> This may be a little off-topic - sorry - but I'm looking for a > traditionally English, simple, pudding or cake recipe for a theme > evening on Who Do You Think You are!! What would your ancestors be > eating as desserts or cakes?! A odd one I remember from around 1950, may be from Walsall ( Staffs ), wartime, or father bought it from Derby, was a battered jam sandwich. When we have fish and chips mother would do a normal jam sandwich, 2 rounds of bread, cut in half, batter, then deep fry, served with custard, it was cheap, simple and tasty. Everyone who hears the story think's I'm mad, but money was short then, and we still had rationing, and it could not have been that bad as I still remember it fondly. Brian KINDER's Derbyshire

There are a few recipes by Mrs Beeton, including dessert recipes at http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/chefs/mrs_beeton There are several other websites with other recipes, and something described as her most delicious dessert at http://mrsbeetonin365days.wordpress.com/2010/06/25/day-167-mrs-beetons-most- delicious-dessert/ Her book of household management, including cookery, was first published in 1861, so qualifies as pre-twentieth century. But it's very middle class - not sure what my Ag Labs would have eaten for dessert, if anything. Margaret -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rose Kelland Sent: 15 May 2013 10:23 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Pre 20th century puddings or cakes! This may be a little off-topic - sorry - but I'm looking for a traditionally English, simple, pudding or cake recipe for a theme evening on Who Do You Think You are!! What would your ancestors be eating as desserts or cakes?! Help! Thanks! -- Rose Kelland www.rosescountryrose.blogspot.com www.livesandtimesofbella.blogspot.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 15/05/2013 11:12, george pickering wrote: > Dear All, > > When removing a pauper family from one Union to another > who would bear the cost? The Parish of settlement of the pauper family would often pay the cost. > > How would they be conveyed, by train or carriage? Almost always by Shank's Pony, i.e. walking. The constable would walk the family to the next parish where they would be met by the constable and so on until reaching their destination. > > I have a family (widowed mother and two children) who in 1902 > are residing in the Poplar Union Workhouse but have no legal > right of Settlement in the Poplar Union or any parish therein. > > Because her deceased husband was born in Cheltenham Parish in > the Cheltenham Union the Guardians of the Poplar Union are > saying that the family is proper to the Cheltenham Union. > > Consequently the Cheltenham Union are ordered to deal with the > receiving and conveying of the family. > > Regards > > George > Rainham, Kent. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Yes a wife and children could on the death of the husband/father have to travel to a place they had never visited in their lives due to the poor laws. Cheers Guy

On 2013/05/15 11:50, Karen wrote: > James England > baptised 22nd May 1768 > St Martins Church > Alfreton > (boy!! I would love to get a copy of St Martins bmd's) > parents > John and Mary England Some of the records have been transcribed for FreeREG 3 Baptisms 160 Marriages (71 in Alfreton) 5 Burials All containing the ENGLAND surname in Derbyshire! Try <http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl> I have a Sarah ENGLAND, b abt 1798, who married John SHAWCROFT on 5th Feb 1821. Would this Sarah be a daughter of your John & Mary ENGLAND? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Thanks Jenny I am aware of The MILLINGTON one name study site. Have used it on many occasions with great results. Paul Millington is to be congratulated on all his hard work in producing sush a fine resource. Henry Griffiths ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3162/6323 - Release Date: 05/14/13

Dear All, When removing a pauper family from one Union to another who would bear the cost? How would they be conveyed, by train or carriage? I have a family (widowed mother and two children) who in 1902 are residing in the Poplar Union Workhouse but have no legal right of Settlement in the Poplar Union or any parish therein. Because her deceased husband was born in Cheltenham Parish in the Cheltenham Union the Guardians of the Poplar Union are saying that the family is proper to the Cheltenham Union. Consequently the Cheltenham Union are ordered to deal with the receiving and conveying of the family. Regards George Rainham, Kent.

This may be a little off-topic - sorry - but I'm looking for a traditionally English, simple, pudding or cake recipe for a theme evening on Who Do You Think You are!! What would your ancestors be eating as desserts or cakes?! Help! Thanks! -- Rose Kelland www.rosescountryrose.blogspot.com www.livesandtimesofbella.blogspot.com

For those of you who are interested in the name MILLINGTON are you aware that there is a ONE-NAME STUDY  for that name?   For more information visit http://www.one-name.org/ and search against that name or any other name that you may be interested in.   Regards Jenny Tudbury Derbyshire Rep - Guild of one-Name Studies From: Henry Griffiths <hgriff_44@tiscali.co.uk> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2013, 8:41 Subject: [DBY] Brickwall - M for MILLINGTON One of my brickwalls on my wife's side of the family John MILLINGTON  born about 1773 Duffield Possible marriage to Phebe RUDGE March 1798 at Duffield Possible parents of John could be  William MILLINGTON born about 1747 and Mary ??? born about 1751 who married in 1772 at Duffield I know nothing of Phebe RUDGE either. Regards Henry Griffiths ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Mike, will check these out and let you know of my findings. Henry Griffiths -----Original Message----- From: Mike Fry Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 5:48 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] Brickwall - M for MILLINGTON On 2013/05/14 17:48, Henry Griffiths wrote: > Barry from Canada wrote > >> << I have MILLINGTON in Dronfield and Barlow. Might be related?? >> Mine are at this time brickwalls.. >> > > I knew there were MILLINGTON's in that area but have never been able > to make a connection, the nearest location that my lot pop up is in > Bolsterstone > and Bradfield which is a bit farther north. > They were there from 1871 to 1901 according to the census. I also have a stray MILLINGTON or two. In the Dec Q of 1857, Eliza MILLINGTON formerly SHAWCROFT married John SOULT probably at Ripley. This was, I believe, her second marriage. The first having been on 20 Apr 1851 in Manchester (Manchester Cathedral?), when Eliza SHAWCROFT married a William MILLINGTON. This was also the second marriage for John SOULT. His first wife having been a Mary GREEN in about 1836 or so. She died in 1854. William MILLINGTON and Eliza SHAWCROFT had at least two children: Hannah b.1847 and John b.1855 So there's a further two MILLINGTONs for your assessment. These two were, I think, born across the Pennines in Lancashire. There may be others! -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Look for a recipe for a Bread pudding. This looked like Christmas pudding when cooked. It was a way to use up  stale bread. Tasted great with custard or eaten cold with sugar sprinkled on top. This is not bread in layers with raisins sprinkled in between the layers. Its bread shredded into fine pieces and mixed with raisins, eggs and butter etc etc. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ________________________________ > From: Margaret Siudek <msiudek@talktalk.net> >To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:29:09 AM > >There are a few recipes by Mrs Beeton, including dessert recipes at >> >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/chefs/mrs_beeton >> >>There are several other websites with other recipes, and something described >>as her most delicious dessert at <snip> >> >> > >

Hi, Rose,     You may want to look at this web page: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~englin/foods.htm     Although the page lists "Lincolnshire" foods, some are common in other counties.  If you scroll down to "Frumenty", you'll find a traditional barley or wheat pudding.         Lou <--------------Your message ----------> Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 10:22:45 +0100 From: Rose Kelland <rekelland@gmail.com> Subject: [DBY] Pre 20th century puddings or cakes! To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID:     <CABmHfu+QSXdAEdgmD7-YyiPSVW=8L2bJe7BnbgYgJGnw=QExWw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This may be a little off-topic - sorry - but I'm looking for a traditionally English, simple, pudding or cake recipe for a theme evening on Who Do You Think You are!!  What would your ancestors be eating as desserts or cakes?! Help! Thanks! -- Rose Kelland

ENGLAND, Robert and Dorothy Bayley married 6th September 1685 Dale Abbey Looking for children please - Thx Kaeh

The information that is on the Family History Disks - does that contain all information - only reason I ask is that a very generous person gave me a print out of one Surname for Alfreton - and this particular nightmare has a father listed on his baptism, but no info listed on his marriage info for him or his spouse ...so I am wondering if the original marriage register would have those details?? Thx. Karen

I have in my family John England born 19th April 1741 to William and Sarah - presumably William England and Sarah Bugg, Alfreton, Derby There is a baptism for William England born in Alfreton 1717 - his father was recorded as John no other information is available This information has been checked by Derby Fhs - as well as other sources I have also checked Notts information and found a John England married 12 August 1716 to a Mary Grocock - This John is not the man I am looking for as I have John and Mary's children including a John born later than my John Can anyone do a search for me and check if in Derbyshire maybe Ilkeston, Condor, Heanor as that is where some of my England's came from and see if you can find a John England and his spouse and other children around this period of time. Also if possible William England and Sarah - who may have had other children baptised in Derby - as I can't find anything in Notts or Alfreton. Thankyou If this can be cracked I have found my 9th and 10th great grandfather. Many thanks Karen Qld Australia

On 2013/05/14 17:48, Henry Griffiths wrote: > Barry from Canada wrote > >> << I have MILLINGTON in Dronfield and Barlow. Might be related?? >> Mine are at this time brickwalls.. >> > > I knew there were MILLINGTON's in that area but have never been able > to make a connection, the nearest location that my lot pop up is in > Bolsterstone > and Bradfield which is a bit farther north. > They were there from 1871 to 1901 according to the census. I also have a stray MILLINGTON or two. In the Dec Q of 1857, Eliza MILLINGTON formerly SHAWCROFT married John SOULT probably at Ripley. This was, I believe, her second marriage. The first having been on 20 Apr 1851 in Manchester (Manchester Cathedral?), when Eliza SHAWCROFT married a William MILLINGTON. This was also the second marriage for John SOULT. His first wife having been a Mary GREEN in about 1836 or so. She died in 1854. William MILLINGTON and Eliza SHAWCROFT had at least two children: Hannah b.1847 and John b.1855 So there's a further two MILLINGTONs for your assessment. These two were, I think, born across the Pennines in Lancashire. There may be others! -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Barry from Canada wrote << I have MILLINGTON in Dronfield and Barlow. Might be related?? Mine are at this time brickwalls.. >> I knew there were MILLINGTON's in that area but have never been able to make a connection, the nearest location that my lot pop up is in Bolsterstone and Bradfield which is a bit farther north. They were there from 1871 to 1901 according to the census. Henry Griffiths

Karen wrote: > The information that is on the Family History Disks - > > does that contain all information - only reason I ask is that a very > generous person gave me a print out of one Surname for Alfreton - and > this particular nightmare has a father listed on his baptism, but no > info listed on his marriage info for him or his spouse ...so I am > wondering if the original marriage register would have those details?? Fathers were named in the baptism registers but not until post civil registration (1837) in the marriage registers. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

One of my brickwalls on my wife's side of the family John MILLINGTON born about 1773 Duffield Possible marriage to Phebe RUDGE March 1798 at Duffield Possible parents of John could be William MILLINGTON born about 1747 and Mary ??? born about 1751 who married in 1772 at Duffield I know nothing of Phebe RUDGE either. Regards Henry Griffiths

I have MILLINGTON in Dronfield and Barlow. Might be related?? Mine are at this time brickwalls.. Henry MILLINGTON ab 1720 Barlow,Derbyshire Elizabeth BRADSHAW ab 1724 wife Barlow. Married at Dronfield 21 June 1745 Only found one son Samuel born in Dronfield ab 1745 Wife Ann COWLEY married 21 April 1761 in Dronfield Barry from Canada -----Original Message----- From: Henry Griffiths Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 1:41 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Brickwall - M for MILLINGTON One of my brickwalls on my wife's side of the family John MILLINGTON born about 1773 Duffield Possible marriage to Phebe RUDGE March 1798 at Duffield Possible parents of John could be William MILLINGTON born about 1747 and Mary ??? born about 1751 who married in 1772 at Duffield I know nothing of Phebe RUDGE either. Regards Henry Griffiths ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My 5x gt-grandmother, Mary MORLEY is a complete mystery! She married Joseph NORTON in Stapenhill, 6 Apr 1730 and was buried in the same place on 14 Nov 1764. Although her parish at marriage was given as Stapenhill, there were no MORLEYs christened in Stapenhill prior to 1730, so I have no idea of her place of origin. In his 1789 "View of the Present State of Derbyshire", James Pilkington wrote that "The village of Stapenhill contains 68 houses, but of this number 47 stand within the parish of Burton". So perhaps she lived in Stapenhill but belonged to the parish of St Modwen, Burton on Trent. In spite of there being no MORLEY baptisms in Stapenhill, there were, however, these other C18 MORLEY marriages in the parish: 1715: John MORLEY, of Repton m Mary PEACE 1762: Hannah MORLEY, of Burton on Trent m Joseph HARDIMAN 1790: Robert MORLEY, of Willesley m Elisabeth GILLIVER Does anybody have in their tree a Mary MORLEY who may have married in Stapenhill in 1730? Regards Blanche Charles (nee Norton) Wellington-Kapiti Coast New Zealand NORTON Family History Unlimited http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blanchec/indexdby.htm