Am 29.12.2012 14:29, schrieb Christine Simpson: > Hi All > > > > Wonder if anyone can help with two of my lost ancestors for whom I've been > searching for many years. They are brother and sister, Samuel Bullock and > Sarah Jane Bullock, both born Derbyshire, children of my 3x great > grandfather. > > > > Samuel Bullock is last seen on the 1881 Census living at 20 Bertha Street, > Sheffield, with his sister Mary Ann Twibell and her family. His age is > given as 41 but he was born 9 September 1837 at Holymoorside, Brampton, > Derbyshire. > > > > Sarah JaneBullock is last seen on the 1871 Census living at Spring Wood, > Sutton cum Duckmanton, Derbyshire also living with her sister, Mary Ann > Twibell and family. Her name is transcribed as Sarah Bulcach 24 dom serv > Unm B. Holeymoorside > > > > The Twibells were in Sheffield by 1881 with Samuel lodging with them but I > can find no evidence of his death in Sheffield nor can I find a marriage or > death for Sarah Jane. Any help to find what happened to these ancestors > of mine would be much appreciated! > > > > On the other hand I have just remembered, my mother mentioned living in Spring Wood as a child and that was betrween Arwright and Duckmantion, so they might be 2 different places. I have a photo of a little row of houses where they lived....(somewhere) but I will try and fish it out if you think that is the one. This would be in the early 20th Cebtury. Rita > > > > Christine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. > Von AVG uberpruft - www.avg.de > Version: 9.0.930 / Virendatenbank: 2637.1.1/5495 - Ausgabedatum: 12/29/12 08:33:00 >

Am 29.12.2012 14:29, schrieb Christine Simpson: > Hi All > > > > Wonder if anyone can help with two of my lost ancestors for whom I've been > searching for many years. They are brother and sister, Samuel Bullock and > Sarah Jane Bullock, both born Derbyshire, children of my 3x great > grandfather. > > > > Samuel Bullock is last seen on the 1881 Census living at 20 Bertha Street, > Sheffield, with his sister Mary Ann Twibell and her family. His age is > given as 41 but he was born 9 September 1837 at Holymoorside, Brampton, > Derbyshire. > > > > Hello Christine, I cant help you much but I have your mention of Spring Wood near Duckmanton, well, I think it may be "Sutton Spring Wood" which is between Calow and Arkright Town. I had an ancestor there and have been to look at that Wood. My mother came from Arkwright and my grandmother from Calow, grandfathrt from Duckmanton, the name was Watkinson. Rita in Germany > > > > Christine > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. > Von AVG uberpruft - www.avg.de > Version: 9.0.930 / Virendatenbank: 2637.1.1/5495 - Ausgabedatum: 12/29/12 08:33:00 >

Hi All Wonder if anyone can help with two of my lost ancestors for whom I've been searching for many years. They are brother and sister, Samuel Bullock and Sarah Jane Bullock, both born Derbyshire, children of my 3x great grandfather. Samuel Bullock is last seen on the 1881 Census living at 20 Bertha Street, Sheffield, with his sister Mary Ann Twibell and her family. His age is given as 41 but he was born 9 September 1837 at Holymoorside, Brampton, Derbyshire. Sarah JaneBullock is last seen on the 1871 Census living at Spring Wood, Sutton cum Duckmanton, Derbyshire also living with her sister, Mary Ann Twibell and family. Her name is transcribed as Sarah Bulcach 24 dom serv Unm B. Holeymoorside The Twibells were in Sheffield by 1881 with Samuel lodging with them but I can find no evidence of his death in Sheffield nor can I find a marriage or death for Sarah Jane. Any help to find what happened to these ancestors of mine would be much appreciated! Happy New Year to one and all. Christine

Hi Thank you to all the people who wrote to help me with finding my way back onto the lists.   I am steadily working my way through them but I am not so sure that I like this new method I liked the old IGI however, as it has gone the way of the dodo apparently, I will manage to manage. I have noticed that Ancestry appears to have a very strong hold over the whole thing, and as I was stupid enough to buy the 2012 disc I now have to wait until Jan 13 before being able to really work at the genealogy on Ancestry as my 'free' month only covers me for Canada and I need England and world wide.  Oh well such is life and we all learn, it is the last time I shall consider taking an upgrade. Once again thank you to everyone I really do appreciate your help. Best wishes Amy

Hi everyone, George HARTLEY married Mary WILCOCKSON on 21 Nov 1801 in Chesterfield, Dby Mary was baptised 22 Sep 1782 in Old Brampton and was buried there on 27 Jun 1809. I do not have George's birth/baptism or death, their four children were baptised in St Mary's Chesterfield (crooked spire), their fourth child Martha (my 2 x gr grandmother) was born 25 Nov 1807 in Walton and baptised in St Mary's, Chesterfield on 6 Jan 1808. After Mary's death George married Elizabeth WATTS 15 Jan 1810 in Chesterfield, they had two children both baptised in Chesterfield in 1811 and 1813. I have searched for 25 years for George, have found many George HARTLEYS north of the border around Sheffield, but, is one of them my George?, of course I have checked all George HARTLEY deaths in and around Chesterfield, he does not seem to appear on the 1841 Census or later ones. His son George born 5 Feb 1811 moved to London where he married, had children and died in 1887. Any help, suggestions greatly received, happy hunting Annette WATSON Lismore Australia

Thank you for the invitation Charani. My missing G.G.Grand uncle Isaac BUXTON, Christened 20th May 1816 in Clowne, first child of Thomas BUXTON and Catharine COTERILL who were married 6th November 1815 in Clowne. I have been unable to find anything about Isaac after his christening.. His younger brother Abraham Hayes BUXTON was christened in All Saints Church, Sculcoates, Yorkshire on the 26th of April 1818. Catharine died in November 1818 and was buried at St. Swithen's in East Retford on the 8th of November 1818 aged 21. Widower Thomas remarried on the 12th of July 1819 and he and his second wife, Martha BIRLEY, settled in East Retford and raised their family there, but, it seems, without his two sons from the previous marriage. My GGGrandfather Abraham Hayes re-surfaced in 1837 in Chesterfield living with his grandparents Samuel BUXTON and Amy HAYES.They lived there for the rest of their lives. The only options seem to be that Isaac died, or he was "adopted" by some other member of his parents families which resulted in an unrecorded name change. Unfortunately I have not been able to trace Catherine's origins either. All and/or any help to find Isaac would be a great start to 2013. A happy and rewarding new year to all. Mike, OZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charani" <charani.b@gmail.com> To: "Derbysgen List" <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:01 AM Subject: [DBY] Bringing home the lost and strayed > Season's greeting to all whether you have been celebrating Hanukkah or > are celebrating Christmas, Kwanzaa, Saturnalia or another fesitval. > > All of us have ancestors we cannot find, who've strayed or otherwise > become lost. So, from now until New Year's Day, post the names and > last known location, together with any other information you are sure > of, to give others a chance to try to find your missing ancestors. > > These lost and strayed souls do NOT have to be from our area. > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > >

Hi Barbara, Thank you very much for trying to help! This family is a real nightmare, it has taken me years to (almost!) sort them out. Unfortunately in the early days of my research I was not very good at recording where I found information!! Do you know if there are any missing sections of the 1891 census for Derby, as I cannot seem to find anyone! William Henry Horobin and Mary Newton must have been in Nottinghamshire in 1891, as their youngest son Frederick was born there in 1891...cannot find them on any census, however.. But they had returned to Derby by the 1901 census, possibly because Mary was ill, as she died in 1897. But I cannot find them on an 1891 census in either Derby or Nottingham. In fact I can't find any of the family on the 1891! Sarah Horobin was William Henry Horobin's mother (father unknown) but he was brought up by his grandparents as their "son" until he was an adult, when obviously he was told the truth. On the 1881 census, Sarah is still living with her widowed mother Mary, at 4 Hallams Yard, Morledge, aged 46, and working as a cotton warper. William Henry is now 24, working as a sawyer, and now put down as Mary's grandson, not son, still living at home. Can't find any of them on the 1891 census. On the 1901 census however, Sarah, claiming to be a widow aged 68, is living with her son William Henry Horobin, a foreman sawyer aged 45, grandsons William Henry Horobin, 20, a ropemakers clerk; Alfred Irvin Horobin, a 15 year old page boy at a club (my grandfather), and Frederick Thomas Horobin, aged 9. William Henry's wife Mary had died in 1897, so he obviously moved the family in with Mum. They were all living at Shot Tower Yard, Morledge. When Sarah died at the Derby Workhouse Infirmary, Derby, in 1911, the family was still living at Shot Tower House, Morledge, Derby. Sarah was said to be aged 70 ( should be 76) and was still working as an elastic weaver. Her grandson Frederick registered her death. I think they continued living there for some time, as I have my grandfather's Bible with that address inside. So, to answer your question, in 1891, Mary Newton (Horobin) was in Nottingham (but not on census). And I can't find where I got the info that Arthur was with his step granny!! I have it in my notes, but no proof. Very frustrating! Not sure if this helps or not, but I would appreciate your input! Regards Sally to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Amy,  I wonder if its the following site. that might help you        rootsweb.org Rootsweb also have this site                      familysearch.org Happy New Year  Mike Morris  Toronto Canada >________________________________ > From: June Spooner <sawleygal_75@hotmail.com> >To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:32:09 AM >Does anyone have any idea the name of the link that used to show the various bmd lists for free check-ups and also showed the parents of the person i.e christenings etc., along with the batch numbers. <snip> >

Hi I am returning to the genealogy after a break for a year or two and I am finding so many changes. I have tried the familysearch.org list and now find that it is very different. Does anyone have any idea the name of the link that used to show the various bmd lists for free check-ups and also showed the parents of the person i.e christenings etc., along with the batch numbers. I hope that everyone can head or tails of this letter as it has been sometime since I was involved with the genealogy Best wishes Amy

Hi I am returning to the genealogy after a break for a year or two and I am finding so many changes. I have tried the familysearch.org list and now find that it is very different. Does anyone have any idea the name of the link that used to show the various bmd lists for free check-ups and also showed the parents of the person i.e christenings etc., along with the batch numbers. I hope that everyone can head or tails of this letter as it has been sometime since I was involved with the genealogy Best wishes Amy

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My great grandmother MARY NEWTON (1852-1897) had three sons before getting together with my great grandfather, WILLIAM HENRY STANLEY HOROBIN. I cannot find a marriage for them. William and Mary then had three sons, including my grandfather, all of whom I have traced. The six boys obviously blended together early on, but I can only trace one Newton son, ARTHUR SWINFIELD NEWTON, (1876-1958), who married Lilia Tomlinson in 1900 and brought up a family in Derby. He was living with his step grandmother, SARAH HOROBIN, on the 1891 census, at the age of 15. Of the other two Newton boys, CHARLES EDWARD GIBSON NEWTON, born Derby 1873, and JOHN BASIL NEWTON, born Derby 1878, I can find nothing after the 1881 census. Were they in prison? Had they emigrated? They remain a mystery I would love to solve! Here's hoping someone can help! Happy New Year to all, and may all YOUR mysteries be solved! Sally in Sydney, Oz

Ashton on Mersey is an area in Sale, Cheshire. This is in the borough of Trafford. I used to live in Sale, Janet Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange -----Original Message----- From: Joy Hungerford <joyharp2010@hotmail.co.uk> Sender: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:05:11 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com<derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Phyllis Mary BIRCH b Somewhere on Mersey 1907 I'm intrigued by a little girl Phyllis Mary BIRCH, living with her uncle, Ben Henry POUNTAIN (who is also my GU) at 5 Traffic Terrace, Hasland, in 1911. She may, after all, be related to me. She was born at As*** on Mersey, Cheshire, in 1904, The enumerator of this schedule needs to be kept in to do it again, as there are  many silly errors on the page. I can't find a place which equates with 'As*** on Mersey' and although I've found a  little Phyllis Mary BIRCH, b OND 1906, Bucklow, CHS, I feel that it can hardly be described as 'on Mersey.' Please could someone, perhaps with local knowledge, tell me what this birthplace might be? Kind regards Joy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's really great! Many thanks to Kevin, Phil, Jayne, Mike and Pete, who solved my problem. I really appreciate their time and trouble. Kind regards Joy

Hi Sally Was trying to help on this one but can't even find the ones you have found! Where is Mary Horobin in 1891 and where is Arthur with his step granny. They are not coming up in my searches. Barbara -------------------------------------------------- From: "Sally Jackson" <sally.jackson@exemail.com.au> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 9:11 AM To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DBY] Newton brothers strayed from Derby > My great grandmother MARY NEWTON (1852-1897) had three sons before getting > together with my great grandfather, WILLIAM HENRY STANLEY HOROBIN. I > cannot > find a marriage for them. William and Mary then had three sons, > including > my grandfather, all of whom I have traced. > > The six boys obviously blended together early on, but I can only trace one > Newton son, ARTHUR SWINFIELD NEWTON, (1876-1958), who married Lilia > Tomlinson in 1900 and brought up a family in Derby. He was living with his > step grandmother, SARAH HOROBIN, on the 1891 census, at the age of 15. > > Of the other two Newton boys, CHARLES EDWARD GIBSON NEWTON, born Derby > 1873, and JOHN BASIL NEWTON, born Derby 1878, I can find nothing after the > 1881 census. > > Were they in prison? Had they emigrated? They remain a mystery I would > love > to solve! Here's hoping someone can help! > > Happy New Year to all, and may all YOUR mysteries be solved! > > Sally in Sydney, Oz > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, As the River Mersey was the county boundary between Lancashire and Cheshire and Ashton being south of the river, so in Cheshire. rergards pete in mansfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [DBY] Phyllis Mary BIRCH b Somewhere on Mersey 1907 Hi Joy, something else I saw was the following.. Historically, Sale was a township in the ancient parish of Ashton upon Mersey in the hundred of Bucklow and county of Cheshire. This means it was in Cheshire at one time. Mike Morris Toronto Canada >________________________________ > From: Joy Hungerford <joyharp2010@hotmail.co.uk> >To: "derbysgen@rootsweb.com" <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 10:05:11 AM >Subject: [DBY] Phyllis Mary BIRCH b Somewhere on Mersey 1907 > > >I'm intrigued by a little girl Phyllis Mary BIRCH, living with her uncle, >Ben Henry POUNTAIN (who is also my GU) at 5 Traffic Terrace, Hasland, in >1911. >She may, after all, be related to me. > >She was born at As*** on Mersey, Cheshire, in 1904, >The enumerator of this schedule needs to be kept in to do it again, as >there are >many silly errors on the page. > >I can't find a place which equates with 'As*** on Mersey' and although I've >found a >little Phyllis Mary BIRCH, b OND 1906, Bucklow, CHS, I feel that it can >hardly be described as 'on Mersey.' > >Please could someone, perhaps with local knowledge, tell me what this >birthplace might be? > >Kind regards > >Joy > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree it's Ashton Upon Mersey. Here's the Genuki page, Joy. Take care, Jayne http://www.craftsuprint.com/default.cfm?r=972366 http://ourancestraltrails.wordpress.com On 28 December 2012 15:05, Joy Hungerford <joyharp2010@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > I'm intrigued by a little girl Phyllis Mary BIRCH, living with her uncle, > Ben Henry POUNTAIN (who is also my GU) at 5 Traffic Terrace, Hasland, in > 1911. > She may, after all, be related to me. > > She was born at As*** on Mersey, Cheshire, in 1904, > The enumerator of this schedule needs to be kept in to do it again, as > there are > many silly errors on the page. > > I can't find a place which equates with 'As*** on Mersey' and although > I've found a > little Phyllis Mary BIRCH, b OND 1906, Bucklow, CHS, I feel that it can > hardly be described as 'on Mersey.' > > Please could someone, perhaps with local knowledge, tell me what this > birthplace might be? > > Kind regards > > Joy > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ashton on Mersey? -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Hungerford Sent: 28 December 2012 15:05 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Phyllis Mary BIRCH b Somewhere on Mersey 1907 I'm intrigued by a little girl Phyllis Mary BIRCH, living with her uncle, Ben Henry POUNTAIN (who is also my GU) at 5 Traffic Terrace, Hasland, in 1911. She may, after all, be related to me. She was born at As*** on Mersey, Cheshire, in 1904, The enumerator of this schedule needs to be kept in to do it again, as there are  many silly errors on the page. I can't find a place which equates with 'As*** on Mersey' and although I've found a  little Phyllis Mary BIRCH, b OND 1906, Bucklow, CHS, I feel that it can hardly be described as 'on Mersey.' Please could someone, perhaps with local knowledge, tell me what this birthplace might be? Kind regards Joy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joy It could well be Ashton on Mersey which id in Sale, South East of Manchester. Regards Phil -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Hungerford Sent: 28 December 2012 15:05 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Phyllis Mary BIRCH b Somewhere on Mersey 1907 I'm intrigued by a little girl Phyllis Mary BIRCH, living with her uncle, Ben Henry POUNTAIN (who is also my GU) at 5 Traffic Terrace, Hasland, in 1911. She may, after all, be related to me. She was born at As*** on Mersey, Cheshire, in 1904, The enumerator of this schedule needs to be kept in to do it again, as there are many silly errors on the page. I can't find a place which equates with 'As*** on Mersey' and although I've found a little Phyllis Mary BIRCH, b OND 1906, Bucklow, CHS, I feel that it can hardly be described as 'on Mersey.' Please could someone, perhaps with local knowledge, tell me what this birthplace might be? Kind regards Joy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm intrigued by a little girl Phyllis Mary BIRCH, living with her uncle, Ben Henry POUNTAIN (who is also my GU) at 5 Traffic Terrace, Hasland, in 1911. She may, after all, be related to me. She was born at As*** on Mersey, Cheshire, in 1904, The enumerator of this schedule needs to be kept in to do it again, as there are  many silly errors on the page. I can't find a place which equates with 'As*** on Mersey' and although I've found a  little Phyllis Mary BIRCH, b OND 1906, Bucklow, CHS, I feel that it can hardly be described as 'on Mersey.' Please could someone, perhaps with local knowledge, tell me what this birthplace might be? Kind regards Joy