Hi everyone I have traced all my relatives with the exception of one. His name was James Ernest Mulligan and was born in 1889 Preston, Lancashire (on the Derbyshire side of the family Amy Dewsnap married my Grandfather John Bernard Mulligan. James Ernest disappears on the 1911 census and no death record anywhere in the country (on the 1911 census it was noted that 2 children had dies but these were James’s two sisters so he must have been alive in 1911). His brother my grandfather was in USA at this time and came back to UK to join the forces in 1914 when the war broke out. Does anyone have any ideas as to why I am not able to find this person? Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Brenda Brown South Africa

Glad you agree Marie - I use comments to add stories that don't fit into a regular category. I'm just hoping it sorts itself out soon. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Marie ball Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 4:04 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Ancestry comments I have been having the same problem with comments and have been getting round it by adding extra information to the details on the fact page under birth, baptism, etc but they won't take a long message. I haven't dared to try to edit a comment I have already written, in case that is deleted too. Marie in Cheshire _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I have been having the same problem with comments and have been getting round it by adding extra information to the details on the fact page under birth, baptism, etc but they won't take a long message. I haven't dared to try to edit a comment I have already written, in case that is deleted too. Marie in Cheshire

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I guess I have been lucky Carole = mine on my Dutch tree are all accurate! Not so much for the English tree! -----Original Message----- From: Carole Mason Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 1:52 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: Ancestry comments Hi Anne All the potential parents I've looked at so far were inaccurate - I've stopped looking. Carole On 24/06/2018 18:42, ANNE wrote: > Hi Nivard - I am entering the info under tools, then hit submit - it just > won't accept them. I think it is a glitch in the system. > I've noticed some enhancements too which I really like - i.e. potential > parents. Saves a lot of time! > > Thanks NIvard > Anne > > -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 1:28 PM > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DBY]Re: Ancestry comments > > Hi Anne > > If you bring up the person in the tree > > Top right is "Tools" > > Click that and you get "View Comments" > > Which also allows a comment to be submitted > > PS your post was held as it had an attachment, possibly you may have > sent it in rich text and it was a logo/signature or whatever, please use > plain text to make sure it gets to the list > > Thank you > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 24/06/2018 18:12, ANNE wrote: >> >> Has anyone noticed that you can’t add comments or notes to a tree >> recently? Does anyone know what the issue is and when it might be >> fixed? >> >> Anne in Hamilton, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

To be honest I haven't put any comments on for a while as they seem to be either ignored or get deleted So there may be a problem I am unaware of Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/06/2018 18:42, ANNE wrote: > Hi Nivard - I am entering the info under tools, then hit submit - it > just won't accept them.  I think it is a glitch in the system. > I've noticed some enhancements too which I really like - i.e. potential > parents.  Saves a lot of time! > > Thanks NIvard > Anne

Hi Anne All the potential parents I've looked at so far were inaccurate - I've stopped looking. Carole On 24/06/2018 18:42, ANNE wrote: > Hi Nivard - I am entering the info under tools, then hit submit - it > just won't accept them.  I think it is a glitch in the system. > I've noticed some enhancements too which I really like - i.e. > potential parents.  Saves a lot of time! > > Thanks NIvard > Anne > > -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 1:28 PM > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DBY]Re: Ancestry comments > > Hi Anne > > If you bring up the person in the tree > > Top right is "Tools" > > Click that and you get "View Comments" > > Which also allows a comment to be submitted > > PS your post was held as it had an attachment, possibly you may have > sent it in rich text and it was a logo/signature or whatever, please use > plain text to make sure it gets to the list > > Thank you > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 24/06/2018 18:12, ANNE wrote: >> >> Has anyone noticed that you can’t add comments or notes to a tree >> recently?   Does anyone know what the issue is and when it might be >> fixed? >> >> Anne in Hamilton, Ontario > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community

Hi Nivard - I am entering the info under tools, then hit submit - it just won't accept them. I think it is a glitch in the system. I've noticed some enhancements too which I really like - i.e. potential parents. Saves a lot of time! Thanks NIvard Anne -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 1:28 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: Ancestry comments Hi Anne If you bring up the person in the tree Top right is "Tools" Click that and you get "View Comments" Which also allows a comment to be submitted PS your post was held as it had an attachment, possibly you may have sent it in rich text and it was a logo/signature or whatever, please use plain text to make sure it gets to the list Thank you Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/06/2018 18:12, ANNE wrote: > > Has anyone noticed that you can’t add comments or notes to a tree > recently? Does anyone know what the issue is and when it might be fixed? > > Anne in Hamilton, Ontario _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Anne If you bring up the person in the tree Top right is "Tools" Click that and you get "View Comments" Which also allows a comment to be submitted PS your post was held as it had an attachment, possibly you may have sent it in rich text and it was a logo/signature or whatever, please use plain text to make sure it gets to the list Thank you Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 24/06/2018 18:12, ANNE wrote: > > Has anyone noticed that you can’t add comments or notes to a tree recently? Does anyone know what the issue is and when it might be fixed? > > Anne in Hamilton, Ontario

Has anyone noticed that you can’t add comments or notes to a tree recently? Does anyone know what the issue is and when it might be fixed? Anne in Hamilton, Ontario

Richard Yellott was baptised April 4 1725, two years after his brother Thomas, in Hope. Parents were John and Ann Yellot. I can find no record of Richard after this. I believe the family may have moved to Dronfield, Whitely Woods, or Frogget Edge, but I have no proof. Please can anyone help trace where Richard or Thomas and family settled? Margaret Switzerland

Hello, Its been many years since I used this forum and am just fishing around to try and get back into the family history, while Im on a break from uni. I am interested in finding the death or burial for Sarah SHORE and anything else about her family. Sarah was born Sarah GLOSSOP around 1788 (dont know where but would love to find out) and married George SHORE in CRICH 21 Oct 1805. Sarah's parents were Richard GLOSSOP and Dorothy WALKER of HOLLOWAY, CRICH. I have also visited the Crich web site so have all the info on the family from there. Sarah & George moved to DRONFIELD and had about 8 children, I think there might have been more. One child born in Fairfield could also be theirs but not confirmed yet. Im assuming Sarah may have died between having her last child around 1929 and the 1841 census as she was not listed. I have the family details from the 1841 census. I would also love to find out more about her father Richard GLOSSOP born about 1747 (according to his death in Crich) but from memory I needed to search some settlement certificates, which I dont have access to. I wondered if Mike's journey's had also revealed anything more about this lot but it seems I cant access the archives yet. Im also wondering if any new sites with access to free records have popped up since last researching (abt 5 years now). Any help would be most appreciated. Cheers,Kim May

Thanks to Nivard & Christine this now solved. Indeed Albert was ill. son of Mary MILNER who wed Henry DUDSON . Albert took the name DUDSON in 1901/1911 but reverted to MILNER by 1917. The 1939 Register also proved the DUDSON link as Albert’s daughter Eva MILNER was with grandparents Mary & Henry DUDSON. What a well-worth question to pose to the Derbyshire list who responded as usual. I am most appreciative Peter > On 22 Jun 2018, at 18:59, Christine Benson via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter and Nivard, > > When looking for Albert I found the baptism Nivard found but I couldn't find him in the censuses. However I found a suggested record for him naming him as Albert DUDSON. I also found him with this name in 1911. That suggests his mother Mary married Henry DUDSON. I cannot find a birth for an Albert DUDSON which would appear to confirm it. Henry and Mary had been married 20 years according to the 1911 census. A Henry DUDSON marries Mary MILNER in Q2 1895 so the 20 years is a convenient lie. > > Hope this helps > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 6:38 PM > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DBY]Re: Albert Milner b. 1891 > > Hi Peter > > Probably a typo but Mary E MILNER nee KNIGHTON has a date of birth 7th > March *1896* in the 1939 NIR > > This is I suspect his birth which is unfortunate as he appears to be > illegitimate > > MILNER, ALBERT - Order > GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 502 > > And a likely baptism > > St Lukes Derby > > 1897 > Sep 9 > Born June 13 1891 > Albert son of Mary MILNER > abode 134 Parliamnet st > (no occupation recorded) > RH CURRY Vicar > > You say you found two Albert MILNERs in the census, I could only find > the one born 1893 > > I will look further > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 22/06/2018 18:03, Peter Patilla wrote: >> Good afternoon >> Another stumbling block >> >> I have Albert MILNER (b.13 June 1891) married (1917 Derby) to Mary E Knighton (b.7 Mar 1891) >> >> I want to pick Albert up in the census so as to trace this line back >> >> However, there are two Albert MILNERS born in Derby about this time. One Albert MILNER (1891) and another (1893) >> >> In the 1911 and 1901 census there are a couple of Derby MILNERs but I am unsure as to which is which. I can hazard a guess but do not wish to. I wondered if they belong on anyone’s tree? >> >> Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

There is a Williamthorpe area/hamlet in North Wingfield. Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Richards" <ronstan@richardsbygonetimes.co.uk> To: "derbysgen" <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 1:27:30 AM Subject: [DBY]Re: Birth registration Ashover? Have you considered WILLIAMTHORPE as being the village - I have not lived in that area for many years but there was a colliery there, probably in my younger days, it was in the area on the Chesterfield to Mansfield road - oh and my home village was Palterton. Regards Jack Richards -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla [mailto:ppatilla@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 4:25 PM To: Family History Derbyshire Subject: [DBY]Re: Birth registration Ashover? Thank you Christine & Nivard I have ordered the William and Tryphena marriage cert to see if further light shines Peter > On 20 Jun 2018, at 14:04, Christine Benson via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Presuming Nivard's suggestion for his birth is correct he has a second name Henry. If you include that name in the search and are not too exact on birth year you will find him in later years. He appears to have married Tryphena HOLDEN in 1890 in Belper. This all needs confirmation as the name is fairly common. There is also at least one tree for him - but some trees are more myth than fact and I haven't checked this one. > > Hope this helps > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:53 AM > To: Derbysgen Derbyshire > Subject: [DBY]Birth registration Ashover? > > Good morning > > I am trying to tidy up a birth year for William BROWN son of Maria BOWN. I only have his birth year from census returns plus he disappears after 1881 and would like to "tidy him up” > > He was born William BROWN out of wedlock to Maria BOWN and in 1871 was at Bedlam Yard Wessington aged 5 (grandson) with Maria BROWN 28 (daughter) also Hannah MARRIOTT 7 (visitor) – no other household > [RG10 3608 49 7] > > In 1881he was William PATILLA (transcribed as PATILEA) aged 15 at Pot House Row, Crich. Whether George PATILLA ever married Maria BROWN is unknown but six children followed William. Again, whether George PATILLA was the father of William is unknown > [RG11 3415 16 25] > > After 1881 I loose him. Marriage? Death? > > So, all I have is born c1866 from the census. I was hoping to find this in the GRO records to at least more or less confirm the year of birth > Cannot find a baptism either although the family rather went for “batch” baptisms with children aged between 1 and 9! > > Where were ASHOVER births registered? Chesterfield? > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Peter and Nivard, When looking for Albert I found the baptism Nivard found but I couldn't find him in the censuses. However I found a suggested record for him naming him as Albert DUDSON. I also found him with this name in 1911. That suggests his mother Mary married Henry DUDSON. I cannot find a birth for an Albert DUDSON which would appear to confirm it. Henry and Mary had been married 20 years according to the 1911 census. A Henry DUDSON marries Mary MILNER in Q2 1895 so the 20 years is a convenient lie. Hope this helps Christine -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 6:38 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: Albert Milner b. 1891 Hi Peter Probably a typo but Mary E MILNER nee KNIGHTON has a date of birth 7th March *1896* in the 1939 NIR This is I suspect his birth which is unfortunate as he appears to be illegitimate MILNER, ALBERT - Order GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 502 And a likely baptism St Lukes Derby 1897 Sep 9 Born June 13 1891 Albert son of Mary MILNER abode 134 Parliamnet st (no occupation recorded) RH CURRY Vicar You say you found two Albert MILNERs in the census, I could only find the one born 1893 I will look further Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/06/2018 18:03, Peter Patilla wrote: > Good afternoon > Another stumbling block > > I have Albert MILNER (b.13 June 1891) married (1917 Derby) to Mary E > Knighton (b.7 Mar 1891) > > I want to pick Albert up in the census so as to trace this line back > > However, there are two Albert MILNERS born in Derby about this time. One > Albert MILNER (1891) and another (1893) > > In the 1911 and 1901 census there are a couple of Derby MILNERs but I am > unsure as to which is which. I can hazard a guess but do not wish to. I > wondered if they belong on anyone’s tree? > > Peter

Hi Peter Probably a typo but Mary E MILNER nee KNIGHTON has a date of birth 7th March *1896* in the 1939 NIR This is I suspect his birth which is unfortunate as he appears to be illegitimate MILNER, ALBERT - Order GRO Reference: 1891 S Quarter in DERBY Volume 07B Page 502 And a likely baptism St Lukes Derby 1897 Sep 9 Born June 13 1891 Albert son of Mary MILNER abode 134 Parliamnet st (no occupation recorded) RH CURRY Vicar You say you found two Albert MILNERs in the census, I could only find the one born 1893 I will look further Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22/06/2018 18:03, Peter Patilla wrote: > Good afternoon > Another stumbling block > > I have Albert MILNER (b.13 June 1891) married (1917 Derby) to Mary E Knighton (b.7 Mar 1891) > > I want to pick Albert up in the census so as to trace this line back > > However, there are two Albert MILNERS born in Derby about this time. One Albert MILNER (1891) and another (1893) > > In the 1911 and 1901 census there are a couple of Derby MILNERs but I am unsure as to which is which. I can hazard a guess but do not wish to. I wondered if they belong on anyone’s tree? > > Peter

Good afternoon Another stumbling block I have Albert MILNER (b.13 June 1891) married (1917 Derby) to Mary E Knighton (b.7 Mar 1891) I want to pick Albert up in the census so as to trace this line back However, there are two Albert MILNERS born in Derby about this time. One Albert MILNER (1891) and another (1893) In the 1911 and 1901 census there are a couple of Derby MILNERs but I am unsure as to which is which. I can hazard a guess but do not wish to. I wondered if they belong on anyone’s tree? Peter

Edge seems to be with Windows 10, have always used Firefox and will keep with them. Cheers, Edna - Ottawa

If you are having a problem viewing images with Edge, why use it ? Use Firefox or one of several other browsers instead Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21/06/2018 11:16, Joan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm slowly working through these images but I have an annoying thing happening when I view them in that my cursor disappears when I move over the image making it difficult to move to a different page etc. Before I contact Ancestry I wonder if anyone else has this problem or is it something to do with my computer and/or using Edge. > > thanks > > Joan

I have the same problem! I also use W10 and The Edge so difficult zooming in or moving to other images Helena My Bladon family history web site https://bladonfamilyhistory.wordpress.com From: Joan Sent: 21 June 2018 11:17 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Viewing Ancestry Derbyshire PR images in Edge Hi, I'm slowly working through these images but I have an annoying thing happening when I view them in that my cursor disappears when I move over the image making it difficult to move to a different page etc. Before I contact Ancestry I wonder if anyone else has this problem or is it something to do with my computer and/or using Edge. thanks Joan _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community