Looking for Samuel MILLINGTON birth about 1777 of Barlow,Derbyshire. In 1851 census was aged 74. He was married to Elizabeth BOTTOMLEY on 9 May 1811 at Sheffield Cathedral. Elizabeth was born about 1782 I believe in Sheffield Parents John BOTTOMLEY (about 1753)and Ann ELLIS (about 1755) also Sheffield. I have some more people to ask help for but lets see if anyone can please help me with these 2 people first. Thanks you very much Barry Millington from Canada

Hi I have some Brocksops in my Tree, the first is a John Brocksop born C1788 All Saints Derby - according to the 1851 census. I'd be interested to know if he fits in with any of the Brocksops discussed here as I haven't been able to get any further back with him. Frances

Janet Thanks for that. I have a copy of the Will of Henry BROCKSOPP , my 7G grandfather, though not his brother Edmunds. I will have to go on looking. Jenny -----Original Message----- From: Janet Booth Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 11:05 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com ; DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] letter B - BROCKSOPP Hello Jenny, There are 3 BROCKSOP(P) baptisms for the period 1610-1623 at Chesterfield to an Edward/Edmund BROCKSOPP, unfortunately not one for a Henry, although Henry does appear to be one of the forenames used within the Chesterfield BROCKSOPPs so perhaps worth further investigation. Lichfield Record Office Online Wills Index (www.staffsnameindexes.org.uk/StartPage.aspx?) have quite a few BROCKSOP(P) wills including one for a Henry BROCKSOPP of North Wingfield, Yeoman dated 1707 (one of your Henry's sons??) and that of an Edmund BROCKSOP of North Wingfield, yeoman dated 1719. It could be worth while obtaining copies of these wills as you may just be lucky and it could mention maternal or paternal relatives. You may never find a parish record of Henry & Isabel's marriage as it is likely to fall within the period when few or no records were kept due to the English Civil War & the following period of Cromwell's Protectorship. Janet

Hi Janet You've certainly given me a lot to work on! I haven't had chance to do much research over the last few months so this will give me the impetus to get back into it. Thanks very much for your help. I'll let you know how I get on. Best wishes, Dave -----Original Message----- From: Janet Booth Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 11:46 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - B for Brindley,Brentnall and Birkin According to the 1851/61/71 records, Joseph gives his birthplace as Biggin, Derbyshire. There are 2 places named Biggin in Derbyshire one being near Hulland. The 1841/51/61 census records show a Joseph BRINDLEY born c1794 at Hulland, Labourer married to a Sarah born c1785-91 at Warwick and living in Belper - could this be your Joseph's father. The 1841 census shows Joseph & Sarah in Belper together with presumably their son Samuel and his family, he being born c1816. There is a Samuel BRINDLEY baptised on 29 October 1815 at the Zion Chapel Lady Huntingdon's, Ashbourne, Derbyshire (source IGI Family Search) and coincidentally there is the baptism of a Joseph BRINDLEY (from the same source) on 14 June 1818 at St Alkmund King Street Methodist Wesleyan Chapel. This transcription has the parents as Joseph & Hannah but a subsequent baptism at the same Chapel for a David BRINDLEY on 30 March 1823 shows the parents to be Joseph & Sarah so I would guess that Hannah is a mis-transcription and should read Sarah. Does any of this fit with what you already know such as information from your Joseph's marriage record? Janet My Bs came together on 9th December 1839 at Duffield where they were married in the Parish Church. They were Joseph BRINDLEY, born about 1818 in Derby and Mary BRENTNALL, born about 1814 in Belper. They were my g-g-grandparents. Joseph's father was also called Joseph, born around 1795 but no further information known. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Andy - have you been able to check the original PRs for Ashbourne for your BRANDRETHs? I ask because they are poorly covered by Familysearch/IGI - hence I have spent many hours trawling through the films at Matlock looking for a variety of names there, though unhappily not BRANDRETH! Have you looked for Wills at Lichfield? Have you checked non-conformist records - there were dissenting chapels in Ashbourne in the 18th century, if I remember rightly, and the extant records for at least one of them begin in the 1790s. Regards, Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK On 17 March 2013 10:49, Andy <andy@rmcs.org.uk> wrote: > Hi > > I have been unable to trace a baptism for Joseph BRANDRETH (or > BRANDRITH) - probably circa 1798. The family lived in Ashbourne and > Mapleton from that time onwards but it's quite possible Joseph came from > elsewhere. > > Any suggestions very welcome! > > Andy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

According to the 1851/61/71 records, Joseph gives his birthplace as Biggin, Derbyshire. There are 2 places named Biggin in Derbyshire one being near Hulland. The 1841/51/61 census records show a Joseph BRINDLEY born c1794 at Hulland, Labourer married to a Sarah born c1785-91 at Warwick and living in Belper - could this be your Joseph's father. The 1841 census shows Joseph & Sarah in Belper together with presumably their son Samuel and his family, he being born c1816. There is a Samuel BRINDLEY baptised on 29 October 1815 at the Zion Chapel Lady Huntingdon's, Ashbourne, Derbyshire (source IGI Family Search) and coincidentally there is the baptism of a Joseph BRINDLEY (from the same source) on 14 June 1818 at St Alkmund King Street Methodist Wesleyan Chapel. This transcription has the parents as Joseph & Hannah but a subsequent baptism at the same Chapel for a David BRINDLEY on 30 March 1823 shows the parents to be Joseph & Sarah so I would guess that Hannah is a mis-transcription and should read Sarah. Does any of this fit with what you already know such as information from your Joseph's marriage record? Janet My Bs came together on 9th December 1839 at Duffield where they were married in the Parish Church. They were Joseph BRINDLEY, born about 1818 in Derby and Mary BRENTNALL, born about 1814 in Belper. They were my g-g-grandparents. Joseph's father was also called Joseph, born around 1795 but no further information known.

Hello Jenny, There are 3 BROCKSOP(P) baptisms for the period 1610-1623 at Chesterfield to an Edward/Edmund BROCKSOPP, unfortunately not one for a Henry, although Henry does appear to be one of the forenames used within the Chesterfield BROCKSOPPs so perhaps worth further investigation. Lichfield Record Office Online Wills Index (www.staffsnameindexes.org.uk/StartPage.aspx?) have quite a few BROCKSOP(P) wills including one for a Henry BROCKSOPP of North Wingfield, Yeoman dated 1707 (one of your Henry's sons??) and that of an Edmund BROCKSOP of North Wingfield, yeoman dated 1719. It could be worth while obtaining copies of these wills as you may just be lucky and it could mention maternal or paternal relatives. You may never find a parish record of Henry & Isabel's marriage as it is likely to fall within the period when few or no records were kept due to the English Civil War & the following period of Cromwell's Protectorship. Janet I have been trying find details of my 8G Grandfather Henry BROCKSOPP for some years. Henry and his wife Isabel had 3 children baptised in North Wingfield from 1648. Both Henry and Isabel were buried at North Wingfield in in 1654. I’m trying to find Where Henry BROCKSOPP came from and his marrige to Isabel.

Hi I have been unable to trace a baptism for Joseph BRANDRETH (or BRANDRITH) - probably circa 1798. The family lived in Ashbourne and Mapleton from that time onwards but it's quite possible Joseph came from elsewhere. Any suggestions very welcome! Andy

I located them in an 1851 and 1861 census, is this of any use to you? Mike Morris Toronto Canada >________________________________ > From: Andy <andy@rmcs.org.uk> >To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:49:42 AM > >I have been unable to trace a baptism for Joseph BRANDRETH (or >BRANDRITH) - probably circa 1798.  The family lived in Ashbourne and >Mapleton from that time onwards but it's quite possible Joseph came from >elsewhere. <snip> > >

This was posted on another list with a request it be passed on to other lists. Connie in London -------- Original Message -------- > From: "Polly Rubery" > > Hi All > > The Commonwealth War Graves Commission are looking for relatives of > quite a number of war casualties, can you help:- > > http://www.cwgc.org/news-events/news/appeal-for-relatives-(2).aspx > > If you are a member of any other lists, please pass this on. > Thanks > Polly

My Bs came together on 9th December 1839 at Duffield where they were married in the Parish Church. They were Joseph BRINDLEY, born about 1818 in Derby and Mary BRENTNALL, born about 1814 in Belper. They were my g-g-grandparents. Joseph's father was also called Joseph, born around 1795 but no further information known. Mary's parents were William BRENTNALL, born in Horsley Woodhouse on 25th July 1777, and [yet another B] Elizabeth BIRKIN, born about 1780 in Belper. I think they were married in Duffield or Stanley in 1805. I have another brickwall needing demolishing when we reach H but that can wait until then. Dave Fleetwood

I have been trying find details of my 8G Grandfather Henry BROCKSOPP for some years. Henry and his wife Isabel had 3 children baptised in North Wingfield from 1648. Both Henry and Isabel were buried at North Wingfield in in 1654. I’m trying to find Where Henry BROCKSOPP came from and his marrige to Isabel. If any one has any ideas I would be very grateful. thank you Jenny Deverell

A big thank you to Celia for some sound advice on breaking through my Langford brick wall. Some good leads there for me to follow up. And I'm sorry Noreen but I can't find any link between my Cheshire Langfords and yours at Higham, Belper and Chesterfield. Perhaps not yet anyhow? Don Sutherland

I can't access my records at present, but my William SHARLEY (B abt 1802ish) married Rebecca BRENTNALL in 1827. The BRENTNALLs were a big family in the Heanor/Duffield etc area at one time. Sally in USA On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Dave Shaw <shaws@vectis8.wanadoo.co.uk>wrote: > My Bs came together on 9th December 1839 at Duffield where they were > married > in the Parish Church. They were Joseph BRINDLEY, born about 1818 in Derby > and Mary BRENTNALL, born about 1814 in Belper. They were my > g-g-grandparents. > > Joseph's father was also called Joseph, born around 1795 but no further > information known. > > Mary's parents were William BRENTNALL, born in Horsley Woodhouse on 25th > July 1777, and [yet another B] Elizabeth BIRKIN, born about 1780 in Belper. > I think they were married in Duffield or Stanley in 1805. > > I have another brickwall needing demolishing when we reach H but that can > wait until then. > > Dave > Fleetwood > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sue, If my memory serves me right I think that the old cemetery was on Utoxeter New Road and the New Cemetery was subsequently built on Nottingham road, Chaddesden. I believe that it was opened about 1855. Janet On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Sue & Les Terry <suelesterry@ntlworld.com>wrote: > Hi List > I've just been shown a funeral card of the first wife of my great > grandfather William Henry PALMER. Her name was Maria PALMER. They lived in > Dexter Street Derby. She died on May 5th 1891 and she was interred at the > "New Cemetery" Derby on May 10th 1891. > Does anyone know which cemetery is the "New Cemetery"? > Regards > Sue > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List I've just been shown a funeral card of the first wife of my great grandfather William Henry PALMER. Her name was Maria PALMER. They lived in Dexter Street Derby. She died on May 5th 1891 and she was interred at the "New Cemetery" Derby on May 10th 1891. Does anyone know which cemetery is the "New Cemetery"? Regards Sue Sent from my iPad

Thank you Nivard. I have traced the canals and their commencement dates and it looks like the possible link to Banbury from Sawley is looking decidedly unlikely. My brick wall remains but thanks also to those members who contacted me privately. Darryl Sydney, Australia

Hi again Dawn Just been on Ancestry and it came up on my messages that you have made a correction to the 1851 census clicked on the census but cannot see what correction you have made Are you able to enlighten me. See you are in NZ and I am NSW kind regards Jen On 14/03/2013 8:22 AM, Jennifer Craddock wrote: > Hi Dawn > I have seen the tree in Ancestry and contacted the owner, however they > said that 'my' William > was not the same as 'their' William even though they both have a father > Benjamin > I am not convinced that is the case, so may contact them again > Also on one census I did see one son was born in the US but did not know > of another and > also the twins with the mothers maiden name is new , so thanks very much > for all your > information. Sad if the William Bentley who died is the same one, > Hannah is now a widow twice > in a very short period. Hannah was my gg and was born 1843 in Cotton > Staffs > kind regards > Jen > On 13/03/2013 7:16 PM, Dawn Scotting wrote: >> Jen, >> >> I found William Bentley in someone's tree on ancestry and it says he >> died in 1869 but they don't have a marriage for him. I'm presuming he is >> the right William Bentley though as his father was Benjamin a tailor >> (1851 census) and his mother was Patience. >> >> William was baptised at Tutbury, Staffs on 3 Jun 1838, his parents had a >> large family including two sons who was born in the USA, and twins who >> were baptised under the mother's maiden name of Harrison. The rest of >> Ben & Patience's children, apart from one other, were all born in >> Tutbury as far as I can see. >> >> I can't find wife Hannah in 1871 though as I'm not sure where she was born. >> >> Cheers....Dawn ©¿©¬ >> >> Jennifer Craddock wrote: >>> Where did William Bentley and Hannah Salt nee Hickingbotham (various >>> spellings) go >>> >>> >>> William Bentley (shoe maker) aged 29 and Hannah Salt (widow) aged 26 >>> married 9 June 1867 at Parish Church Duffield, Derby >>> Father of William was Benjamine Bentley (Tailor) Father of Hannah was >>> Matthew Hickingham (Labourer) >>> Witnesses - Herbert Archer and Elizabeth Smith >>> >>> I can find no trace of them in 1871 census >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Connie Thanks for the reply, it does say in one census I have that one of Benjamin & Patience's sons was born in the US Must check now all the info for the mothers maiden name, as this is new regards Jen On 14/03/2013 1:54 AM, Connie wrote: > Dawn Scotting wrote: > >> William was baptised at Tutbury, Staffs on 3 Jun 1838, his parents had a >> large family including two sons who was born in the USA, and twins who >> were baptised under the mother's maiden name of Harrison. The rest of >> Ben & Patience's children, apart from one other, were all born in >> Tutbury as far as I can see. > Hallo > > I think the two sons who were born in the USA could be wrong. > Whoever's tree it is may have mis-identified the place or mis-recorded > it as being in the USA when it wasn't. > > Connie in London > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Dawn I have seen the tree in Ancestry and contacted the owner, however they said that 'my' William was not the same as 'their' William even though they both have a father Benjamin I am not convinced that is the case, so may contact them again Also on one census I did see one son was born in the US but did not know of another and also the twins with the mothers maiden name is new , so thanks very much for all your information. Sad if the William Bentley who died is the same one, Hannah is now a widow twice in a very short period. Hannah was my gg and was born 1843 in Cotton Staffs kind regards Jen On 13/03/2013 7:16 PM, Dawn Scotting wrote: > Jen, > > I found William Bentley in someone's tree on ancestry and it says he > died in 1869 but they don't have a marriage for him. I'm presuming he is > the right William Bentley though as his father was Benjamin a tailor > (1851 census) and his mother was Patience. > > William was baptised at Tutbury, Staffs on 3 Jun 1838, his parents had a > large family including two sons who was born in the USA, and twins who > were baptised under the mother's maiden name of Harrison. The rest of > Ben & Patience's children, apart from one other, were all born in > Tutbury as far as I can see. > > I can't find wife Hannah in 1871 though as I'm not sure where she was born. > > Cheers....Dawn ©¿©¬ > > Jennifer Craddock wrote: >> Where did William Bentley and Hannah Salt nee Hickingbotham (various >> spellings) go >> >> >> William Bentley (shoe maker) aged 29 and Hannah Salt (widow) aged 26 >> married 9 June 1867 at Parish Church Duffield, Derby >> Father of William was Benjamine Bentley (Tailor) Father of Hannah was >> Matthew Hickingham (Labourer) >> Witnesses - Herbert Archer and Elizabeth Smith >> >> I can find no trace of them in 1871 census > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >