That's a very interesting comment, John, thank you very much. I shall keep my eyes open for a first wife Catherine as I progress further backwards through the Duffield Fee records for Biggin (I'm back to the 1660s so far), and look at available Wills. At present, we theorise that George (who married Agnes, possibly Catherine first) was the son of John and Amy WILCOCKSON. I have 9 children for them, taken from Wills. Do you know anything about that family by any chance? Regards, Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK On 20 January 2013 18:15, John Palmer <johnpalmer@wirksworth.org.uk> wrote: > Hello Celia, > Is it possible that Agnes MADDOCK married George WILCOCKSON 1622 as his > second wife? > A Catherine died in 1622 may have been his first wife, see > www.wirksworth.org.uk/PR103.htm#2265 > The Wirksworth Parish Register from which these records are transcribed > begins about 1606, > when George was 21 and possibly already married. > Regards, > John Palmer, Dorset, England > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

We had the first episode last Sunday here in Ontario. It was focused on the house - not the village. Episode 2 starts in 1/2 an hour! It is a 3 part series and very well produced. I didn't realize that Chatsworth had a staff of 700! Anne in Hamilton, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: mike spencer Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:28 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] CHATSWORTH for those with Edensor ancestors watch CHATSWORTH next week on BBC 1 . Should get a nice view of the village, from what I saw of the preview.. mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Celia, Is it possible that Agnes MADDOCK married George WILCOCKSON 1622 as his second wife? A Catherine died in 1622 may have been his first wife, see www.wirksworth.org.uk/PR103.htm#2265 The Wirksworth Parish Register from which these records are transcribed begins about 1606, when George was 21 and possibly already married. Regards, John Palmer, Dorset, England

Listers perhaps remember that I've asked a few times about WILCOCKSONs in Derbyshire. I've now published a post to my blogsite which sums up the reasons for chasing WILCOCKSONs and progress made so far. www.morgansite.wordpress.com. It turns out that there weren't all that many Derbyshire descendants from the families that lived in Biggin near Wirksworth, and the most plentiful WILCOCKSON line was in West Riding of Yorkshire, then Lancashire, where several more generations were Quakers. It would be great to hear from anyone else chasing WILCOCKSONs. Regards, Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK

What a wonderful collection of old Mellor names! Mr Jowett of Lower Hall was a local landowner. The land on which my house stands was leased from his descendant's widow. Saml Pickford was presumably an ancestor of the Sam Pickford who farmed the land behind where I now live. Mr (Samuel) Oldknow was the man who brought the cotton industry to Mellor in 1790. And was Jas Walklate a descendant of the Thomas Walklate (d 1637) who gave Mellor its first school and founded the Walklate Educational Trust? Geoff Heath (Mellor) -----Original Message----- From: mike spencer Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:45 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] MELLOR OLD SEAT WAGE 1824 Hi list, again from Mellor "Old Seat wage", pew rent? Mr JOWETT Lower ? Hall 8d Jas and Saml PICKFORD 4d Mr STANNEY Ashes 1s Mr STANNEY Damside 4d Mr STANNEY Birchenhough 6d Thomas STANNEY Knowl Thomas OLDHAM Heathy B 1s William STANNEY Holly Wood 8d Samuel WOOD Holly Wood End 6d Samuel RATCLIFFE Holly Wood End 4d Mr Thomas LEES Marple Bridge 4d Mr OLDKNOW Marple 1s George and Ralph FERNS L Lane 2s 8d Ralph FERNS jnr L Lane 6d Ralph FERNS Lane Head 8d Mr TOMLINSON Wermorht 1s Mr OLDHAM Tarden 8d John POTT Clough 4d Josh UNWIN Linen Clough 4d Mr OLDKNOW Windl Bottom 1s Mr OLDKNOW Bridge End 6d Mr OLDKNOW Strawberry Hill 6d James WARDLE Green Clough 6d James WARDLE Broad Carr 3d Wm STORER Drake Car 3d Jas WALKLATE Drake Car 3d Wm MARSHALL Banks 6d Mr MOULT Lower Cliffe 6d Mr MOULT Higher Cliffe 6d Mr MOULT Lily Bank 9d Thomas OLERENSHAW Birchgh 6d Ralph HYDE Short Fields 9d Mr TOMLINSON Shaw 1s Wm TOMLINSON Bull Hill 6d John SAVILL Snape Hey 6d Jas ARNFIELD Longsh Clough 6d Henry KELSALL Podnor 1s William STANNEY Hill Top 9d Jer WILLIAMSON Hamb Fold 1s Jno COOPER Chat Lane 8d Thomas COOK Chat Lane 6d Danl LINDSEY Horsepool 6d Anthy PLATT Worthingtons 4d mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hello Mike and Eric First Mike - thank you for these - I am looking at how I can add them to the website. Also Ralph HYDE is one of mine. Eric - I wondered if these were all properties owned by Sam OLDKNOW. Strawberry Hill, for example is in the same area as his industrial estate. best wishes Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for Hollingworths www.hollingworths.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk John Ward Paintings: www.johnward-art.com

Mike's post about Mellor gravestones includes: Mr OLDKNOW Windl Bottom 1s. Samuel OLDKNOW was a local industrialist and entrepreneur but this may be another member of his family .... there are several OLDKNOWS on Mike's list. This location could be Windy Bottom which is now known as Roman Bridge over the river Goyt on an old packhorse route. The change of name is down to the Victorians who thought the old name rather vulgar. Eric Millward

Hi list, again from Mellor "Old Seat wage", pew rent? MELLOR Mr JOWETT Lower ? Hall 8d Jas and Saml PICKFORD 4d Mr STANNEY Ashes 1s Mr STANNEY Damside 4d Mr STANNEY Birchenhough 6d Thomas STANNEY Knowl Thomas OLDHAM Heathy B 1s William STANNEY Holly Wood 8d Samuel WOOD Holly Wood End 6d Samuel RATCLIFFE Holly Wood End 4d Mr Thomas LEES Marple Bridge 4d Mr OLDKNOW Marple 1s George and Ralph FERNS L Lane 2s 8d Ralph FERNS jnr L Lane 6d Ralph FERNS Lane Head 8d Mr TOMLINSON Wermorht 1s Mr OLDHAM Tarden 8d John POTT Clough 4d Josh UNWIN Linen Clough 4d Mr OLDKNOW Windl Bottom 1s Mr OLDKNOW Bridge End 6d Mr OLDKNOW Strawberry Hill 6d James WARDLE Green Clough 6d James WARDLE Broad Carr 3d Wm STORER Drake Car 3d Jas WALKLATE Drake Car 3d Wm MARSHALL Banks 6d Mr MOULT Lower Cliffe 6d Mr MOULT Higher Cliffe 6d Mr MOULT Lily Bank 9d Thomas OLERENSHAW Birchgh 6d Ralph HYDE Short Fields 9d Mr TOMLINSON Shaw 1s Wm TOMLINSON Bull Hill 6d John SAVILL Snape Hey 6d Jas ARNFIELD Longsh Clough 6d Henry KELSALL Podnor 1s William STANNEY Hill Top 9d Jer WILLIAMSON Hamb Fold 1s Jno COOPER Chat Lane 8d Thomas COOK Chat Lane 6d Danl LINDSEY Horsepool 6d Anthy PLATT Worthingtons 4d mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, "An account of Grave Stones Laid down at Mellor Church" Taken from a parish book. 30 Oct 1824 Chas MELLISON of Stockport double 12/6 5 Nov George HARROP Whitle 10/- double 29 Nov James POTT Mellor single 5/- 30 Nov John POTT Mellor single 5/- 5 Mar George BOOTH Hyde Church 15/- 2 Apr John SIMPKINS New Mills single 5/- 15 Apr William ASHTON Mill Brow single 5/- 1 Jul Thomas BROCKLEHURST Hollins Double 10/- 17 Jul widow BURTON New Mills single 5/- 12 Sep John HENSHAW Sand? Hill single 5/- 24 Dec Samuel BOWDEN Marple Bridge single 5/- uncertain as to year of above, may be all 1824 or parts of both 1824 and 1825. 8 May 1846 George FRANCE Bacum Cheshire s.stone 5/- 22 May 1846 William WYATT Thornsett w. grave 1/1/- 15 Jun 1868 memo that Thomas BARBER of Longhurst Lane in Mellor being on the point of leaving England has given his grave to his son in law Robert GERRARD of Longhurst Lane aforesaid. mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi, My great Grandmother was Sarah Ann Foster (born 1846) First married toThomas Dye but after he died she married my Gt Grandfather Frederick William Fairburn/Fairbarnes in 1873 and they had 3 children - Philip, William Thomas and Hannah Mary. When Frederick Fairburn died she married again to Daniel Purdy at Mansfield in 1883. Sarah Ann died in 1906 at Shirebrook. I have always been fascinated by Sarah Ann, and would love to know more about her or even find a photograph. If anyone out there has connections to Sarah Ann I would love to hear from you, and I am willing to give you what information I have about her if you are connected. Regards, Lin

Hello Celia, Thank you very much for looking for me and braving the elements! > there was no card there for 1638-44. However, > with that only being six years, perhaps there were no HAWLEY events > in that period? There are some recorded in FamilySearch. And, as the cards also include other details and burials, I was hoping there would be one for those years. Keep warm, Rosemary, Northumberland On 19/01/2013 08:39, Celia Renshaw wrote: > Hi Rosemary, I made into Chesterfield Local Studies yesterday before the > snow fell too heavily and had a look at the HAWLEY index cards (I also > checked possible variants) - there was no card there for 1638-44. However, > with that only being six years, perhaps there were no HAWLEY events in that > period? > > Cheers, Celia Renshaw > in Chesterfield UK

Hi Rosemary, I made into Chesterfield Local Studies yesterday before the snow fell too heavily and had a look at the HAWLEY index cards (I also checked possible variants) - there was no card there for 1638-44. However, with that only being six years, perhaps there were no HAWLEY events in that period? Cheers, Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK On 13 January 2013 11:05, Rosemary Probert <rosemary@rprobert.co.uk> wrote: > Some time ago I managed to obtain photographs of all the HAWLEY entries > from Bestall's Card Index of Chesterfield parish registers from the > Local Studies Library. > > However, I have subsequently found several entries for HAWLEY/HAULEYs in > FamilySearch which are not on the copies I have. > > Could some very kind soul have a look when they are at the library and > see if I'm missing a card for 1638-1644? > > Many thanks, > > Rosemary > Northumberland UK > > Email: rosemary@rprobert.co.uk > Family History: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rprobert/ > Banburyshire Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcbanb/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi list, just a few Repton gathered one late evening before the axe fell. REPTON BURIALS 1851- 14 Jun 1851 Richard SMITH Repton 19 7 Jul 1851 Dorothy SMITH Repton 79 22 Nov 1851 Mary Ellen SMITH Repton 1y 5m 24 Nov 1851 William SMITH Repton 70 3 Jul 1852 Hannah SMITH Repton 42 13 May 1853 John SPENCER Bretby 76 29 Oct 1856 Elizabeth POUNTAIN Milton 30 14 Apr 1859 Harriet SPENCER Bretby 8 26 May 1859 Dorothy SMITH Bretby 75 3 Aug 1859 Mary Smith HEWGILL Repton 40 26 Jul 1866 Sarah SPENCER Bretby 90 17 Sep 1868 Thomas SPENCER Repton 80 28 Feb 1869 Alice EATON Pilsley 22 14 Apr 1869 Joseph EDWARD Aberdare Glamorgan Cwm-Bach 55 11 Jul 1871 Henry SPENCER Bretby 14 11 Aug 1872 Henry Thomas SPENCER Repton 23 3 Feb 1874 John SPENCER Bretby 68 25 Oct 1874 Emma SMITH Bretby inf 8 Mar 1877 William SPENCER Bretby 68 22 May 1878 Walter Smith HALBARD Repton 1 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Thanks a lot, Mike. I'll check it out. Thanks as well for your postings - I always look forward to the ones on my patch!! Kind regards Joy > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 17:50:09 +0000 > From: mikedecc9@sky.com > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DBY] Lee[s] Hall Farm or Lea Hall Farm, Church Broughton or Boylestone > > OS Map shows it on Marjory Lane, south of Harehill. > > mike >

Hello Mike, if you come across Ellis or Hemingray, I would greatly appreciate it. Though my ancestor, William Hemingray was born in Belper in 1827, apparently the family had ties to Repton in earlier days. I learned this recently from a distant cousin, but have yet to prove the links. Thanks, Bev W -----Original Message----- From: mike spencer <mikedecc9@sky.com> To: derbysgen <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 18, 2013 2:32 pm Subject: [DBY] REPTON BURIALS 1851 78-mixture Hi list, just a few Repton gathered one late evening before the axe fell.REPTON BURIALS 1851-14 Jun 1851 Richard SMITH Repton 197 Jul 1851 Dorothy SMITH Repton 7922 Nov 1851 Mary Ellen SMITH Repton 1y 5m24 Nov 1851 William SMITH Repton 703 Jul 1852 Hannah SMITH Repton 4213 May 1853 John SPENCER Bretby 7629 Oct 1856 Elizabeth POUNTAIN Milton 3014 Apr 1859 Harriet SPENCER Bretby 826 May 1859 Dorothy SMITH Bretby 753 Aug 1859 Mary Smith HEWGILL Repton 4026 Jul 1866 Sarah SPENCER Bretby 9017 Sep 1868 Thomas SPENCER Repton 8028 Feb 1869 Alice EATON Pilsley 2214 Apr 1869 Joseph EDWARD Aberdare Glamorgan Cwm-Bach 5511 Jul 1871 Henry SPENCER Bretby 1411 Aug 1872 Henry Thomas SPENCER Repton 233 Feb 1874 John SPENCER Bretby 6825 Oct 1874 Emma SMITH Bretby inf8 Mar 1877 William SPENCER Bretby 6822 May 1878 Walter Smith HALBARD Repton 1 mike-- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OS Map shows it on Marjory Lane, south of Harehill. mike On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Joy Hungerford <joyharp2010@hotmail.co.uk>wrote: > > This farm appeared in 1861, with my 2GGU as farmer. > I can't find a consistent spelling for it, nor a consistent location. > > > In 1881, John is still a farmer (in Boylestone) but the farm has no name. > There may be several farmers working the land which was Lea Hall, or > variant. > > > Please could someone with local knowledge tell me where it is and how it's > spelt, > as it seems it is there today. > > > BTW, I've spent years trying to link my husband with the HUNGERFORD family > of > Farleigh Hungerford, WIL. Amazingly enough, this week, I've made a > connection with > my own Derbyshire STANLEY family, as a HUNGERFORD daughter (Anne HASTINGS) > married > Thomas STANLEY, my 1C13R, in 1505. > > > Does this mean M and I are distant cousins? Watch this space! > > > > Kind regards > > > Joy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

This farm appeared in 1861, with my 2GGU as farmer.  I can't find a consistent spelling for it, nor a consistent location.    In 1881, John is still a farmer (in Boylestone) but the farm has no name. There may be several farmers working the land which was Lea Hall, or variant. Please could someone with local knowledge tell me where it is and how it's spelt,  as it seems it is there today. BTW, I've spent years trying to link my husband with the HUNGERFORD family of   Farleigh Hungerford, WIL. Amazingly enough, this week, I've made a connection with my own Derbyshire STANLEY family, as a HUNGERFORD daughter (Anne HASTINGS) married  Thomas STANLEY, my 1C13R, in 1505. Does this mean M and I are distant cousins? Watch this space! Kind regards Joy

Hello Mike The New Mills factories were situated along the river, being water powered originally. This was only a short walk from Low Leighton. best wishes Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for Hollingworths www.hollingworths.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk John Ward Paintings: www.johnward-art.com

now to Great Longstone GREAT LONGSTONE BURIALS 1859 1 Feb 1859 Ann HEYWOOD Longstone 70 2 Feb 1859 Margaret ROBINSON Wardlow no age given 12 Feb 1859 Matthew FURNISS Longstone 89 27 Feb 1859 Elizabeth HEYWARD Longstone 14 21 Mar 1859 Hannah Jane HEYWARD Longstone inf 9 Apr 1859 Jane SWIFT Little Longstone 74 8 May 1859 Rachael TURNER Cressbrook 13 17 May 1859 Jonathan MORTON Longstone 27 22 May 1859 William WILSON Little Longstone 60 7 Jun 1859 John TURNER Wardlow no age given 12 Jul 1859 George HULLEY Great Longstone 87 27 Jul 1859 Mary SKIDMORE Longstone 36 18 Aug 1859 Jonathan HULLEY Sheffield 29 9 Sep 1859 John ALSOP Wardlow 96 19 Oct 1859 Merina SMITH Hassop 7 wks 22 Oct 1859 Sarah EYRE Workhouse 6 28 Oct 1859 Kitty HAYWOOD Longstone 70 14 Nov 1859 Reuben WAGER Longstone 6 30 Nov 1859 Elizabeth ASHTON Longstone 10 3 Dec 1859 Agnes ASHTON Longstone 9 14 Dec 1859 Charles MORTON Longstone 20 7 (sic) Dec 1859 Sarah BOTTON Longstone 66 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

now to Ashbourne before the snow comes. ASHBOURNE ST OSWALD BURIALS 1833 Jun 5 Jun 1833 Elisabeth GOODWIN Market Place 96 9 Jun 1833 Edwin PIDCOCK St John Street 27 11 Jun 1833 Benjamin HOWARD St John Street 21 12 Jun 1833 John CANTRELL Sturston 15 14 Jun 1833 John WILLIAMS Back Lane 57 17 Jun 1833 Mary COCKRAM Sturston Lane 66 26 Jun 1833 Elisabeth HOWARTH St John Street 65 10 or 16 (sic) Jun 1833 Elisabeth SMITH Poor House 80 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm