A happy new year listers. For some time now I have been keeping a close watch on Mike Spencer's very valuable lists of burials, etc., looking for some references to my HIBBERT/HIBBERD familes, sadly without success. The HIBBERT/HIBBERD family were generally residing or centred on Edensor from at least 1755 until later than 1881. Some were employed on Chatsworth estate. From the somewhat little information I have been able to obtain of main events (baptisms, marriages, deaths), they did appear in the following villages as following: 1730 Duffield 1782 Tideswell 1788 Tideswell 1793 to 1798 Pilsley 1806 and 1830 Baslow 1844 Bakewell 1852 and 1866 Pilsley My branch of the HIBBERT/HIBBERDs came to Australia in the 1860's. The available records do not contain many references to the family name at all. It appears they may have dropped down from space about 1730 and remained until the 1860's (primarily at Edensor) before blasting off again, leaving behind my ancestor who came to Australia. Could any of the more experienced Derbyshire researchers suggest any sources, etc., that may provide more information on the family. It appears they arrived in Derbyshire from places unknown in about 1730, remained for about 130 years, then disappeared again. Any assistance would be gratefully received. Regards Len Heyward Mooroolbark, Victoria, Australia

Hi Rosemary, somebody else may beat me to it but otherwise I'll be happy to check for your HAWLEYs when I'm next at CLS which will be one day this coming week. However, I do need to mention that over the years cards from the Bestall's boxes have gone walkabout, unsurprisingly. I've had the same experience as you, finding gaps in dates where later I found entries in the PRs. As far as I'm aware, no-one has done a complete transcript of the entire PRs for St Mary's so we're left with the unfortunate reality that the original PRs have to be checked even though we have Bestall's index up to 1812. The good news I guess is that DRO are going to digitise all the PRs so Chesterfield St Mary should be accessible online one day. Regards, Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK On 13 January 2013 11:05, Rosemary Probert <rosemary@rprobert.co.uk> wrote: > Some time ago I managed to obtain photographs of all the HAWLEY entries > from Bestall's Card Index of Chesterfield parish registers from the > Local Studies Library. > > However, I have subsequently found several entries for HAWLEY/HAULEYs in > FamilySearch which are not on the copies I have. > > Could some very kind soul have a look when they are at the library and > see if I'm missing a card for 1638-1644? > > Many thanks, > > Rosemary > Northumberland UK > > Email: rosemary@rprobert.co.uk > Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ > Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Some time ago I managed to obtain photographs of all the HAWLEY entries from Bestall's Card Index of Chesterfield parish registers from the Local Studies Library. However, I have subsequently found several entries for HAWLEY/HAULEYs in FamilySearch which are not on the copies I have. Could some very kind soul have a look when they are at the library and see if I'm missing a card for 1638-1644? Many thanks, Rosemary Northumberland UK Email: rosemary@rprobert.co.uk Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/

Hi 'geners, more Boylestone. BOYLESTONE BURIALS 1874-1878 20 Feb 1874 Mary MILWARD Tutbury? 67 17 Nov 1874 Cecilia GELL Tutbury 65 20 Nov 1874 Thomas CHAWNER Lichfield 73 31 Jan 1875 Thomas APPLEBY Boylestone 34 11 May 1875 Sarah NASH Boylestone 76 6 Sep 1876 Edwin Arthur FAULKNER Boylestone 5m 27 Oct 1876 Henry MOSELEY Boylestone seven and a half months 5 Mar 1877 Myra BROWN Boylestone 11 18 Jul 1877 Mary ADAMS Boylestone 51 6 Oct 1877 Ann Adams LESTER Boylestone 19 2 Nov 1877 Edward SAINT Boylestone 60 6 Nov 1878 William RICHARDSON Boylestone 69 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

now to Boylestone BOYLESTONE 1871-1873 19 Mar 1871 George BRADSHAW Boylestone 13 wks 30 Jul 1871 George HELLABY Boylestone 4 days 30 Jul 1871 Hannah LESTER Boylestone 47 30 Aug 1871 John BAKEWELL Boylestone 34 3 Oct 1871 Eliza Elizabeth BRADSHAW Boylestone 5m 2 Apr 1872 Ann MAULBOURNE Boylestone 76 23 Aug 1872 Martha GELL Tutbury 65 6 Sep 1872 Henry DAKIN Boylestone 61 16 Feb 1873 Sarah ROE Boylestone 5 wks 22 Feb 1873 George ALCOCK Church Broughton 72 13 Mar 1873 Joseph BYFIELD Boylestone 57 10 Jun 1873 Mary MILWARD Boylestone 61 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Breadsall again. BREADSALL BURIALS 1841 1 Jan 1841 Mary TURNER Breadsall 18 4 Jan 1841 Samuel MOORE Breadsall 8m 11 Feb 1841 Isaac MOORE Breadsall inf 12 Apr 1841 Ellen HOLLINGWORTH Morley 47 3 May 1841 Ann TOWLE Breadsall 70 8 May 1841 Thomas WALKER Breadsall 59 16 May 1841 Frances TURNER Breadsall 57 12 Jun 1841 Hannah MATHER Spondon 73 14 Jun 1841 John COWLEY Breadsall 20 3 Jul 1841 Herbert ENSOR Breadsall 2 28 Aug 1841 Sarah SLATER Breadsall 2 29 Aug 1841 Sarah WALKER Breadsall 74 11 Sep 1841 Maria ROWBOTTOM Nottingham 35 insane 2 Dec 1841 Francis RADFORD Breadsall 52 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

now to Pentrich PENTRICH BURIALS 1841 Apr-Dec 17 May 1841 Sarah STOCKS Hartshay 17 26 May 1841 Samuel WALTERS Pentrich 55 28 Jun 1841 Hepzibah WELSH Butterly 57 24 Aug 1841 Margaret BRITTAIN Tupton 21 24 Aug 1841 Sarah TOPHAM Pentrich 38 1 Sep 1841 Joseph GODBER Wire Mill 3 9 Oct 1841 Peter HENSTOCK Heage 19 31 Oct 1841 Ann ASTON Ripley 5 15 Nov 1841 Elizabeth TURNER Ripley 77 18 Nov 1841 John COOPER Golden Valley 2 26 Dec 1841 Emily WILDERS Pentrich 3 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

I have found a need to look at marriages at Wilne from about 1770 to 1820. I'm interested in signatures and witnesses. Unfortunately the familysearch records for Wilne are all from the BT's so its no use hiring the films from Salt Lake. The DRO has the years I am after (with some gaps) in their PR catalogue. Can anybody tell me if they have the original PR's on microfiche or otherwise available for viewing? I remember viewing other PR's during a visit in 2010 and will be visiting Matlock again later this year. Cheers Darryl Sydney Australia

D & A Smedley wrote: > I have found a need to look at marriages at Wilne from about 1770 to > 1820. I'm interested in signatures and witnesses. Unfortunately the > familysearch records for Wilne are all from the BT's so its no use > hiring the films from Salt Lake. > > The DRO has the years I am after (with some gaps) in their PR catalogue. > Can anybody tell me if they have the original PR's on microfiche or > otherwise available for viewing? Hallo Original PRs are available on fiche. That has been the case as every record office I've visited. The LDS did them. I don't understand why they only have the BTs. I've been able to see the actual registers themselves when the image is too poor to be read. It is an archivist decision. Connie in London

Hello, We have had donated @ Bluebell Wood Childrens Hospice, A family Bible for the above family, if it is of any interest please contact me first entry is William Bonsall born Jan 19th 1837 Sommercotes Regards Sue Brown on behalf of BBWCH

more Denby, remember Mildred? DENBY BURIALS 1843 1 Jan 1843 Catherine HUNT Denby 68 15 Jan 1843 Mary BROWN Denby 82 25 Jan 1843 Sarah TROTH Denby 70 28 Jan 1843 Sarah RADFORD Denby 29 9 Feb 1843 William CAULTON Staright Lane inf 21 Feb 1843 Joseph CAULTON Denby 65 16 Apr 1843 Elizabeth WESTON Denby no age given 16 Apr 1843 Henry SMITH Denby 20 7 Jun 1843 John BARBER Higham 51 24 Jun 1843 John MOORE Denby 80 1 Jul 1843 Mary HUNT Codnor 67 21 Jul 1843 Rebecca HALL (HALE?) Denby 49 22 Jul 1843 Elizabeth HARRISON Denby 49 24 Jul 1843 Mary PALFREYMAN Denby 80 8 Aug 1843 John BARBER Strype Farm Denby 44 18 Oct 1843 William HUNT Denby 69 16 Nov 1843 Jane SMITH Salter ? Wood inf 24 Nov 1843 Sarah HUNT Kilburn 72 26 Nov 1843 Thomas BROWN Denby 78 30 Nov 1843 Mildred Ann POUNDALL Park Hall Denby 46 18 Dec 1843 Mary HUNT Denby 64 21 Dec 1843 Mary BROWN Denby 61 plus 28 Jan 1844 John NORRIS or LEWIS (sic) a stranger supposed to have come from Norwich 67 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hello all It has taken twenty years but, with a little help from my friends, I've 'found' my Great-aunt Cis nee RATCLIFFE and husband Ted SPENCER in Vancouver, Canada. Not only that but beforehand I also uncovered 3 cousins and a sister who also emigrated, mainly to Ontario! One cousin Ada BLACKHURST nee RATCLIFFE, was lost on the Empress of Ireland disaster in 1914 coming back to Belper for a family visit. I've made contact with several 3rd cousins who are descendants of Elizabeth GILL nee RATCLIFFE, sister Ada (above) and cousin Arthur RATCLIFFE. My Great-Aunts Bertha HUDSON (dau of Thomas RATCLIFFE and Louisa nee BRADSHAW of Harrison St, Derby) married Edward Henry Hudson (son of William Herbert HUDSON and Selina nee ??) in 1900 and emigrated to Canada in Sept 1913 to join Edward with her 4 children. She died in February 1914 from pneumonia and her husband remarried Harriet JEWELL another expat. Child Henry Hudson died in a tragic accident involving a freight train in 1920 at the tender age of 8. I haven't found any living cousins to the surviving children Edward 1900, Leonard c1902 and Ethel c1904 but do have a copy of the wedding certicate of Leonard to Elsie ROACH 17/2/1928. Does anyone recognise the names?? As for Cis &Ted I NOW know that she was Emily RATCLIFFE (dau' of Thomas RATCLIFFE AND Louisa BRADSHAW) and she joined Edwin (!) SPENCER (son of Ernest SPENCER and Harriet nee GRICE also of Harrison St, derby) in Halifax, NS in March 1915 and married him the next day. They then seem to have settled in Brandon, Manitoba (1916 Canadian census) and I have record of Lawrence Gordon SPENCER being born there in Aug 1916. A daughter Edna was born sometime before this as I know she was the eldest. The family moved to BC sometime and I believe I've found Cis's death in Vancouver on 24/7/1949 aged a young 58. Two more children Gordon and Thelma were born and I believe I've found both boys in Vancouver in various voters lists. Does anyone recognise THESE names? In the course of these discoveries I've realised that the Ratcliffe family, children of William and Mary nee Nightingale suffered the loss of so many of their family in the course of the second decade of the 1900s! Bertha HUDSON 13 Feb 1914 -Toronto Ada BLACKHURST May 1914 - in sinking of Empress of Ireland Louisa RATCLIFFE Feb 1916 - Derby Infirmary William RATCLIFFE 14 Feb 1916, Flanders - son of Louisa and brother of Bertha and Cis Henry HUDSON May 1920 - Toronto ........just the ones I've pinned down so far! I know death was not an unusual visitor especially during the War but my ancestors must have wondered what they'd done to deserve such loss!! So there you have it! Please get in touch if you recognise any of the above families. Andrea Newham

Searching for more information about Hannah PURSGLOVE born Goatcliff (1851 and 1861 Census) who married William COTTON in 1808 in Baslow and had 8 children by him in Ashover between 1811 and 1832. William died pre 1841. Hannah's occupation in the Censuses is given as 'School Mistress'. I understand that there was an endowed free-school for poor children, founded 1605, and '3 small schools' in Ashover at this time - according to 'Parochial Returns made to the Select Committee appointed to inquire into The Education of the Poor: 1818' in House of Commons Papers pub by Google Books. I've found in another volume (The English Cyclopedia: Geography, pub 1854) that a second school was built in Ashover by the Rector in 1846 for the education of girls. These school buildings could still be in existence. However, Hannah COTTON's name does not appear in Trade Directories or Gazeteers although the Headteacher in the endowed school is. Please, can anyone shed any light on education in Ashover in the mid 19thC? Is it likely that Hannah was teaching in her own 'Dames School'? I believe that Hannah COTTON may well have been buried in Ashover. She died in the JAS qr 1868. Have MIs been published on the web re Ashover? If she has a gravestone I might find a little more about her there. I have not found an obituary for her on The British Library newspaper website. I would welcome any further pointers. Ruth

now to Denby DENBY BURIALS 1842 23 Jan 1842 Patrick FLETCHER Denby 52 3 Mar 1842 Ann CRESSWELL Smithy Houses 50 8 Mar 1842 Ann PYM Denby 42 12 Mar 1842 George CRESSWELL Denby 7 17 Apr 1842 Samuel HUNT Denby 8 4 May 1842 Sarah WOODHOUSE Denby 52 10 May 1842 Sarah BROWN Denby 34 29 May 1842 Hannah CRESSWELL Denby 14 15 Sep 1842 Stephen CRESSWELL Denby 38 5 Oct 1842 Mary Ann BROWN Straight Lane Pentrich inf 4 Dec 1842 Samuel WOOD Smithy Houses Denby 38 18 Dec 1842 Thomas BUTLER Denby 13 30 Dec 1842 Francis CRESSWELL Denby 70 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

now to Boylestone. BOYLESTONE BURIALS 1870 10 Jan 1870 Anne HARRISON Boylestone 55 13 Jan 1870 Ann HOPKINS Derby 62 20 Mar 1870 Sarah BECK Boylestone 68 15 Apr 1870 George DAKIN Boylestone 76 20 Oct 1870 Joseph LESTER Boylestone 38 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi 'geners, more from Tissington TISSINGTON BURIALS 1870 16 Jan 1870 Emma FROGGATT Tissington 21 16 Jan 1870 Eliza FROGGATT Tissington 19 23 Jan 1870 John FROGGATT Tissington 7 24 Feb 1870 Stephen WOSENCROFT Tissington 18 12 Mar 1870 William FLETCHER Tissington 72 2 Apr 1870 Ellen WARREN Tissington 3 wks 23 May 1870 Mary Ellen Redfern HODGKINSON Tissington 8m 4 Jun 1870 Clara Jane SMITH Tissington 6 8 Jun 1870 Ellen ROBINSON Tissington 71 29 Jun 1870 Anne Edensor PHILLIPS Tissington 12 2 Jul 1870 Emma DAKIN Tissington 18 13 Jul 1870 Francis HARDY Bradbourne 81 14 Jul 1870 Charlie Edensor PHILLIPS Tissington 4 6 Aug 1870 John ROSS Wood Eaves 32 6 Oct 1870 Frank REDFERN Tissington 13 28 Dec 1870 Henry HILL Tissington 17m mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Oops -I am getting confused with all these Hannah Bonsalls. I have five in my database. Hannah (b abt 1795 Monyash) was a daughter of John BONSALL and his wife Timminson SMITH. This Hannah was a first cousin of the Jane BONSALL who married Samuel OATES. Hannah (b abt 1818 Monyash) was a daughter of Joseph BONSALL and his wife Elizabeth FARMER. This Hannah was a niece of the Jane BONSALL who married Samuel OATES.

more from Tissington TISSINGTON BURIALS 1869 28 Jan 1869 Martha ALLSOP Tissington 89 31 Jan 1869 Ann SMITH Tissington 68 4 Feb 1869 Elizabeth ALLSOP Tissington 78 13 Feb 1869 Ann HARDY Thorpe 84 3 Oct 1869 Elizabeth ROSS WoodEaves 3 30 Oct 1869 Dorothy FROGGATT Wood Eaves 17 28 Nov 1869 Arthur ALLCOCK Wood Eaves 11 19 Dec 1869 Eliza Ann HARDY Wood Eaves 15m 26 Dec 1869 Frederick MEEKIN Wood Eaves 9m mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi Adele Hannah (b abt 1795 Monyash), daughter of Joseph BONSALL and his wife Elizabeth FARMER, was a niece of the Jane BONSALL who married Samuel OATES. Jane of course had a brother Joseph BONSALL who married Elizabeth WHITE -this couple, who feature frequently in the book 'Dear Sister' had a daughter Hannah born 1861. Hannah HAWLEY (b abt 1795 Monyash) married (1816 Bakewell) Peter BONSALL. This Peter BONSALL and the Jane BONSALL who married Samuel OATES were first cousins. I don't know how this Hannah, the wife of Peter BONSALL, was related to the Hannah HAWLEY who married (1850, Monyash) Thomas BONSALL. Maybe she was an aunt. ________________________________ From: Adele Pentony-Graham <porcupine07@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 6 January 2013, 0:36 Subject: [DBY] hannah bonsall there was a lady with this name whose parents were Joseph and Elizabeth Bonsall... Bonsall farmed at Monyash. 1860s.. maybe related to one in question.. its in the book, Dear Sister about Jane Bonsall marrying Samuel Oates. -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher.           and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

there was a lady with this name whose parents were Joseph and Elizabeth Bonsall... Bonsall farmed at Monyash. 1860s.. maybe related to one in question.. its in the book, Dear Sister about Jane Bonsall marrying Samuel Oates. -- Adele Pentony-Graham Carterton Cemetery Clareville Researcher Carterton Researcher. and Featherston. WW1. Cemetery.