Hello James Sue Brown - hi, Sue! :-) - sent you this marriage: Egginton PR: John Stafford, Darby, & Eliz Allkins of Burton, 1699 Feb 14 If it should transpire that this is the marriage you are seeking, we may have a connection. My 4x gt-grandparents were John BAXTER, tailor, of Stapenhill m Ann ALLKINS, 19 Sep 1754, at Stapenhill I believe that Ann was d/o John AL[L]KIN, cooper, of Burton on Trent, and wife Elizabeth (surname unknown). - Can anybody identify their marriage? John ALKINS signed his will 1 Jul 1729. It was proved (Lichfield Peculiars) 21 May 1730. It mentions property in Alvington, Staffs and his beneficiaries were his wife Elizabeth, son Thomas and his "other children" to wife Elizabeth. In his turn, I believe John to have been son of Sampson ALKIN[S], Clerk (religious), of Burton on Trent, who signed his will 18 Nov 1699. It was proved (Lichfield Peculiars), 6 Dec 1699. It mentions son John and daughters Elizabeth & Dorothy, all of whom appear to have been under 21 at the time. No mention of his wife/ their mother, who must have pre-deceased him. Bequests also to his brother, John ALKINS and sister Sarah KYRKEBY [KIRKBY]. Also named his nephews William PARKER of Derby and John HAFTER? as his executors. Sampson ALKINS'will also referred to property in Uttoxeter, Staffs, and from what I recall, the surname was more prominent there than in Burton. Even so, it was not a common name and the fact that the STAFFORD= ALLKINS marriage was in the same place and time period - ie around turn of C18 in Burton - makes it possible that there may be a connection. If you or anybody else can make a connection, I would be interested to hear from you. Regards Blanche Charles (nee Norton) Kapiti Coast New Zealand NORTON Family History Unlimited http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blanchec/indexdby.htm -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Brown, 06 June 2013 08:38 There is a possible marriage for John at Egginton which will be in the next upload of the marriage index. Egginton PR John Stafford, Darby, & Eliz Allkins of Burton, 1699 Feb 14 -------------------------- Wed, 5 Jun 2013 20:01:53 +0100 From: "James Stafford" <james@staffordonline.net> Subject: Re: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S & T - William STAFFORD

Hi Andy Many thanks for your kind reply and offer of help. The Bretby parish records used to puzzle me, because there were baptisms from 1766 and yet my grandparents, who both lived in the village were married in Newhall. Only later did I discover that they could not have married in Bretby at the time. When the Chesterfield family rebuilt Bretby church in 1878, I assume that it was either then or within a few years that consecrated ground was provided for burials. Bretby was originally a chapel of Repton and has the same dedication of St Wystan. Nostalgia is getting the better of me, as I now live so far south - in St Albans. I would like to know more about the Village History Group so perhaps you could contact me off list. Best wishes Barbara At 10:40 12/06/2013, austens wrote: >Hi Barbara, > >I'm part of the Repton Village History Group and am wondering if our archive >could help you. I was surprised that Bretby had no consecratred ground at >the time and wasn't licensed for mariages till 1911. Can I confirm that this >was the Parish Church please? We're having a look for the grave and to see >if there is a memorial. Next time I'm in the new records office in Matlock >I'll have a hunt for the marriage.

Thank you for these, Sue. I'll check them out. It's interesting that you should mention the 'no results' scenario. I've  assumed in the past that when this happened to me, the whole system was  heaving a sigh of failure, or maybe saying 'Look, go away. It's someone else's turn!' I'll take your advice to keep it general. Again, many thanks. Kind regards Joy You wrote - > I have found recently that the new search facility on Family Search often says there is nothing found when I know that there is something - its very frustrating > > I have started being very general with my search (ie no dates or places ) and then filtering using the filters at the side margin - it seems to work better. Principle moan is that after one search every following search I try says "no results" which is not the case! Either I am doing something wrong or the system is limiting my searching!

Hi Joy - not suggesting you haven't seen these but Familysearch do have the following: Not Stevens but close. Ann Stenson (poss the ven has been lost in transcription?) 3rd June 1715 Alvaston, Derby Ann Steevenson May 23rd 1715 Lutterworth.  Father John I have found recently that the new search facility on Family Search often says there is nothing found when I know that there is something - its very frustrating I have started being very general with my search (ie no dates or places ) and then filtering using the filters at the side margin - it seems to work better.  Principle moan is that after one search every following search I try says "no results" which is not the case!  Either I am doing something wrong or the system is limiting my searching! Sue ________________________________ From: Joy Hungerford <joyharp2010@hotmail.co.uk> To: "derbysgen@rootsweb.com" <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2013, 15:40 Subject: [DBY] Ann STEVENS of Ockbrook In 1739, my 5GGP, John Stenson STEVENS and Ann STEVENS, married in Ockbrook. Although I have a large number of STEVENSes, and although I can trace John's  family back a further three generations, I can find nothing at all about Ann, whose maiden name caused her first daughter to be named Ann Stevens STEVENS. Trusty Familysearch cannot produce any Ann STEVENS info for a person born about 1715  anywhere in DBY, NTT or LEI. Has anyone any ideas about further places to look, please? Kind regards Joy                           ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In 1739, my 5GGP, John Stenson STEVENS and Ann STEVENS, married in Ockbrook. Although I have a large number of STEVENSes, and although I can trace John's  family back a further three generations, I can find nothing at all about Ann, whose maiden name caused her first daughter to be named Ann Stevens STEVENS. Trusty Familysearch cannot produce any Ann STEVENS info for a person born about 1715  anywhere in DBY, NTT or LEI. Has anyone any ideas about further places to look, please? Kind regards Joy

I'm trying to find more about the John Wigley who founded Wigleys Shoes in 1830. Unfortunately the contact link to the current shop doesn't function. Apart from the Derby Mercury would there have been any other newspapers covering Ashbourne in 1830?

Thanks Meg Will check the website regards Jen On 12/06/2013 5:49 PM, Meg Galley-Taylor wrote: > If you look on the website www.longlongtrail.co.uk they have a list of those > available and where they are known to be held. Sadly Buxton isn't one of > those listed. > > Meg Galley-Taylor > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:58:45 +1000 > From: Jennifer Craddock <jalden@norex.com.au> > Subject: Re: [DBY] 1918 absent voters > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <51B66835.7020507@norex.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Hi > The absent vote list may solve a puzzle for me, would any lister know if > this would be available for the Buxton (Fairfield) area kind regards Jen > > > > On 10/06/2013 10:28 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: >> Hi Peter >> >> I wish you well in your quest but just to say that not all the absent >> voters lists survive to this day >> >> I hope yours did :-) >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >> On 10/06/2013 13:18, Peter Patilla wrote: >>> Afternoon all >>> Nivard nudged me to look at the 1918 absent voters record for Crich (I > did not know of its existence). >>> This morning I went to Matlock DRO to go a-hunting. They have the >>> West Derbyshire Record which takes in Matlock, Cromford, Bonsall, > Wirksworth; this was really useful for my Lea Mills WWI research. Sadly > Crich was in this area until 1917 but then transferred to Belper area (Crich > has been moved around steadily ever since ? no-body really wants us!) Guess > what? DRO does not have a copy of this record for the Crich area. >>> Has anyone in their research come across the 1819 Absent Voter Returns > for the Belper area (which includes Crich & Whatstandwell)? I am hoping a > copy is tucked away in some other archive. >>> Thanks to Nivard for this information. >>> Peter >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DERBYSGEN list administrator, send an email to > DERBYSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the DERBYSGEN mailing list, send an email to > DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 168 > ***************************************** > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sue, Thanks for the info'. I'll check it out. Best wishes, James -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sue Brown Sent: 06 June 2013 08:38 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest,Brickwall demolition - S & T - William STAFFORD  Hello James, There is a possible marriage for John at Egginton which will be in the next upload of the marriage index. Egginton PR John Stafford, Darby, & Eliz Allkins of Burton, 1699 Feb 14 Cheers, Sue http://www.derbysmarriages1538-1837.co.uk/ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 20:01:53 +0100 From: "James Stafford" <james@staffordonline.net> Subject: Re: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S & T - William STAFFORD     b1711 To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <5BAF6ABA45BC41609EAE8728CFF3FB32@JamesHome> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii" Hello fellow family history researchers, My brick wall relates to which of the two William STAFFORDs, b1711 in Wirksworth and Kirk Ireton, respectively, was part of the Stafford line that spread out to London, Notts., Lincs., Yorks. and Lancs. The fathers of both Williams were called John and suitable candidates were baptised in Kirk Ireton in 1683 and 1674. Only one John STAFFORD marriage has been located (to Ann HALL in 1705). One of the Williams died in 1711 and was buried in Kirk Ireton, but the Parish Register does not provide for an explicit identification of the mother. A search of Sue Brown's very useful Derbyshire marriage index does not yield the missing marriage. Both of the putative fathers can be killed off, as can many of the two Williams' siblings; but a local burial of Ann STAFFORD has not been found. Does anyone have knowledge of another marriage for John STAFFORD around 1702 in the area? Base on the selection of children's names, his wife may have been called Ellen. It may be a red herring, but does anyone have any further knowledge of a John STAFFORD born in Kirk Ireton who appeared in the settlement records for Riseley in 1761 (from Mike Spencer's excellent site)? Could he be the John, son of John and Ann STAFFORD baptised in 1720 at Kirk Ireton? Thanks in advance for any thoughts. James -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charani Sent: 03 June 2013 00:00 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S & T        ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6386 - Release Date: 06/05/13 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6378 - Release Date: 06/02/13 -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 21034 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

Afternoon all Just added Kelly Directory 1925 for Crich to www.crichparish.co.uk Regards Peter

Hi Barbara, I'm part of the Repton Village History Group and am wondering if our archive could help you. I was surprised that Bretby had no consecratred ground at the time and wasn't licensed for mariages till 1911. Can I confirm that this was the Parish Church please? We're having a look for the grave and to see if there is a memorial. Next time I'm in the new records office in Matlock I'll have a hunt for the marriage. Happy hunting Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Harvey" <barbara.bh@btconnect.com> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [DBY] Brickwall demolition - S for STARTIN > My long standing brickwall is the marriage of Richard STARTIN to Mary > BERESFORD on 28 November 1780 in Repton. He was said to be "of > Doveridge" at the time. All their children were baptised in Bretby, > but Richard and Mary were buried in Repton, as Bretby had no > consecrated ground at the time and was not licensed for marriages > until 1911. Richard died in 1827 aged 74, giving a birth year of 1753. > > I hope someone can prove which Richard he was. > > Barbara of sunny St Albans > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you look on the website www.longlongtrail.co.uk they have a list of those available and where they are known to be held. Sadly Buxton isn't one of those listed. Meg Galley-Taylor   ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:58:45 +1000 From: Jennifer Craddock <jalden@norex.com.au> Subject: Re: [DBY] 1918 absent voters To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <51B66835.7020507@norex.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Hi The absent vote list may solve a puzzle for me, would any lister know if this would be available for the Buxton (Fairfield) area kind regards Jen On 10/06/2013 10:28 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Peter > > I wish you well in your quest but just to say that not all the absent > voters lists survive to this day > > I hope yours did :-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 10/06/2013 13:18, Peter Patilla wrote: >> Afternoon all >> Nivard nudged me to look at the 1918 absent voters record for Crich (I did not know of its existence). >> This morning I went to Matlock DRO to go a-hunting. They have the >> West Derbyshire Record which takes in Matlock, Cromford, Bonsall, Wirksworth; this was really useful for my Lea Mills WWI research. Sadly Crich was in this area until 1917 but then transferred to Belper area (Crich has been moved around steadily ever since ? no-body really wants us!) Guess what? DRO does not have a copy of this record for the Crich area. >> Has anyone in their research come across the 1819 Absent Voter Returns for the Belper area (which includes Crich & Whatstandwell)? I am hoping a copy is tucked away in some other archive. >> Thanks to Nivard for this information. >> Peter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the DERBYSGEN list administrator, send an email to DERBYSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the DERBYSGEN mailing list, send an email to DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 168 *****************************************

Hi The absent vote list may solve a puzzle for me, would any lister know if this would be available for the Buxton (Fairfield) area kind regards Jen On 10/06/2013 10:28 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Hi Peter > > I wish you well in your quest but just to say that not all the absent > voters lists survive to this day > > I hope yours did :-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 10/06/2013 13:18, Peter Patilla wrote: >> Afternoon all >> Nivard nudged me to look at the 1918 absent voters record for Crich (I did not know of its existence). >> This morning I went to Matlock DRO to go a-hunting. They have the West Derbyshire Record which takes in Matlock, Cromford, Bonsall, Wirksworth; this was really useful for my Lea Mills WWI research. Sadly Crich was in this area until 1917 but then transferred to Belper area (Crich has been moved around steadily ever since – no-body really wants us!) >> Guess what? DRO does not have a copy of this record for the Crich area. >> Has anyone in their research come across the 1819 Absent Voter Returns for the Belper area (which includes Crich & Whatstandwell)? I am hoping a copy is tucked away in some other archive. >> Thanks to Nivard for this information. >> Peter > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Peter I wish you well in your quest but just to say that not all the absent voters lists survive to this day I hope yours did :-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/06/2013 13:18, Peter Patilla wrote: > Afternoon all > Nivard nudged me to look at the 1918 absent voters record for Crich (I did not know of its existence). > This morning I went to Matlock DRO to go a-hunting. They have the West Derbyshire Record which takes in Matlock, Cromford, Bonsall, Wirksworth; this was really useful for my Lea Mills WWI research. Sadly Crich was in this area until 1917 but then transferred to Belper area (Crich has been moved around steadily ever since – no-body really wants us!) > Guess what? DRO does not have a copy of this record for the Crich area. > Has anyone in their research come across the 1819 Absent Voter Returns for the Belper area (which includes Crich & Whatstandwell)? I am hoping a copy is tucked away in some other archive. > Thanks to Nivard for this information. > Peter

Afternoon all Nivard nudged me to look at the 1918 absent voters record for Crich (I did not know of its existence). This morning I went to Matlock DRO to go a-hunting. They have the West Derbyshire Record which takes in Matlock, Cromford, Bonsall, Wirksworth; this was really useful for my Lea Mills WWI research. Sadly Crich was in this area until 1917 but then transferred to Belper area (Crich has been moved around steadily ever since – no-body really wants us!) Guess what? DRO does not have a copy of this record for the Crich area. Has anyone in their research come across the 1819 Absent Voter Returns for the Belper area (which includes Crich & Whatstandwell)? I am hoping a copy is tucked away in some other archive. Thanks to Nivard for this information. Peter

Hi everyone, Is any one researching UNWIN in the Chesterfield area - I have Albert Charles UNWIN married Sarah Ann HAYES (my 3 cousin) on 26 Dec 1925 in St Michael's, Brimington, Albert was the son of Charles UNWIN born 1863 in Duckmanton (from census). Charles married Annice BOTTOMLEY JunQ 1891 Chesterfield. Sarah Ann HAYES (HAYS) was born 1901 to Isaac HAYES (HAYS) and Edith GILL. Isaac HAYES is the great grand son of my 3 x gr grandfather Isaac HAYES (1796-1865) from Sutton in Ashfield, Ntts. I would love to hear from anyone researching the above families, happy hunting, Annette WATSON Lismore Australia

Hi Roy If you use the count function in freebmd you get the totals ie when searching for Unknown as a surname all events 71951 records match your query births = 4033 records match your query deaths = 67909 records match your query marriages = 9 records match your query (although one is a duplicate) The deaths being the largest amount by far, its interesting to see the period breakdown 1837 to end 1850 7425 records match your query 1851 to 1860 7725 records match your query 1861 to 1870 9869 records match your query 1871 to 1880 8426 records match your query 1881 to 1890 6980 records match your query 1891 to 1900 6704 records match your query. 1901 to 1910 5847 records match your query 1911 to 1920 5391 records match your query At which point it starts to falter as freebmd is an ongoing project but its interesting to see the amount of unknown named deaths is nearly double 1861 to 1870 compared to 1901 to 1910 In the period 1861 to 1870 6221 male unknown 3316 female unknown rather worryingly 191 were unknown unknown, they must have been in a particularly bad way :-( Compared to 1901 - 1910 4127 male unknown 1552 female unknown So it appears that its somewhat more dangerous to be the male of the species <g> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > If you enter just the surname UNKNOWN into FreeBMD you will get a message > telling you that there are more than 50,000 entries and the maximum that can be > displayed is 3,000. The number of unknown births is 4,033 and the vast > majority, of course, are deaths - the search tells you there are more than > 50,000, so lord knows what the actual number is!

I really hate having 'UNKNOWN' listed in my tree. Risking criticism from purists, I always enter the woman's name  as her spouse's, with an asterisk in front. In that way, I can  see at a glance which family she is attached to. I'm always delighted when I can substitute eg *ANTILL (Elizabeth, who  married Thomas ANTILL 1673 in Spondon) with whatever my 7GGM's maiden  name turns out to be.(Anyone know?) In extreme cases, I've been known to enter a known daughter, giving her spouse the asterisk and any offspring with a double asterisk. Eg Debbie THORNE, spouse Colin *THORNE, Child Jackie **THORNE.  At least I then know where I should be looking. Kind regards Joy ---------------------------------------- > From: roy.stockdill@btinternet.com > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 12:57:24 +0100 > Subject: Re: [DBY] Brickwall Demolition - U > > From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> > >> OK, I know there aren't THAT many surnames beginning with U but how >> many have wives in their family trees from that large well known >> family of UNKNOWN? :))

One of my voluntary projects is to help a group of WILCOCKSON researchers in the UK and USA. We're missing a vital marriage between John WILCOCKSON of Biggin near Wirksworth and a Dorothy UNKNOWN round about 1660 (between 1657 when his first wife died through to c1663/4 when Sarah, his first child with Dorothy, was born). We know Dorothy was her first name from Manor records but no marriage has surfaced yet. Btw, just in case anyone finds it, their son John jnr also married a Dorothy but we know her details, she was nee HALL of Staffs and she married John jnr at a Quaker wedding in 1686 - so that's not the one I'm after. It doesn't look as though John snr and Dorothy snr were Quakers. Anyone interested in more info about the WILCOCKSONs can find it here https://morgansite.wordpress.com/category/wilcocksons/ Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield UK On 9 June 2013 11:35, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: > OK, I know there aren't THAT many surnames beginning with U but how > many have wives in their family trees from that large well known > family of UNKNOWN? :)) > > >

From: Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> > OK, I know there aren't THAT many surnames beginning with U but how > many have wives in their family trees from that large well known > family of UNKNOWN? :)) > > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk> If you enter just the surname UNKNOWN into FreeBMD you will get a message telling you that there are more than 50,000 entries and the maximum that can be displayed is 3,000. The number of unknown births is 4,033 and the vast majority, of course, are deaths - the search tells you there are more than 50,000, so lord knows what the actual number is! However, I find it very interesting that if you look for marriages where the surname of one party was unknown there are only eight in total, seven of them women. Initially, I wondered how people managed to get married without giving their surname to the vicar or registrar, but I think there is an explanation. Purely out of interest I followed up one marriage, that of AUGUSTUS STEPTO to ROSETTA UNKNOWN at Bethnal Green in the Sep quarter of 1866 (1c 525). The GRO marriage indexes (printed) show that the entry "Unknown, Rosetta" has been added at the bottom of the page. But the actual marriage certificate is found at Ancestry's London Parish Records and quite clearly shows that the woman's name was either McLOAN or McLOON. Her father's name was given too as Matthew McLoan or McLoon, deceased. So the problem there would appear to be with the GRO indexes and not that the woman's name wasn't known. To take another example, there is an entry for HENRY UNKNOWN at Pancras in the Dec quarter of 1860 (1b 30). Look at the entry in the GRO marriage indexes and you will see that his name has been crossed through. However, again Ancestry's LMA records have a record for the marriage of Henry HARBERD to Betsy STRINGALL, so the problem again would appear to lie with the GRO indexes. I haven't checked the others but I suspect they would turn out to be the same, i.e. errors in the GRO records. But I do find the fact that FreeBMD shows more than 50,000 people who died unknown somewhat poignant. Probably many were children who died in workhouses and institutions whose identity was not known. Entering "Unknown" as the surname and the county as Derbyshire produces a substantial number of entries for births and a huge number of deaths. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

My 5GGF, Joseph UFTON 'of Breadsall' married Mary PORTER 'of Ockbrook' in Ockbrook 21 Apr 1731. I haven't managed to find anything more about them, for instance, I can't find any other Breadsall UFTONs. Has anyone made any further progress with either of these people, please?  Of their six children, Hannah, my 4GGM, m Michael STEVENS, and her brother, Joseph, m Elizabeth DOWMAN, who may well be linked with my other Ockbrook DOWMANs. Kind regards Joy > Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 11:35:03 +0100 > From: charani.b@gmail.com > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: [DBY] Brickwall Demolition - U > > OK, I know there aren't THAT many surnames beginning with U but how > many have wives in their family trees from that large well known > family of UNKNOWN? :)) > > > -- > Charani (UK) > OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, > Greinton and Clutton, SOM > http://wsom-opc.org.uk > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message