If anyone thinks they might want to see The Crown on NETFLIX, in the UK you can get a free months trial, and decide whether they do... > On 16 Jul 2018, at 19:36, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > You may be remembering my post in which I said I didn't recognise her name, but knew who she was from her picture > > I don't watch much TV, and don't have netflix so haven't seen any of the Crown but know that many liked it > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 16/07/2018 20:18, Margaret Siudek wrote: >> The ‘magic box’ is set to record it. >> I think there was a query on these pages about who Olivia Coleman was, before the last WDYTYA. It’s been in the press today that she’s about to start filming the older QUeen Elizabeth in the NETFLIX series- The Crown. Anyone who watched the earlier series with Clare Foy will know all about it. I found that interesting, as it included events I just about remembered from my childhood, and an adult perspective on them was intriguing. >> Margaret > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=zqiJelrnzOvsIKaZTQ8YCuuZ3PzBVMmCQeMosCnkXs4&s=pe76dCPmXF7o1lDSmJvSh4O2BqJnG9vU1fNqkzVuOzY&e= > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/derbysgen > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=zqiJelrnzOvsIKaZTQ8YCuuZ3PzBVMmCQeMosCnkXs4&s=dVmVEb9p0jY9LC-3LsEJFLP1z8r1zezZWZ-CQGkaW30&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=zqiJelrnzOvsIKaZTQ8YCuuZ3PzBVMmCQeMosCnkXs4&s=KoZKJVkpvNSSjGlEDJr6M0liN6jL6XxSHigPPdbt4pk&e= > Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=zqiJelrnzOvsIKaZTQ8YCuuZ3PzBVMmCQeMosCnkXs4&s=eitCP7e8P6Bn_h-DU522biicqv9qbJfDpUywgMCRhWI&e= > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

You may be remembering my post in which I said I didn't recognise her name, but knew who she was from her picture I don't watch much TV, and don't have netflix so haven't seen any of the Crown but know that many liked it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/07/2018 20:18, Margaret Siudek wrote: > The ‘magic box’ is set to record it. > > I think there was a query on these pages about who Olivia Coleman was, before the last WDYTYA. It’s been in the press today that she’s about to start filming the older QUeen Elizabeth in the NETFLIX series- The Crown. Anyone who watched the earlier series with Clare Foy will know all about it. I found that interesting, as it included events I just about remembered from my childhood, and an adult perspective on them was intriguing. > > Margaret

Olivia COLMAN was certainly enthusiastic if nothing else Perhaps a little of her occupation coming through ;-) But it was quite interesting I suspect Lee MACKs with will figure in tonights show Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/07/2018 20:13, Kathy Wadlow wrote: > Hi Nivard, > > Thank you for the reminder - I noticed it last week and watched. I enjoyed the programme very much, thought Olivia Colman was delightful and with an interesting background. > Looking forward to Lee Mack tonight, apart from the history , I wonder if his quick fire wit will feature in any way. > > Kathy > in Kent

The ‘magic box’ is set to record it. I think there was a query on these pages about who Olivia Coleman was, before the last WDYTYA. It’s been in the press today that she’s about to start filming the older QUeen Elizabeth in the NETFLIX series- The Crown. Anyone who watched the earlier series with Clare Foy will know all about it. I found that interesting, as it included events I just about remembered from my childhood, and an adult perspective on them was intriguing. Margaret > On 16 Jul 2018, at 19:00, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > > A wee bit late with a reminder (but then nobody noticed the last one ;-) > > WDYTYA with Lee MACK at 9pm 16th July > > > > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=lwQ035sr4rJXQ-7VyXJrtLF861RroYWPS9JNgW_2GWo&s=frMa5-zT25ow-PEa5ZZtqOrSGa9HLJWqymrHpQxYD1w&e= > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/derbysgen > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=lwQ035sr4rJXQ-7VyXJrtLF861RroYWPS9JNgW_2GWo&s=3C6SOIeg9dnPN1IJk0cWT2eszhR-voQdymfAq4nXsQg&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=lwQ035sr4rJXQ-7VyXJrtLF861RroYWPS9JNgW_2GWo&s=teDNsX9E3t_hvUiVPiDzhK0yhUgH_ZWBNAWMB3gWQo8&e= > Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=lwQ035sr4rJXQ-7VyXJrtLF861RroYWPS9JNgW_2GWo&s=AcoEiSit7jup9GGiiK3Iz-joMz9n8W3vn26Ju7vHXZE&e= > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Nivard, Thank you for the reminder - I noticed it last week and watched. I enjoyed the programme very much, thought Olivia Colman was delightful and with an interesting background. Looking forward to Lee Mack tonight, apart from the history , I wonder if his quick fire wit will feature in any way. Kathy in Kent Sent from my iPhone > On 16 Jul 2018, at 19:59, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > > A wee bit late with a reminder (but then nobody noticed the last one ;-) > > WDYTYA with Lee MACK at 9pm 16th July > > > > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=_6ojkaTSxQ16w-nJQeeuCpeU8r0Gty9MdlvwAflK2Rs&s=HfVsYdXSE94EBF3piOUHHK-ZqOQgWMvTy70Ih2vwAQg&e= > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/derbysgen > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=_6ojkaTSxQ16w-nJQeeuCpeU8r0Gty9MdlvwAflK2Rs&s=iLJjLCfrvYDvVttqJ8jK-ZtEocq9LojcRrbTJSxl87Q&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=_6ojkaTSxQ16w-nJQeeuCpeU8r0Gty9MdlvwAflK2Rs&s=fs_e4C-PLUCno9KwfInRssB8elfn3V3GRVYT9FZ8vc0&e= > Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=_6ojkaTSxQ16w-nJQeeuCpeU8r0Gty9MdlvwAflK2Rs&s=oDeDKimx-VFJsWFfRX1nwbxspA0FC8MmDR_7ud1jOHQ&e= > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

A wee bit late with a reminder (but then nobody noticed the last one ;-) WDYTYA with Lee MACK at 9pm 16th July -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I have a William Sidebotham born 9 Jun 1796. His parents were William and Mary. I find 2 marriages for William and Mary: William and Mary Hegginbottom in 1787 and William and Mary Barnes in 1792 I decided to see what children were born to William and Mary between 1787 and 1805. I came up with 7 children: *1790* Samuel 1792 Mary 1796 William 1798 Isaac 1800 John 1802 Betty 1805 Hannah My surprise was that all were christened at St Mary's Independent. Considering that there were two marriages, I "assumed" that the children would be christened in different locations. My question, do I assume that all of these children were born to Mary Hegginbottom as her marriage was the earliest? I looked for a burial in case Mary Hegginbottom died and Mary Barnes took her place, but I couldn't find anything. Thanks Teri Cleaveland ***** *Ps 37:4-7* *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__tcleaveland.lifevantage.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=haTGqVLF4kmnZL609ay-_fkwcTXyK18yxKvXmnUefIY&s=vPTfb8x27S5XzvdKPQ_XpHTbZAL6uDRsky0j6F_KCMw&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__tcleaveland.lifevantage.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=haTGqVLF4kmnZL609ay-_fkwcTXyK18yxKvXmnUefIY&s=vPTfb8x27S5XzvdKPQ_XpHTbZAL6uDRsky0j6F_KCMw&e=>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cleavelandindiansonline.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=haTGqVLF4kmnZL609ay-_fkwcTXyK18yxKvXmnUefIY&s=iixJuhJnlG1DO_dJPV4xUcxaO-HrMkLRKWDx6drxGj4&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cleavelandindiansonline.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=haTGqVLF4kmnZL609ay-_fkwcTXyK18yxKvXmnUefIY&s=iixJuhJnlG1DO_dJPV4xUcxaO-HrMkLRKWDx6drxGj4&e=>* *****

Hi Teri The banns of marriage were published 1st, 8th & 15th May 1763 at Hathersage Thomas BURDAKIN of Castletown parish and Mary SCHOFIELD of this parish They married at Hathersage 2nd June 1763 Thomas of Castleton and Mary otp Both signed the register Witnesses John BURDEKIN & Joseph RIDSDALE (neither appear to have signed other marriages as witness around the same time) Of the three baptisms, only one came up in a search of the parish registers on Ancestry 1st Jan 1848 Hope Mary dau of John & Rebecka SCHOFIELD Bradwell However browsing through the prs for Hathersage 27th Dec 1742 Mary dau of James SCHOFIELD of H?arpurlees? (hopefully someone will recognise the place as I don't) Derbyshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812, Hathersage p69 of 128 Eventually I found the one in Castleton, not that it helps greatly ;-) Baptised in the year 1747 at Castleton Apr 24 Mary daughter of Robert & Ann SCOFIELD The transcriptions of the Derbyshire PRs on Ancestry leave much to be desired Of the three the most likely would be the one in 1742, the other two would make her only 15 or 16 years of age PS I presume you received my reply to Lancsgen? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 12/07/2018 21:24, Teri Cleaveland wrote: > Searching for a cousin and I've found myself in Derbyshire for the first > time. > > My puzzle at the moment is that I have a Mary Schofield married to Thomas > Burdakin 2 Jun 1763 in Hathersage. All of their children seem to be born in > Hope. > > So, while looking for probable parents for Mary, I find 3 possibilities: > Chr: 27 Dec 1742 Hathersage father - James > Chr: 1 Jan 1748 (Birth-Bradwell) (Chr-Hope) Parents-John and Rebecca > Chr: 24 Apr 1747 Castleton Parents-Robert and Ann > > Because they were married in Hathersage, I thought maybe that would be > where she was born, but then because she has such strong ties to Hope, I > thought that was a possibility . > I don't have access to any images, not sure they would be any help. > > Ideas? > Thanks > > Teri Cleaveland

Your email caught my eye as I have the Mary Schofield born to John Schofield and Rebecca nee Burdikin in my tree and it i s her sister Hannah who is my ancestor. For some reason I haven't recorded my source though I remember seeing the Hope parish register. I will check it out later. Barbara Parker On 12 July 2018 at 21:24, Teri Cleaveland <bunnypurple51@gmail.com> wrote: > Searching for a cousin and I've found myself in Derbyshire for the first > time. > > My puzzle at the moment is that I have a Mary Schofield married to Thomas > Burdakin 2 Jun 1763 in Hathersage. All of their children seem to be born in > Hope. > > So, while looking for probable parents for Mary, I find 3 possibilities: > Chr: 27 Dec 1742 Hathersage father - James > Chr: 1 Jan 1748 (Birth-Bradwell) (Chr-Hope) Parents-John and Rebecca > Chr: 24 Apr 1747 Castleton Parents-Robert and Ann > > Because they were married in Hathersage, I thought maybe that would be > where she was born, but then because she has such strong ties to Hope, I > thought that was a possibility . > I don't have access to any images, not sure they would be any help. > > Ideas? > Thanks > > Teri Cleaveland > > > > ***** > *Ps 37:4-7* > > *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- > 3A__tcleaveland.lifevantage.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r= > YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SqLMsgjsyoFK4D- > b6Y36i5EVZQuEy30bf9GtE5Ys1XU&s=7RgmavFmSKbsy9Mfr19UvRMVVjiz8r > y8bbxS1ipSBLU&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http- > 3A__tcleaveland.lifevantage.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r= > YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SqLMsgjsyoFK4D- > b6Y36i5EVZQuEy30bf9GtE5Ys1XU&s=7RgmavFmSKbsy9Mfr19UvRMVVjiz8r > y8bbxS1ipSBLU&e=>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www. > cleavelandindiansonline.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r= > YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SqLMsgjsyoFK4D- > b6Y36i5EVZQuEy30bf9GtE5Ys1XU&s=fSriZzNw-4Bxv624ojiY16AXtRHAuphizOhlB- > auXNs&e= > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www. > cleavelandindiansonline.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r= > YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SqLMsgjsyoFK4D- > b6Y36i5EVZQuEy30bf9GtE5Ys1XU&s=fSriZzNw-4Bxv624ojiY16AXtRHAuphizOhlB- > auXNs&e=>* > ***** > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SpYyI0wiuUTR_NT8Mn4zFUhzaiNGXrtz7WnMat7nZ08&s=85EogZ9GSMhzzrzXGlknzdiMA1HTcH5a4lmBTxPziBE&e= > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailinglists.rootsweb&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SpYyI0wiuUTR_NT8Mn4zFUhzaiNGXrtz7WnMat7nZ08&s=lB2RlUGAP72en1aRBgtf1xzRcpnpGHSD35qH-Rk28eM&e=. > com/listindexes/search/derbysgen/ > > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SpYyI0wiuUTR_NT8Mn4zFUhzaiNGXrtz7WnMat7nZ08&s=ky8zSu9MRV2JH6K45L9f2E4zZXgVFN32-Al9eh7wGJg&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SpYyI0wiuUTR_NT8Mn4zFUhzaiNGXrtz7WnMat7nZ08&s=gTaJFENZ1RgQg8T1wXynpuZ8d3Y9cJ0TTRSLGJYtdBM&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SpYyI0wiuUTR_NT8Mn4zFUhzaiNGXrtz7WnMat7nZ08&s=QC78bClpN52l1cSh7Jj5YQ4S4BNU1PnOIpBCfWqiOiI&e= > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Searching for a cousin and I've found myself in Derbyshire for the first time. My puzzle at the moment is that I have a Mary Schofield married to Thomas Burdakin 2 Jun 1763 in Hathersage. All of their children seem to be born in Hope. So, while looking for probable parents for Mary, I find 3 possibilities: Chr: 27 Dec 1742 Hathersage father - James Chr: 1 Jan 1748 (Birth-Bradwell) (Chr-Hope) Parents-John and Rebecca Chr: 24 Apr 1747 Castleton Parents-Robert and Ann Because they were married in Hathersage, I thought maybe that would be where she was born, but then because she has such strong ties to Hope, I thought that was a possibility . I don't have access to any images, not sure they would be any help. Ideas? Thanks Teri Cleaveland ***** *Ps 37:4-7* *https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__tcleaveland.lifevantage.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SqLMsgjsyoFK4D-b6Y36i5EVZQuEy30bf9GtE5Ys1XU&s=7RgmavFmSKbsy9Mfr19UvRMVVjiz8ry8bbxS1ipSBLU&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__tcleaveland.lifevantage.com_&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SqLMsgjsyoFK4D-b6Y36i5EVZQuEy30bf9GtE5Ys1XU&s=7RgmavFmSKbsy9Mfr19UvRMVVjiz8ry8bbxS1ipSBLU&e=>https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cleavelandindiansonline.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SqLMsgjsyoFK4D-b6Y36i5EVZQuEy30bf9GtE5Ys1XU&s=fSriZzNw-4Bxv624ojiY16AXtRHAuphizOhlB-auXNs&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cleavelandindiansonline.com&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=SqLMsgjsyoFK4D-b6Y36i5EVZQuEy30bf9GtE5Ys1XU&s=fSriZzNw-4Bxv624ojiY16AXtRHAuphizOhlB-auXNs&e=>* *****

Look on the bright side Nick If they had them perfect we wouldn't have anything to do ;-) But yes it would help if there were more quality control But then again, I would rather have them now, warts n all ;-) than wait for the impossible to achieve perfect database Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 11/07/2018 15:36, Nick Higton wrote: > There are a lot of shortcomings in Ancestry's transcriptions of the > Derbyshire PRs, beyond the interpretation of handwriting as it to be > expected. > > Some of the titles of sets of data are just plain wrong - sometimes for > inexplicable reasons (as per your  comment below); sometimes because > they stopped transcribing at a chosen date (usually between 1900 and > 1920) but the images continue for many years thereafter, and sometimes > because there are a number of different record sets on the same film > that they copied (for completely disconnected parishes) and they assumed > that all the records on the film belong to the same parish. > > I posted a number of comments on this last year. > > I could excuse the errors made by the initial transcriber, but the lack > of a checking process feels very sloppy. > > Nick Higton > Higton Heritage

There are a lot of shortcomings in Ancestry's transcriptions of the Derbyshire PRs, beyond the interpretation of handwriting as it to be expected. Some of the titles of sets of data are just plain wrong - sometimes for inexplicable reasons (as per your comment below); sometimes because they stopped transcribing at a chosen date (usually between 1900 and 1920) but the images continue for many years thereafter, and sometimes because there are a number of different record sets on the same film that they copied (for completely disconnected parishes) and they assumed that all the records on the film belong to the same parish. I posted a number of comments on this last year. I could excuse the errors made by the initial transcriber, but the lack of a checking process feels very sloppy. Nick Higton Higton Heritage (researching the genealogy of the HIGTONs and related families) See my website: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__higton.one-2Dname.net_index.php&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=dvNbjg-tE_IS5LNUOWtKx_Pgno-xbKcCDHkm3Dcya-Y&s=FR0F2Cl3Nf00TkvRJAEnSSwCYk486nCrPggxN5mhktw&e= ------ Original Message ------ From: "Nivard Ovington" <ovington.one@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: 10/07/2018 09:28:02 Subject: [DBY]Re: Derbyshire PRs on Ancestry not transcribed. >Interesting find Nick > >The last marriage in that register was 7th July 1934 > >And the first in that register was Jan 9th 1915 > >So not very well titled as 1894 - 1912 ;-) > >Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >On 09/07/2018 22:30, Nick Higton wrote: >>Just a reminder that many of the more recent Derbyshire PRs, for which >>images are available on Ancestry, have not been transcribed but can >>be interrogated by other means. >> >>The following may also help new researchers to learn about the various >>online sources available to them. >>

Interesting find Nick The last marriage in that register was 7th July 1934 And the first in that register was Jan 9th 1915 So not very well titled as 1894 - 1912 ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/07/2018 22:30, Nick Higton wrote: > Just a reminder that many of the more recent Derbyshire PRs, for which > images are available on Ancestry, have not  been transcribed but can be > interrogated by other means. > > The following may also help new researchers to learn about the various > online sources available to them. >

Thanks Nick - interesting and informative. Andy. At 22:30 09/07/2018, you wrote: >Just a reminder that many of the more recent Derbyshire PRs, for which images are available on Ancestry, have not been transcribed but can be interrogated by other means. >...

Just a reminder that many of the more recent Derbyshire PRs, for which images are available on Ancestry, have not been transcribed but can be interrogated by other means. The following may also help new researchers to learn about the various online sources available to them. Today, I've been researching the life of William HIGTON, who appears in the 31 Mar 1901 census, aged 5 months, as the son of James and Elizabeth HIGTON - or was he? There is no relevant birth registered for William HIGTON, but there is a birth in the GRO index for a William Hickton ALLSOP in Belper R.D. In Q4 1900 with no mother's maiden name given, so he was probably illegitimate. Searching for evidence that this William was the adopted son of James and Elizabeth, I looked for a marriage, and found a few including one in Q2 1931 in Belper R.D. to Ellen E Jackson. There was nothing in the Ancestry indexes to expand on this but, on Find My Past, I found a snippet of a news item dated 12 June 1931 in the Ripley and Heanor News and Ilkeston Division Free Press that read "HEAGE HIGTON (South Wingfield)—JACKSON At St. Luke’a «?hutch, Heage, on Saturday, the Rector (Rev. O. A. Tindall) officiated at the marriage of Mr. William Higton, eon of Mr. and Mrs. J. Higton, of South Wingfield, and Miss . . .". That's as much as I could see without a subscription to FMP (I'll look at the page next time I'm in our local library), but it was enough to take me to the Heage PRs on Ancestry. Again, nothing in the Ancestry index but, by using the card catalogue to access the Heage PR images, and then going walkabout, I eventually found in the Marriages and Banns 1894-1912 (!) a marriage on 06 June 1931 between William HIGTON of South Wingfield, son of James Henry HIGTON, and Ellen Eliza JACKSON of Heage, daughter of Joseph JACKSON. I already knew that James Henry was the correct person to be William's (adoptive) father. William and Ellen then appear in the 1939 Register, in South Wingfield, with William's date of birth recorded as 12 Oct 1900. I then found a death in Q2 1975 in Derby R.D., for William Allsop HIGTON, who was born on 12 Oct 1900. So, it appears that the illegitimate child born William Hickton ALLSOP was adopted by James and Elizabeth HIGTON, and conveniently changed his name to William Allsop HIGTON. I could conjecture as to who his father was, but that would need more evidence that, maybe, will appear one day but is not there yet. Not definitive, maybe, but beyond reasonable doubt? That's for others to judge, but I'll accept it until proven otherwise.

Thanks, Nirvard, I shall look, I come across them earlier in the 1700s and have not done much with them yet. Hilary

Hi all This was posted by a David CLAY on a facebook page In case anybody has an interest in the surname Clay I have just launched a new website - clayofenglandsociety.co.uk There is a section for each county where Clay's lived in the past. If you have CLAY connections I am sure he would like to hear from you -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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OK will have another go - painful tooth notwithstanding !! :( ta Di On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 1:40 AM, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > Someone has just done a test for me > > Signing in with their usual user id and email address and they are able to > view records, they are not a current subscriber > > Are you using Ancestry.co.uk ??? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 08/07/2018 13:51, Balloon Expeditions wrote: > >> it allows you to look but if you want to look into the actual record they >> make you sign up with a credit card ! grh false advertising! >> >> Di McKee >> New Zealand >> > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=AOykEE3ey8KIAnB1M--wCRxwhmBRyUK6Yt-8sKhv3xA&s=Df_qG6z-PthQqG0upxI7WzBnGKjq4mgjiJBcVxknEbs&e= > > Unsubscribe and Archives https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mailinglists.rootsweb&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=AOykEE3ey8KIAnB1M--wCRxwhmBRyUK6Yt-8sKhv3xA&s=7629hVBBu_jIHpRbupEECNIkYeUPt6rcJ8wxbGOEaZk&e=. > com/listindexes/search/derbysgen/ > > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=AOykEE3ey8KIAnB1M--wCRxwhmBRyUK6Yt-8sKhv3xA&s=Q5K1bRSn1QVJR7eFVgHz0c5ocDFY4i6ANCRghSuagPc&e= Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=AOykEE3ey8KIAnB1M--wCRxwhmBRyUK6Yt-8sKhv3xA&s=RMWvyhHehsbPFVwZPflwnu5WV1hTOhkiRbMZ-GuD-q8&e= > > Rootsweb Blog: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rootsweb.blog&d=DwIBaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=AOykEE3ey8KIAnB1M--wCRxwhmBRyUK6Yt-8sKhv3xA&s=pyVsw5aBQ5Gd11q3MkQBaJHdFoRX8yUT3JzcQuAlicI&e= > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I agree with you Alan Only the earlier ones were yesterday Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/07/2018 15:11, Alan Bloor wrote: > Derbyshire parish registers are accessible now. Some of them definitely weren’t yesterday however. > > > > Alan