Brampton? -----Original Message----- From: Nick Higton Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:33 AM To: Derbyshire list Subject: [DBY]Derbyshire Place Name - Brafson? I'm stuck trying to decypher a Derbyshire birthplace in the 1851 and 1861 census, for Ann HIGTON born ABT 1817 and living in Radford NTT at these census dates. I'm sure it starts with a "B" and ends ""son", but the middle letters defeat me. It could be Brafson or Brasson, depending on whether an old-fashioned form of the double-s was used. She was Mary Ann GREGORY, married in Duffield in 1835 to John HIGTON, if that helps. Any ideas, please? _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=S_1Pg4AE2dqssTuHhCv3ONhTRr0MYbiDGbLSjjMJqfU&s=zGtwHaTz8uyOoX8nTec9NJ0DOrtHURNKA7udCJ56A1A&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=S_1Pg4AE2dqssTuHhCv3ONhTRr0MYbiDGbLSjjMJqfU&s=BDJoLN0TJl80Aneh9hSgt9pENqsBaMo3x5CNTnYYuJI&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=S_1Pg4AE2dqssTuHhCv3ONhTRr0MYbiDGbLSjjMJqfU&s=3yzxeQRqOvysyfXgi9nCHsmpuoMsTxvorZGC9K0AM3U&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Just checked my Brassington PR cd for baptisms and although there are Gregory's there isn't a baptism recorded for Mary Ann Gregory. Sent from Joan's iPad > On 11 Oct 2018, at 13:33, Nick Higton <nick@higton.co.uk> wrote: > > I'm stuck trying to decypher a Derbyshire birthplace in the 1851 and 1861 census, for Ann HIGTON born ABT 1817 and living in Radford NTT at these census dates. I'm sure it starts with a "B" and ends ""son", but the middle letters defeat me. > > It could be Brafson or Brasson, depending on whether an old-fashioned form of the double-s was used. > > She was Mary Ann GREGORY, married in Duffield in 1835 to John HIGTON, if that helps. > > Any ideas, please? > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=3ufBorcqQbvMCjfIxMOKKGtz-Xk7_oGo-sqAv_Us0vY&s=6iXcx-VksTv_HJa4pi8FJa4uheq8eCMO4m5CPdIhuQk&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=3ufBorcqQbvMCjfIxMOKKGtz-Xk7_oGo-sqAv_Us0vY&s=xjOeo3cvavfzFyJmeTVGWnLKDnDZbnXzUxrj1R07ngs&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=3ufBorcqQbvMCjfIxMOKKGtz-Xk7_oGo-sqAv_Us0vY&s=JUky5k0iUbWuGJo7GApKl94RabdS-jzVC9Xs3Avqcq4&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

? Brassington Sent from Joan's iPad > On 11 Oct 2018, at 13:33, Nick Higton <nick@higton.co.uk> wrote: > > I'm stuck trying to decypher a Derbyshire birthplace in the 1851 and 1861 census, for Ann HIGTON born ABT 1817 and living in Radford NTT at these census dates. I'm sure it starts with a "B" and ends ""son", but the middle letters defeat me. > > It could be Brafson or Brasson, depending on whether an old-fashioned form of the double-s was used. > > She was Mary Ann GREGORY, married in Duffield in 1835 to John HIGTON, if that helps. > > Any ideas, please? > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=Kggkj3B5sagKK7yk0E3HIVuoiNMFCV6S_GxfiiKpOWE&s=8muFxf6Cv2pU8509qBETx-z5gMw2jlhNEbPeeCrb8TM&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=Kggkj3B5sagKK7yk0E3HIVuoiNMFCV6S_GxfiiKpOWE&s=e_akPY65rxohawIHfIDyDTwvda0zEZGCM8dh52sO2Wo&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=Kggkj3B5sagKK7yk0E3HIVuoiNMFCV6S_GxfiiKpOWE&s=eGtQ3WNN9OTurOmNhvEZYuQxdaBpi1hkprGk_1vZjCA&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I'm stuck trying to decypher a Derbyshire birthplace in the 1851 and 1861 census, for Ann HIGTON born ABT 1817 and living in Radford NTT at these census dates. I'm sure it starts with a "B" and ends ""son", but the middle letters defeat me. It could be Brafson or Brasson, depending on whether an old-fashioned form of the double-s was used. She was Mary Ann GREGORY, married in Duffield in 1835 to John HIGTON, if that helps. Any ideas, please?

Hi Robert I do not think it has anything to do with your event I suspect the word is "Terrier" From OED 1. A register of landed property, formerly including lists of vassals and tenants, with details of their holdings, services, and rents; a rent roll; in later use: a book recording the site, boundaries, acreage, etc. of the lands belonging to a private person, or a civil or (now chiefly) an ecclesiastical corporation. Also: an inventory of property or goods. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 11/10/2018 11:56, Robert Wall via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I have a baptism record dated 14 Sept 1773 stating "12 day ferrier taken > on Sept 14" what is a ferrier please?

I imagine it's February. Fevrier is the French word for the month, and could easily be misread, if it's badly written. Why it might be written in French is another question! Margaret On 11/10/2018 11:56, Robert Wall via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I have a baptism record dated 14 Sept 1773 stating "12 day ferrier > taken on Sept 14" what is a ferrier please? > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=pg8ymEFDMKNV8m4pd1cGscng2FDnMWQYTafgPFtZgeQ&s=ncamzVv48ZBdQVhyRPYWm3FBB-2uTY-h3Oz_obFOcZw&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=pg8ymEFDMKNV8m4pd1cGscng2FDnMWQYTafgPFtZgeQ&s=s0x3IfR8Pd9NCeig7JKsn9_ZG1uQNMTRPLvCR-xJI_c&e=  Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=pg8ymEFDMKNV8m4pd1cGscng2FDnMWQYTafgPFtZgeQ&s=Gzr5xuKPtIlxLgg9gMqzcjvMWAC4P9E0tNpHqg0Pq0E&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avg.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=pg8ymEFDMKNV8m4pd1cGscng2FDnMWQYTafgPFtZgeQ&s=q6oT1Rio8bODdW4xNoIHjgzJVbBmR2TL5OW0dH0UuQI&e=

I have a baptism record dated 14 Sept 1773 stating "12 day ferrier taken on Sept 14" what is a ferrier please?

Hi Peter, I looked on Ancestry. The 1911 census there indexes the record you found as BEND. However there is a tree there showing Samuel as the son of Jacob Doxey BOND and Emily Fritche RICHARDS. That shows him married to Emma CROWDER, Oct 1910, Ashbourne. This appears to be a mismatched entry - looking up Emma shows the marriage as Macclesfield. And he appears to be on the 1911 census twice - the tree shows the entry for 1911 :- Name Samuel Bond Age in 1911 29 Estimated Birth Year abt 1882 Relation to Head Son Gender Male Birth Place Crick, Derbyshire, England Civil parish Bonsall Search Photos Bonsall, Derbyshire, England County/Island Derbyshire Country England Street Address Clatterway Bonsall Derbyshire Marital Status Married Occupation Quarryman Limestone Registration district Ashbourne Registration District Number 437 Sub-registration district Brassington ED, institution, or vessel 18 Piece 21054 Household Members Name Jacob Bond Age 47 Name Emily Bond Age 54 Name Samuel Bond Age 29 Samuel has 2 shown for number of years married and none for children. The surname CROWDER is confirmed as the mother's maiden name for the birth of Emily 1912 and Albert Jacob 1914 However Samuel, 1910 has the maiden name as ROBINSON (or BOWRING). However the tree has him dying in 1911 (I haven't checked) so could there have been 2 marriages and the first mother died as well? Or he doesn't belong to that family as would be assumed from the "none" for children above. Hope this helps Christine -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:33 PM To: Derbysgen Derbyshire Cc: Peter Patilla Subject: [DBY]Samuel Doxey Bond marriage? Good evening I am trying to log the wives of my WW1 men I have Samuel Doxey Bond (1881 – 1945) In 1901 unwed In 1911 at Crich: Samuel D Bond 29 quarryman (Bonsall) Emma Bond wife 31 (Crich) RG14PN20983 RG78PN1251 RD436 SD4 ED12 SN27 In 1939 on his own at New Cottages, Bakewell I would love to know who Emma was. Searching has defeated me. Does anyone have this guy on their radar? Peter

What I expected, glad you are of the opinion Thank you P Sent from my iPhone > On 10 Oct 2018, at 19:34, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter > > Despite his stating they had been married 6 years in 1911, like you I found no evidence of it > > In 1939 he is enumerated as single (rather than widowed) in a house with Emily HODGKINSON & Irene HODGKINSON (later WISE) > > Whilst it does depend on his telling the truth, in 1939 the enumerator was charged with entering the building and checking the details face to face, before issuing an identity card, so most were likely to tell the truth (given it was known that this same information would later be the basis of ration cards) > > Plus there are no deaths recorded between 1911 & 1939 for an Emma BOND of the right age anywhere in England or Wales > > Which suggests to me they were never married > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 10/10/2018 18:33, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Good evening >> I am trying to log the wives of my WW1 men >> I have Samuel Doxey Bond (1881 – 1945) >> In 1901 unwed >> In 1911 at Crich: >> Samuel D Bond 29 quarryman (Bonsall) >> Emma Bond wife 31 (Crich) >> RG14PN20983 RG78PN1251 RD436 SD4 ED12 SN27 >> In 1939 on his own at New Cottages, Bakewell >> I would love to know who Emma was. Searching has defeated me. >> Does anyone have this guy on their radar? >> Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=sTWSbA8_NV25rTmTsBc8gX0MQyHgK69nYFmWDKpkzPc&s=hG0e3AjSe52ugsAg8DiB2s8AQtVkucEGjV-DphGorFA&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=sTWSbA8_NV25rTmTsBc8gX0MQyHgK69nYFmWDKpkzPc&s=j_A-fiEgvmDt9V6C-2XiaJtlH8nCJfPrnjRBfMkIV4k&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=sTWSbA8_NV25rTmTsBc8gX0MQyHgK69nYFmWDKpkzPc&s=xkWzF8eLypYsTDQ_pyLUZ5I2PZBGuR_38nsxBJBR18Y&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Peter Despite his stating they had been married 6 years in 1911, like you I found no evidence of it In 1939 he is enumerated as single (rather than widowed) in a house with Emily HODGKINSON & Irene HODGKINSON (later WISE) Whilst it does depend on his telling the truth, in 1939 the enumerator was charged with entering the building and checking the details face to face, before issuing an identity card, so most were likely to tell the truth (given it was known that this same information would later be the basis of ration cards) Plus there are no deaths recorded between 1911 & 1939 for an Emma BOND of the right age anywhere in England or Wales Which suggests to me they were never married Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/10/2018 18:33, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Good evening > I am trying to log the wives of my WW1 men > > I have Samuel Doxey Bond (1881 – 1945) > > In 1901 unwed > > In 1911 at Crich: > Samuel D Bond 29 quarryman (Bonsall) > Emma Bond wife 31 (Crich) > RG14PN20983 RG78PN1251 RD436 SD4 ED12 SN27 > > In 1939 on his own at New Cottages, Bakewell > > I would love to know who Emma was. Searching has defeated me. > > Does anyone have this guy on their radar? > > Peter

Good evening I am trying to log the wives of my WW1 men I have Samuel Doxey Bond (1881 – 1945) In 1901 unwed In 1911 at Crich: Samuel D Bond 29 quarryman (Bonsall) Emma Bond wife 31 (Crich) RG14PN20983 RG78PN1251 RD436 SD4 ED12 SN27 In 1939 on his own at New Cottages, Bakewell I would love to know who Emma was. Searching has defeated me. Does anyone have this guy on their radar? Peter

Hi, Courtesy of DFHS I have a list of memorials Hognaston (compiled 1983) and also several photos of gravestones. I'm not sure if these would be of any interest to you. Joan On 09/10/2018 18:13:37, lr_mills@mauimail.com <lr_mills@mauimail.com> wrote: Hi, Derby geners, I have collected all the burial postings for Hognaston and added a few of my own extracts, so feel free to browse. Same thing for South Wingfield. Although I note that Cupid died in South Wingfield back in 1774, I hope that has not affected your romance too much. And, sadly, we have lost the Wikispaces listings of the Derbyshire War Memorials and all the names on them. I was able to preserve a couple before the site closed. Lou Mills (Genuki maintainer for DBY) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=AgsdPrVc4xUqjMOGsLhGc7TnmJXivWmpWLFLWnf_WqE&s=uyt0g1WcnsvXmLy81wPER6PW7IR6WI2W3hGN_a0WbqE&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=AgsdPrVc4xUqjMOGsLhGc7TnmJXivWmpWLFLWnf_WqE&s=dIW0j0a4O2DgAJKcW1OHCG4Lz6KO5xahyQcgA4hcBCY&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=AgsdPrVc4xUqjMOGsLhGc7TnmJXivWmpWLFLWnf_WqE&s=lwI2p7I8-FPr1VWzGzdHFcNupIgbFVP7WFwDK0NvmQA&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi, Derby geners, I have collected all the burial postings for Hognaston and added a few of my own extracts, so feel free to browse. Same thing for South Wingfield. Although I note that Cupid died in South Wingfield back in 1774, I hope that has not affected your romance too much. And, sadly, we have lost the Wikispaces listings of the Derbyshire War Memorials and all the names on them. I was able to preserve a couple before the site closed. Lou Mills (Genuki maintainer for DBY)

The term Lengthsman, coined in the 1700s, originally referred to someone who kept a "length" of road neat and tidy, but lengthsmen were used on canals and railways from the beginnings of both. Cheers, Edna - Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 3:53 AM To: Derbysgen Derbyshire Cc: Peter Patilla Subject: [DBY]Lengthsman? Good morning What was a lengthsman? In 1939 my Crich man worked for the council and I would like to know what he did. Just need to remove my ignorance. Peter

Good evening from my end of the globe. According to Google - The term*Lengthsman*, coined in the 1700s, originally referred to someone who kept a "length" of road neat and tidy, but*lengthsmen*were used on canals and*railways*from the beginnings of both. Cheers Cynthia Kimpton Tauranga, New Zealand On 9/10/2018 8:53 p.m., Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Good morning > What was a lengthsman? In 1939 my Crich man worked for the council and I would like to know what he did. > Just need to remove my ignorance. > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=IRDMsCyrZrN_rZJJdW7mXhP_Z0OnVrR5zFCb_QYZOYE&s=bZ9FtA02HbMPzOvzPt1eylQqamScNTH2rioN82VWXGE&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=IRDMsCyrZrN_rZJJdW7mXhP_Z0OnVrR5zFCb_QYZOYE&s=N5ArKPuxUmEDiS9AxS-hOH4CYFOKkclidDUypLRgSkE&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=IRDMsCyrZrN_rZJJdW7mXhP_Z0OnVrR5zFCb_QYZOYE&s=whXtKOGEeUPcktS3bZh8R3l2Fq7uZtS_WK8hqXPm0-g&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

Thank to to everyone who responded. As per usual the Derbyshire list solves “puzzles” I am happy going to bed tonight knowing more than I did when I woke up. This is my aim in life! Peter > On 9 Oct 2018, at 09:15, pabradshaw--- via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Peter, > > If he worked for the council then his likely job would be - > On roads, lengthsmen were responsible for a few miles between adjacent villages and sometimes their duties encompassed the village itself. Employed by local parish councils, their job was, among other things, to keep grass and weeds down in the verge, keep drainage ditches clear, and sometimes repair fences ... > > When we lived in a village in Cheshire, someone on the Parish Council said we needed a lengthsman to sweep the street. > > Prunella > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=UXvp5yy-bZTXKI2dqpgODhNx0NZpjXLjvJQ4oauhFiQ&s=SXMKWoD_M3W4dyJxP7DWKDM34i92Y2NiljpQAR6JE38&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=UXvp5yy-bZTXKI2dqpgODhNx0NZpjXLjvJQ4oauhFiQ&s=LlQ_lsalyCvVdqvaePeV51oyBYdqbjUaj3dgQhcAtdI&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=UXvp5yy-bZTXKI2dqpgODhNx0NZpjXLjvJQ4oauhFiQ&s=wohexzy5gXgW6shcItknO3z23h725uIPsFtueRIkcvs&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Peter, If he worked for the council then his likely job would be - On roads, lengthsmen were responsible for a few miles between adjacent villages and sometimes their duties encompassed the village itself. Employed by local parish councils, their job was, among other things, to keep grass and weeds down in the verge, keep drainage ditches clear, and sometimes repair fences ... When we lived in a village in Cheshire, someone on the Parish Council said we needed a lengthsman to sweep the street. Prunella

My great grandad was a Lengthman, he had a length of road from Holme on Spalding Moor towards Howden to look after, he cut the grass verges with a scythe, trimmed the hedges and cleared the dykes and dug the gulleys. I once watched him at work from my Great Uncle Billys horse and cart, whilst we were delivering provisions from the Coop. > On 9 Oct 2018, at 09:00, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter > > It sounded a tad dubious, but found there were 387 in the 1939 NIR > > One had the occupation to do with the LMS railway, so a google of railway and lengthsman found :- > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Lengthsman&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=TAhUPuQsrdJmoaaLCj3iQzpgtUhP6dviBmWoWHHZiR4&s=q3U3NCDcpeI1_DexE_m4arRf2J0DrPPBvfcIZXcYDOM&e= > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 09/10/2018 08:53, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Good morning >> What was a lengthsman? In 1939 my Crich man worked for the council and I would like to know what he did. >> Just need to remove my ignorance. >> Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=U1DMflhR2dim8GKe6iXsILdV-Zd1LMjpokAmSMlwDzQ&s=BGrwcv2Z3LVRpcw4rDacAHjf5aLL3-1n2MBeaq97zjc&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=U1DMflhR2dim8GKe6iXsILdV-Zd1LMjpokAmSMlwDzQ&s=dUo8jntSiZgvl2qu2RShMOaYi645QqxXBqqH_x-9IOM&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAg&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=U1DMflhR2dim8GKe6iXsILdV-Zd1LMjpokAmSMlwDzQ&s=8GUDzlE3Fzt1YZ260Wm33934aA4Jcz8Zvq7CZ2KENUA&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Although I failed to get a hit in the OED for Lengthsman I tried Length as I recalled using the term in a fishing sense, ie to describe a certain stretch of water on the canals But found a sub definition under length of :- lengthman n. a man appointed to maintain a certain stretch of road or railway; (the form lengthsman in quot. 1902 is an isolated use). Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 09/10/2018 09:00, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Peter > > It sounded a tad dubious, but found there were 387 in the 1939 NIR > > One had the occupation to do with the LMS railway, so a google of > railway and lengthsman found :- > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Lengthsman&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=c1N9d3ZZOPN0r-zgg6F4nUAkmIeOL0P_ixyKdmOXvho&s=YxQFce0BPrzVssVnKjMHLmW1TTzrwZ3t4-v91RsL45Y&e= > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 09/10/2018 08:53, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Good morning >> What was a lengthsman? In 1939 my Crich man worked for the council and >> I would like to know what he did. >> Just need to remove my ignorance. >> >> Peter >

sounds like a lovely job.... though it probably paid little! On 09/10/2018 09:00, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Peter > > It sounded a tad dubious, but found there were 387 in the 1939 NIR > > One had the occupation to do with the LMS railway, so a google of > railway and lengthsman found :- > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Lengthsman&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=TAhUPuQsrdJmoaaLCj3iQzpgtUhP6dviBmWoWHHZiR4&s=q3U3NCDcpeI1_DexE_m4arRf2J0DrPPBvfcIZXcYDOM&e= > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 09/10/2018 08:53, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Good morning >> What was a lengthsman? In 1939 my Crich man worked for the council >> and I would like to know what he did. >> Just need to remove my ignorance. >> >> Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=VO-ZGQfJ9EuPmgITBXwh13QTeL8Y_AANiCoSkoYdWjE&s=dGcNU-nlBpglFe-zAR02Wl8-ZIEyoiKXYsWMIwGqYE8&e= > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=VO-ZGQfJ9EuPmgITBXwh13QTeL8Y_AANiCoSkoYdWjE&s=YhEWsTQ-DIz-Soa4GsoppAZwv0Lxni8lRjJqWvGl19s&e=  Terms and Conditions: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=VO-ZGQfJ9EuPmgITBXwh13QTeL8Y_AANiCoSkoYdWjE&s=NWuYBib-iiGdmekaOIYvoqXvyS8q6vLCWE4pXwqn5qY&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avg.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=YaknIKGQ3o9fStB3h0sMI9MrdNSOVs352NJVvwA-IWw&m=VO-ZGQfJ9EuPmgITBXwh13QTeL8Y_AANiCoSkoYdWjE&s=IQpqJqvP0ROTwLLGepP1ugRvxBdG59dpqBUib72PN98&e=