Hi List, Can anyone help me with the following family? Rosa POWELL (nee HESTER) born 1838 (Ireland) John POWELL born abt 1838 (Ireland) (They married on 12th May 1855 at Church of the Annuciation, Chesterfield and the witnesses were William HESTER and Bridget BRANNAN) I have two children for them Mary POWELL born abt 1857 Bridget POWELL born abt 1860 I have them in the 1861 census, but what became of them after this? -- My family tree - RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: C A N T R I L L http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=astridhq

Hi I have been trying to trace back the Pett family that lived in Biggin, Hartington Nether Quarter. I've got back as far as 1685, to a William Petty born in Hartington, married to Alice Hall, with children Elizabeth b1709, Ellen b 1712, Thomas b1715, Alice b 1719, William b 1723 and James b 1726. (I'm descended from Thomas) Can anyone suggest how I could find out about earlier generations? Pett/Petty is a common name in Kent and Cornwall, but not in Derbyshire! I have theorised that the family came north to find work, maybe in lead mining, but it is only a theory! Thanks Margaret ________________________________ From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 19 May 2013, 12:10 Subject: [DBY] Brickwall Demolition - PQ OK, you proved me wrong last week :)) Anyone with surnames beginning with P or Q which they are stuck at? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton,  Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       

Hello Jayne and Peter, It was very interesting to read about the Handleys, particularly as I have an almost direct connection. I knew for a long time from a list of mourners that my grand aunt Ada Holmes was married to someone by the name of Hudson but I had at that time no idea of his first names. Then I discovered that Ada's husband was George Vickers Hudson, the son of Benjamin Vickers Hudson and Eliza Hudson. I also read Jean Coulton's account of the murder, the following court case and his subsequent hanging in Derby Gaol. It is an extremely interesting article and I am pleased to say that I am only related-by-marriage to the whole grisly affair. Regards, Malcolm Holmes in Perth, Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Patilla Sent: Monday, 20 May 2013 2:19 AM To: Jayne; derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] NEW: West Handley web site Jayne Just had a look at your new site It is evident that a lot of time and effort has gone into its production One issue is that the photographs do not display on iPad and iPhone The murder account you have onsite has prompted me to look again at my Brackenfield Barn Murder and make that account more available. I have added this to my chore avoidance list! Always a delight to look at what others are doing on local and family history Best wishes Peter Sent from my iPhone On 19 May 2013, at 19:01, Jayne <jadire@gmail.com> wrote: > It's been a long time coming but I have finally uploaded the revamped > West Handley web site: > > http://www.westhandley.genealogypages.co.uk/index.html > > I still have a lot to add but there is quite a bit on the site already. > Hope you like it. > > There is also a mailing list associated with the site if anyone would > like to join us. > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-DBY-HANDLEYS.htm > l > > Take care > > Jayne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.2308, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.21100) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 982 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.2308, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.21100) http://www.pctools.com/ =======

I see your problem, Peter. There's no obvious Isaac on the 1901 or 1911 censuses. As a miner, it might be that he was underground on the night of the census, so wasn't recorded. Or maybe just a stroppy individual who avoided census officials :-) Andy. At 14:51 19/05/2013, you wrote: >Afternoon all >I have been waiting for the Ps to appear >My brick wall is Isaac Patilla born 1858 in Ashover/Brackenfield/Shirland area; a miner who died 1923 in Mansfield area >I have tracked him with difficulty in 1861, 1871 and 1881 (Partiller, Pathia and Satilla) >However the remaining three census have him hidden. I have tried prisons (first avenue of enquiry) services, passenger lists but drawn a blank >I would like to find his whereabouts if possible >Peter > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jayne Just had a look at your new site It is evident that a lot of time and effort has gone into its production One issue is that the photographs do not display on iPad and iPhone The murder account you have onsite has prompted me to look again at my Brackenfield Barn Murder and make that account more available. I have added this to my chore avoidance list! Always a delight to look at what others are doing on local and family history Best wishes Peter Sent from my iPhone On 19 May 2013, at 19:01, Jayne <jadire@gmail.com> wrote: > It's been a long time coming but I have finally uploaded the revamped West > Handley web site: > > http://www.westhandley.genealogypages.co.uk/index.html > > I still have a lot to add but there is quite a bit on the site already. > Hope you like it. > > There is also a mailing list associated with the site if anyone would like > to join us. > > http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-DBY-HANDLEYS.html > > Take care > > Jayne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's been a long time coming but I have finally uploaded the revamped West Handley web site: http://www.westhandley.genealogypages.co.uk/index.html I still have a lot to add but there is quite a bit on the site already. Hope you like it. There is also a mailing list associated with the site if anyone would like to join us. http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/ENG-DBY-HANDLEYS.html Take care Jayne

On 2013/05/19 15:51, Peter Patilla wrote: > I have been waiting for the Ps to appear My brick wall is Isaac Patilla born > 1858 in Ashover/Brackenfield/Shirland area; a miner who died 1923 in > Mansfield area FreeBMD: Birth: Isaac PERTILLER Mar Q 1858, Chesterfield RD, 7b/465 Death: Isaac PATILLA aged 65 Sep Q 1923, Mansfield RD, 7b/107 > I have tracked him with difficulty in 1861, 1871 and 1881 (Partiller, Pathia > and Satilla) However the remaining three census have him hidden. I have tried > prisons (first avenue of enquiry) services, passenger lists but drawn a > blank I would like to find his whereabouts if possible FamilySearch: 1881 Census Head Samuel Tideswell M 30 Shirebrook, Derbyshire, England Wife Mary Tideswell F 30 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Son John Tideswell M 10 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Son George Tideswell M 8 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Son William Tideswell M 6 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Son Samuel Tideswell M 5 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Daughter Elizabeth Tideswell F 2 Skegby, Nottinghamshire, England Boarder Alec Satilla M 26 Shirland, Derbyshire, England Boarder Isaac Satilla M 23 Shirland, Derbyshire, England So, with a brother named Alec, and lodging in Skegby, Notts. The 1861 census should identify his parents. Looks like William & Elizabeth Several other siblings: William, George, Mary and Henry and another, 12-year old son - Alec? FamilySearch: 1871 Census appears to have him as PATTELA in Sheffield, and born in Sheller Nephew of an Anthey BOWN! Another likely brother in Henry PATTELA Can't see him in 1891 Census. But you've probably already got this information. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

Hi Peter, Some censuses for Isaac sent off list but I am not sure if they are the right ones as things don't quite add up. Christine

Afternoon all I have been waiting for the Ps to appear My brick wall is Isaac Patilla born 1858 in Ashover/Brackenfield/Shirland area; a miner who died 1923 in Mansfield area I have tracked him with difficulty in 1861, 1871 and 1881 (Partiller, Pathia and Satilla) However the remaining three census have him hidden. I have tried prisons (first avenue of enquiry) services, passenger lists but drawn a blank I would like to find his whereabouts if possible Peter

I am confused about a John PEARSON and an Ann PEARSON. 1841 census, Derby, DBY, Litchurch St. John PEARSON - Living with Samuel PEARSON family, age 15, born DBY. Samuel's mother (and John's mother?), Jane TOPLISS PEARSON (age 61) is living with them as well. Ann PEARSON - Living with Thomas PEARSON family, age 18, born DBY - Samuel and Thomas were brothers, living one family apart on Litchurch St., St. Peter's, Derby 1851 census, Derby, DBY, Litchurch St. John PEARSON - Now living with Thomas PEARSON family. John is identified as 'brother' of Thomas PEARSON. John, age 24, born Wirksworth. Ann PEARSON - Probably married. The PEARSON family in 1818, including young Thomas and Samuel, were removed from Ticknall where they were born, to Wirksworth, their father John's place of legal settlement (even though John's wife, Jane TOPLISS (married 1801, Calke), and all eight of their children up to 1818 had been born in Ticknall). 1861 Derby census, Litchurch St. John PEARSON, age 34, visitor with family of Thomas PEARSON. The problem. The family was removed to Wirksworth in 1818 as far as I know. I have the Removal papers and the Ticknall Parish Expenses tabulating the cost of the removal and payment to the man who supposedly accompanied them. No corresponding repayment from Wirksworth, though. And although I've searched John Palmer's excellent Wirksworth site for parish records and have viewed the FHL film for Wirksworth P.R.s of that period (1818-1830) I did not find a birth/baptism for John (c. 1826) or Ann (c. 1823) although Ann is not proven to be from Wirksworth. She may be the daughter of one of John Sr.'s siblings, but there are no Ann PEARSONs bapt. to any PEARSONs in 1822-1824 in Wirksworth. She also could have been born in Ticknall where her mother's people were. 1851 census searches don't help much as there are several married possibilities. The question. Did John and Jane PEARSON have two more children after they arrived (if they did) in Wirksworth? I think John, Sr., died in Wirksworth 04Apr1837. His son Thomas was already married and in Derby in 1835, so I think the various family members came to Derby after John, Sr.'s death. Thanks in advance for any ideas or information. Judy

OK, you proved me wrong last week :)) Anyone with surnames beginning with P or Q which they are stuck at? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi All I have a puzzle - I am stuck on William England born Jan 1717 in Alfreton, married Sarah Bugg supposively born 1717 in Heanor (unfort. I don't have records for Heanor) and in the Alfreton records I have son John born 1741 - this is the only child listed under William and Sarah - whether they had more children later I don't know... In the burials for Alfreton, there is no Sarah listed - I have checked f/s but I find some information not quite accurate - therefore if someone could 1. establish Sarah's baptism for me please and 2. her death most obliged Karen

It was 70 years ago today one of the most audacious missions was flown by 617 Squadron from RAF Scampton, home of the Red Arrows. To mark the anniversary, the Lancaster from the RAF's Battle of Britain Memorial Flight and two Tornado GR4s from 617 Sqn flew over Derwent Reservoir in Derbyshire and Eyebrook Reservoir in the East Midlands, which were used for low level flying practice by the original Dambusters crews. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22554314 andwww.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22510300 The legendary Dambusters Raid will be commemorated by a special flypast [https://www.airtattoo.com/airshow/Newsroom/news/air-tattoo-to-salute-dambusters] at the Air Tattoo this summer. The bouncing bombs were, as we all know, invented by the late Sir Barnes Wallis (1887-1979) was born in Ripley, Derbyshire www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/wallis_neville_barnes.shtml To find out more about the Dambusters Raid and to see coverage of the Flypast tune into the following TV and Radio programmes (courtesy of the Royal International Air Tattoo site): Thursday 16 May – 7pm - The Dambusters: 70 Years On, BBC 2 www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01sjtzt Thursday 16 May – 11.20pm – Dam Busters: The Race To Smash The German Dams, BBC 2 www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0175nh1 Friday 17 May – from 6.30am – Chris Evans: Live from RAF Scampton, BBC Radio 2 www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01sd1cc Friday 17 May - from 12 noon – Jeremy Vine: Live from Biggin Hill airport, BBC Radio 2 www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01sd1ch Friday 17 May – 7pm – The One Show, BBC1 www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007tcw7 Friday 17 May – 8pm – Friday Night is Music Night, The Dambusters 70 Years On, BBC Radio 2 www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01sd1cr Friday 17 May – 9pm – Building The Bouncing Bomb, www.channel4.com/programmes/dambusters-building-the-bouncing-bomb -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Thank you all for your suggestions! I think I'll be trying some out before deciding! -- Rose Kelland www.rosescountryrose.blogspot.com www.livesandtimesofbella.blogspot.com

On 16/05/2013 01:28, John Palmer wrote: > Court of Requests" Try http://www.victorianlondon.org/legal/requests.htm or http://www.historyofoldbury.co.uk/articles/article003%20-%20court%20and%20prison.htm Or for the Derby area *http://tinyurl.com/bn3bb22 *Cheers Guy

Hello folks, A picture of an 8 inch Ginger Jar raises some questions. (see www.wirksworth.org.uk/X646.htm) What was the jar used for? J.T.MARSH seems to have been a grocer and a tea dealer for 50 years. Could it have been a tea caddy? It would need a big cork. William MARSH calls himself "Bailiff for the Court of Requests". According to Wikipedia, the Court of Requests ended in the Civil War. Is Wikipedia wrong? Is the Census entry wrong? Anyone with legal knowledge know? Does anyone have a photo of Joseph MARSH 1834-1909? He seems to have had no offspring. Anyone have him in their family tree? Regards, John Palmer, Dorset, England Author of Wirksworth website www.wirksworth.org.uk

Every so often - you end up self doubting the info you have So I was wondering if someone could check my facts please - James England baptised 22nd May 1768 St Martins Church Alfreton (boy!! I would love to get a copy of St Martins bmd's) parents John and Mary England The Mary that I have married to John England is Blasedale (Bleasedale depending which records you are looking out) they were married St Martins Church, Alfreton Many thx Karen

Jellies came in about the time of Henry VIII, I think and apparently purple and yellow were popular, Marie

Well what about Bakewell Pudding Rose? Traditional and linked to Derbyshire- sure there's plenty of receipes on line. Barbara PS lots of variations with bread and butter pudding too which is also ancient. My son once made one for 12 at university. ________________________________ From: Rose Kelland <rekelland@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 15 May 2013, 10:22 Subject: [DBY] Pre 20th century puddings or cakes! This may be a little off-topic - sorry - but I'm looking for a traditionally English, simple, pudding or cake recipe for a theme evening on Who Do You Think You are!!  What would your ancestors be eating as desserts or cakes?! Help! Thanks! -- Rose Kelland www.rosescountryrose.blogspot.com www.livesandtimesofbella.blogspot.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try searching for a chap called Ivan Day- he has researched old recipes, pre 20th century, so that might help. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Kelland" <rekelland@gmail.com> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:22 AM Subject: [DBY] Pre 20th century puddings or cakes! > This may be a little off-topic - sorry - but I'm looking for a > traditionally English, simple, pudding or cake recipe for a theme > evening on Who Do You Think You are!! What would your ancestors be > eating as desserts or cakes?! > > Help! Thanks! > > -- > Rose Kelland > www.rosescountryrose.blogspot.com > www.livesandtimesofbella.blogspot.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message