Hi Aileen Sorry I can't help re the photo and wish you well with it However if its in a rural location which are often enumerated as just "The Village" or similar you may have a problem working out which is which Addresses are a relatively new phenomenon for all houses Good luck with it though, I am sure someone with local knowledge will be able to help Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 03/07/2013 11:37, ann wrote: > > > I have a photograph of a cottage which overlooks the path to the church in Wirksworth, and I am > trying to find the address for it so I can look on the census etc. > > If anyone can help I can send the photo off list, > Very many thanks in advance > Aileen

I have a photograph of a cottage which overlooks the path to the church in Wirksworth, and I am trying to find the address for it so I can look on the census etc. If anyone can help I can send the photo off list, Very many thanks in advance Aileen

Morning all Just to say I have added Dr Alan Wilcockson's lated contribution of the 1636 Crich Visitation to the www.crichparish.co.uk site. I rather like this one as it gives an interesting insight into the character of some of the people living in Crich in 1636 and what the church thought about it. Alan has furnished me with a great many ancient documents (all translated and transcribed) since I set up the site for which I am extremely grateful. They are a historian's delight. Very soon I hope to add a link showing the Lea Mills WWI records, photographs, etc. Still hoping to get more information on the Mill, its workforce and the men who left to serve. So, if anyone has info I will be delighted to hear from you. What we have looks rather interesting. Watch this space... Peter

Hello to the list Is anyone researching the SMITH family, Wirksworth. The family is documented in Inces pedigrees on the John Palmers  Wirksworth Site Pedigree of the family of Mr John SMITH of Wirksworth worsted manufacturer & hosier descended from Tansley near Matlock drawn up from the relation of the said Mr SMITH & Mrs ROEBUCK his sister by T N Ince Wirksworth Looking for more information and possible parents to John SMITH  b 1761 wirksworth aileen

Hello folks, I have two Attestation forms (E501), both of which have "Deceased 1915" written across them. However, according to the CWGC: Alfred ELSE was KIA 01 Jul 1916 and William HALLOWS was KIA 30 Aug 1916 William HALLOWS attested on 20 March 1914 aged 17 years 4 months see www.wirksworth.org.uk/D20-HALW.htm Alfred ELSE attested on 22 May 1914 aged 17 years 7 months see www.wirksworth.org.uk/X633.htm Both young men came from the Wirksworth area The handwriting of "Deceased 1915" looks like it could have been written by the same person. Is this just a human error by a tired officer , or is there a deeper significance? Regards, John Palmer, Dorset, England Author of Wirksworth website www.wirksworth.org.uk

I and a fellow researcher have come across a puzzle which we hope someone may have an answer to. A family were are researching in the 15 and 1600's in all available documentation (wills, University entries, apprentice records etc) resided at Newton Solney. However they appear to frequent the church at Egginton as all the baptism, marriage and burials are recorded there. I realise Egginton is just across the River Dove & Trent by a ford which is no longer used now but that would involve going past Newton Solney church and was it really practicable using the ford? I know the Every family were also Lords of the Manor of Newton Solney so was this the reason Egginton church was used? Any suggestions welcome Helena www.bladon.me.uk for the surname Bladon

Thanks Graham, I've looked! Harrops seem to abound in Mottram and Tintwistle. Many of them were hatters. It just seems strange that I can find all these baptisms in Glossop and Hadfield Wesleyan and yet no marriages or burials. I have looked at most of the North West Derbs parish records but of course these children would have married after these records stop. Google is not much help and neither is FamSch or Rootsweb. I guess there is no-one else out there looking for these people. An interesting note: I did find a Joseph Harrop b 1831 in Ashton under Lyne in 1861 married to Mary E b 1837 in Stockport Lancashire(??) with a son George Thomas Harrop b 1858. From what I could see, this Joseph married Mary Elizabeth Harrison in 1855, d/o Samuel Harrison and Fanny?? Harrison is a name which naturally crops up with grim regularity in this family around this time. Given that Joseph's grandmother could have been Deborah Harrison of Garlick fame. I also noted that Betty Garlick, eldest d/o Samuel Garlick and Deborah Harrison married John Wood. His father appears to have been Martin Wood who married Hannah Garlick. Her parents were Robert Garlick and Mary Harrison (m 1814). And in addition I have John Harrison who married Clarissa Garlick in 1805 and Thomas Harrison who married Nancy Garlick in 1832 and Jonathan Garlick who married Maria Harrison in 1843 and Elijah Harrison who married Ann Elizabeth Harrison in 1884. I think I am developing another little pathway for myself here!! ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:50:27 +0100 From: Graham Hadfield <ghlists@gjh.me.uk> Subject: Re: [DBY] FW: Joseph Harrop and Martha Garlick m 1822 Glossop To: <derbysgen-D@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <0LqWAb-1UNxJR36dV-00ee2M@mrelayeu.kundenserver.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed I have a Mary Harrop in my ancestry way back (married to George Robinson 16 April 1732 in Glossop). We never did find her baptism (ca 1712) but I seem to remember (it was a long time ago we were looking) that there was a suggestion that there were Harrops in the Woodhead area around that time. That is over the Cheshire border in the parish of Mottram-in-Longdendale so it might be worth having a look there. Graham At 07:14 30/06/2013, Lynne Simpson wrote: >Hi there > >Driving myself slightly nutty looking for the family and ancestors of Joseph >Harrop, clerk, book-keeper and possibly mill manager, who was born in >Glossop or surrounds 15 Mar 1802. Joseph married Martha Garlick in Glossop >parish church on 8 Jan 1822. Martha was the daughter of Samuel Garlick and >Deborah Harrison. > >Joseph and Martha?s family progressed as follows, according to census and >parish records: > > Ann Harrop chr Apr 1822 ( in 1841; 1851 so likely to have >married MAYBE to Joseph Hadfield) > *John Harrop b Aug 1824 (probably died, appears in no census) > Thomas Harrop b Mar 1826 (in 1841; possibly informant on >grandfather?s death cert; possibly married MAYBE to Sarah Woffenden; Nancy >Ainsworth) > *Sarah Harrop b Oct 1830 (probably died, appears in no census) > Joseph Harrop b abt 1831 (in 1841; 1851 so likely to have >married) > Martha Harrop b Apr 1832 (in 1841; 1851 so likely to have >married MAYBE to Thomas Wild) > *Ruth Harrop b Jun 1835 (probably died, appears on no census) > Mary Jane Harrop b May 1837 (in 1841; 1851; 1861; probably >married) > *Rachel Harrop chr Jan 1838 (appears on no census) > >In 1841 and 1851 their address was Waterside, Padfield. In 1861 they were >living in Waterside Front Street, Hadfield. > >Joseph?s parents appear to have been Thomas Harrop and perhaps Betty >Fearnley who married in Glossop in 1798 (witnesses James & Samuel Bowden). >Both Thomas and Betty seem to have died before 1841. > >Have searched for burials but cannot find any. Have searched marriages but >obviously cannot be certain of connections to this family. > >Can anyone help?? ????.. Please! > >Cheers > >Lynne Simpson >Canberra Australia > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the DERBYSGEN list administrator, send an email to DERBYSGEN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the DERBYSGEN mailing list, send an email to DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 186 *****************************************

Hi there Driving myself slightly nutty looking for the family and ancestors of Joseph Harrop, clerk, book-keeper and possibly mill manager, who was born in Glossop or surrounds 15 Mar 1802. Joseph married Martha Garlick in Glossop parish church on 8 Jan 1822. Martha was the daughter of Samuel Garlick and Deborah Harrison. Joseph and Martha’s family progressed as follows, according to census and parish records:             Ann Harrop chr Apr 1822 ( in 1841; 1851 so likely to have married MAYBE to Joseph Hadfield)             *John Harrop b Aug 1824 (probably died, appears in no census)             Thomas Harrop b Mar 1826 (in 1841; possibly informant on grandfather’s death cert; possibly married MAYBE to Sarah Woffenden; Nancy Ainsworth)             *Sarah Harrop b Oct 1830 (probably died, appears in no census)             Joseph Harrop b abt 1831 (in 1841; 1851 so likely to have married)             Martha Harrop b Apr 1832 (in 1841; 1851 so likely to have married MAYBE to Thomas Wild)             *Ruth Harrop b Jun 1835 (probably died, appears on no census)             Mary Jane Harrop b May 1837 (in 1841; 1851; 1861; probably married)             *Rachel Harrop chr Jan 1838 (appears on no census)             In 1841 and 1851 their address was Waterside, Padfield. In 1861 they were living in Waterside Front Street, Hadfield. Joseph’s parents appear to have been Thomas Harrop and perhaps Betty Fearnley who married in Glossop in 1798 (witnesses James & Samuel Bowden). Both Thomas and Betty seem to have died before 1841. Have searched for burials but cannot find any. Have searched marriages but obviously cannot be certain of connections to this family. Can anyone help?? ………….. Please! Cheers Lynne Simpson Canberra Australia

Afternoon all I have added several new photographs to www.crichparish.co.uk Amongst these I have "strayed" across the borders to include Alderwasley So, anyone with Alderwasley connections might find the photographs of interest You will find in the Photo Album section or from the LATEST ADDITIONS link Peter

Glossop sits on the Cheshire border and many Harrop families lived in East Cheshire. There are 50 marriages of a Thomas Harrop listed in the original on FindMyPast between 1771 and 1806 - the vast majority taking place in Cheshire. For instance there is a marriage of Thomas HARROP and Mary FODEN on 29 Dec 1797 - the nearest to your date of 1798. The couple were from Withington in the parish of Prestbury, Cheshire, and the ceremony would have taken place in Prestbury. It is an original BT record. Hope this helps. Ruth

Glossop sits on the Cheshire border and many Harrop families lived in East Cheshire. There are 50 marriages of a Thomas Harrop listed in the original on Findmypast between 1771 and 1806 - the vast majority taking place in Cheshire. For instance there is a marriage of Thomas Harrop and Mary Foden on 29 Dec 1797 - the nearest to your date of 1798. The couple were from Withington in the parish of Prestbury, Cheshire and the ceremony would have taken place in Prestbury. It is an original BT record. Hope this helps. Ruth

I hadn't been to your site for a while. It is great. I hear rumors some of my family lived there but I haven't found them there yet. What a lot of work you do to keep the site up. Thanks! I've been writing my father's history and have some idea of how much time and effort go into these kinds of projects--a life time! Best wishes, Glenda On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Peter Patilla <ppatilla@mac.com> wrote: > Afternoon all > I have added several new photographs to www.crichparish.co.uk > Amongst these I have "strayed" across the borders to include Alderwasley > So, anyone with Alderwasley connections might find the photographs of interest > You will find in the Photo Album section or from the LATEST ADDITIONS link > > Peter > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you ever sort the Garlicks out Lynne I'll pay you for the results :-) Of all the Glossop area families we've looked into they are the hardest to link together as they left hardly any wills :-( I have notes of a few Harrops remotely connected to one or more of my lines in the Ashton (or maybe Stalybridge) area in the middle decades of the 19th century. I think that could well reflect the general movement between the towns at the time which seems to have resulted from mill owners raising wages to attract trained workers. Graham

I have a Mary Harrop in my ancestry way back (married to George Robinson 16 April 1732 in Glossop). We never did find her baptism (ca 1712) but I seem to remember (it was a long time ago we were looking) that there was a suggestion that there were Harrops in the Woodhead area around that time. That is over the Cheshire border in the parish of Mottram-in-Longdendale so it might be worth having a look there. Graham At 07:14 30/06/2013, Lynne Simpson wrote: >Hi there > >Driving myself slightly nutty looking for the family and ancestors of Joseph >Harrop, clerk, book-keeper and possibly mill manager, who was born in >Glossop or surrounds 15 Mar 1802. Joseph married Martha Garlick in Glossop >parish church on 8 Jan 1822. Martha was the daughter of Samuel Garlick and >Deborah Harrison. > >Joseph and Martha’s family progressed as follows, according to census and >parish records: > > Ann Harrop chr Apr 1822 ( in 1841; 1851 so likely to have >married MAYBE to Joseph Hadfield) > *John Harrop b Aug 1824 (probably died, appears in no census) > Thomas Harrop b Mar 1826 (in 1841; possibly informant on >grandfather’s death cert; possibly married MAYBE to Sarah Woffenden; Nancy >Ainsworth) > *Sarah Harrop b Oct 1830 (probably died, appears in no census) > Joseph Harrop b abt 1831 (in 1841; 1851 so likely to have >married) > Martha Harrop b Apr 1832 (in 1841; 1851 so likely to have >married MAYBE to Thomas Wild) > *Ruth Harrop b Jun 1835 (probably died, appears on no census) > Mary Jane Harrop b May 1837 (in 1841; 1851; 1861; probably >married) > *Rachel Harrop chr Jan 1838 (appears on no census) > >In 1841 and 1851 their address was Waterside, Padfield. In 1861 they were >living in Waterside Front Street, Hadfield. > >Joseph’s parents appear to have been Thomas Harrop and perhaps Betty >Fearnley who married in Glossop in 1798 (witnesses James & Samuel Bowden). >Both Thomas and Betty seem to have died before 1841. > >Have searched for burials but cannot find any. Have searched marriages but >obviously cannot be certain of connections to this family. > >Can anyone help?? ………….. Please! > >Cheers > >Lynne Simpson >Canberra Australia > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Thank you to everyone who answered my query regarding UK incoming passenger lists for the 1850's. It seems that since the U.S. has no outgoing lists & the UK has no incoming lists for that time period that my search will not be solved in that way. best regards, Sherri New Jersey, USA      

Have read the Duffield-Belper parish records available online. Found 16 males christened - mostly 1600s to 1766. One Joseph Glew in 1802 which is too late for the one I am researching b 24 Oct. 1794. With so many Glew female christenings it seems there may be more Glew researchers lurking. Please share any Glew data you have that pertains to the area of Belper/Duffield. Thanks, Bettye Heinrich

Hi Sherri There used to be a very good research guide on the National Archives but they "improved" it and now its not so good There are few incoming lists into the UK before 1878 as the board of trade routinely destroyed them Some far sighted person in authority decided they would not be needed So if you don't find lists from the Country they were leaving you are unlikely to find anything on them Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 27/06/2013 21:50, sherribob@comcast.net wrote: > Good afternoon, > > I know that there are UK incoming passenger lists covering 1878 - 1960 which are on-line. > > I am seeking Mary MIDDLETON who may have travelled from New York back to England somewhere between 1855 and 1858. > > There are no outgoing US manifests. Are there existing UK incoming passenger lists for the mid-to-late 1850's? > > Thank you, > > Sherri > from across the pond in New Jersey

Ancestry has incoming passenger lists 1878-1960 So it does not cover the time you are looking at -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Connie Sent: 27 June 2013 23:32 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] UK, Incoming Passengers 1850's sherribob@comcast.net wrote: > Good afternoon, > > I know that there are UK incoming passenger lists covering 1878 - > 1960 which are on-line. > > I am seeking Mary MIDDLETON who may have travelled from New York > back to England somewhere between 1855 and 1858. > > There are no outgoing US manifests. Are there existing UK incoming > passenger lists for the mid-to-late 1850's? Hallo There aren't any incoming passenger lists as far as I know. FindMyPast has outgoing passenger lists from 1890 to 1960 but that's all.

Connie, Thank you for your quick response. Regards, Sherri There aren't any incoming passenger lists as far as I know. FindMyPast has outgoing passenger lists from 1890 to 1960 but that's all. -- Connie

sherribob@comcast.net wrote: > Good afternoon, > > I know that there are UK incoming passenger lists covering 1878 - > 1960 which are on-line. > > I am seeking Mary MIDDLETON who may have travelled from New York > back to England somewhere between 1855 and 1858. > > There are no outgoing US manifests. Are there existing UK incoming > passenger lists for the mid-to-late 1850's? Hallo There aren't any incoming passenger lists as far as I know. FindMyPast has outgoing passenger lists from 1890 to 1960 but that's all. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/