is still free and will continue to be From an update on Rootswebs home page dated Jan 23 2018 Is Ancestry going to start charging for RootsWeb? Ancestry is not going to start charging for RootsWeb. When functionality returns to the site, you will still be able to view content for free. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 16:14, liverpud wrote: > I never realized that Ancestry was involved for all that length of time. > > As far as I know it is free, and they are/were such wonderful lists, which > are so appreciated. > Edna - Ottawa

Hi Marjorie, Your home page is running slowly because you’re using .gif images. You need to change the file format to .jpg and replace them.. You can then test your site speed using: tools.pingdom.com <http://tools.pingdom.com/> That will give you other clues, but for the moment, the only issue it reports is those images. Martin > On 15 Jun 2018, at 12:20, Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Good Morning > > I have given up on Rootsweb ever bringing back the websites they supported so have developed a new website - nwdbysources.uk . Currently it seems to load the Home page rather slowly but fast enough between other pages. If anyone has ideas of why the site is loading slowly I would love to know. This is the first time I have published a new sources page in 20 years so have found it very mind expanding. Maybe it will keep Alzheimers at bay a little longer! > > Marjorie Ward, Derbyshire, UK > Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net > Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; > Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you Martin - I shall see if I can do that tomorrow. Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk