Hello fellow listers and Derbyshire descendants, I'm heading to Roots Tech and hopefully will make a stop at the FH Library while there! I was interested by Wirksworh parish index but it seems it's not available at that time. If any of you booked it, would he/she be so kind as to let me have a peak? Many thanks and looking forward to meet Derbyshire descendants (especially Hibbert, Metcalf, Wheelhouse and Nicholls (and variants) while there! Marie -- " *Move outside your comfort zones. Push yourselves. Expect more...Don’t let the low standards and expectations of the world and others cause you to aim beneath your nobility and ability—dream big!" ". Eline S. Dalton, "Dare Great Things".* Marie Cappart Historienne-Généalogiste [email protected] [email protected] http://www.histoires-de-familles.org http://www.rtbf.be/14-18 Facebook : Marie Cappart Histoires de Familles Twitter : Histdefamilles LinkedIn : Marie Cappart IBAN : BE20377021865756 BIC : BBRUBEBB

Hi, In a family bible I have a child called 'baby' WHEELDON, born 31 Mar 1845, father Edwin WHEELDON and mother Mary Hannah HEAPY married 1843 and living in the Kirk Ireton/Ireton Wood area. However I can't find either a birth or death registration and there is no mention in the 1851 census, just his brother John Heapy WHEELDON. Is there any reason that a birth/death isn't registered - the GRO index has all subsequent siblings who were listed on the bible page. Thanks Joan Hi Joan I had a similar case with my relatives who died in Carsington. Both mother and child died and the child's death made it on to the GRO register but not the mother's. However, the mother's was on the Derbyshire Registrars Death Index on FMP, helpfully found after an appeal on this site. Have you looked there? If it's there then you will need to get the Certificate directly from the Derbyshire Record Office in Chesterfield. Hope this helps. Meg Galley-Taylor **********

> >Mark Smith posted: "This treasure comes from the >Belper-based cotton spinning company W G and J >Strutt Ltd and is a register of children dating >from May 1853 to April 1860 (D6948/14/5).  >Education was not made compulsory until 1880, so >the use of children's labour in the Str" >Respond to this post by replying above this line > > >New post on Derbyshire Record Office > > > >[] > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/markpsmith/> >[] > > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/treasure-46-register-of-child-factory-workers/>Treasure >46: Register of child factory workers > > > >by <https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/markpsmith/>Mark Smith > >This treasure comes from the Belper-based cotton >spinning company W G and J Strutt Ltd and is a >register of children dating from May 1853 to >April 1860 (D6948/14/5).  Education was not >made compulsory until 1880, so the use of >children's labour in the Strutt mills in Belper >was very >normal.<https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/treasure-46-register-of-child-factory-workers/d6948-14-5-front-2/> >d6948-14-5-front > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/treasure-46-register-of-child-factory-workers/d6948-14-5-register-2/> >d6948-14-5-register > > >The register records the reference number of >each child's certificate of employment, the >first day of employment or re-employment and >when they worked in the morning or afternoon. A >column notes when they change their group or >leave – or come to the end of their thirteenth >yeear and become classified as "young persons". ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/markpsmith/>Mark >Smith | 3 February 2017 at 10:35 am | Tags: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/1850s/>1850s, ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/belper/>Belper, ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/mills/>mills, ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/strutt/>Strutt >| Categories: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/category/50-treasures/>50 >Treasures, ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/category/news/>News >| URL: <http://wp.me/p1jCye-2NP>http://wp.me/p1jCye-2NP > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/treasure-46-register-of-child-factory-workers/#respond>Comment ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/treasure-46-register-of-child-factory-workers/#comments>See >all comments > ><https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=bba82ab2519c1b6a78d8a94fa8662ac9&email=annete%40aapt.net.au&b=LCSgx%2CT%25%2BW8Wh6%2FkLx%2Bsu%25AnpP4GhG9Z9aA%7CFD%3FQkF%3FDu%7EtM7f>Unsubscribe >to no longer receive posts from Derbyshire >Record Office. Change your email settings at ><https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=bba82ab2519c1b6a78d8a94fa8662ac9&email=annete%40aapt.net.au>Manage >Subscriptions. > >Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/treasure-46-register-of-child-factory-workers/>https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/03/treasure-46-register-of-child-factory-workers/ > ><https://wordpress.com>Thanks for flying with >[] ><https://wordpress.com> WordPress.com

Could this be your couple: 7 January 1765 at Manchester Thomas CHEESBROUGH & Elizabeth SCARLOCK both of Manchester by banns (source Ancestry’s Bishop’s Transcripts) Janet Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jackie Tanner via DERBYSGEN Sent: 03 February 2017 16:16 To: [email protected] Cc: Jackie Tanner Subject: Re: [DBY] CHEESBROUGH & SHARLOCK I have on a copy from Youlgreave Parish registers this baptism entry 3 November 1765 Alport John son of Thos. & Eliz. Chesburugh I am trying to find the marriage of Thomas & Elizabeth - I believe she is Elizabeth Sharlock but need proof. Can anyone help or direct me - Jackie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have on a copy from Youlgreave Parish registers this baptism entry 3 November 1765 Alport John son of Thos. & Eliz. Chesburugh I am trying to find the marriage of Thomas & Elizabeth - I believe she is Elizabeth Sharlock but need proof. Can anyone help or direct me - Jackie

Hi Malcolm, thank you for the STARBUCK info from the Protestation Returns, very much appreciated. I remember discussing Rev OLLERENSHAW in Lenton with you as well. If I remember rightly, a 'farm' in this context was a lease of some money-making enterprise, eg. paying to be the collector of tithes, or at a later date, collecting tolls on turnpikes. I guess temporal meant it was a non-clerical thing and something he shouldn't have been doing as a clergyman. Online dictionaries suggest that a "nightwalker" was someone who walks about at night usually with criminal intent (or perhaps in search of female company). Not what you'd think a clergyman would be doing! Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield, Derbyshire On 1 February 2017 at 23:12, Malcolm Hutton via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > There are 4 Starbucks in the 1641/2 Protestation Returns for > Nottinghamshire and all of them appear to be close to Long Eaton. > > Richard Starbuck - Bramcote > Robert Starbuck - Bramcote > Richard Starbucke - Lenton Note this is the same Parish where > the Vicar Robert Ollerenshawe had an indictment made against him on 13th > July 1629 for being a > "night walker" and > also indicted in 1635 for occupying a temperal farm. Could he have had > trouble sleeping from over indulging in coffee and what > was a 'temperal > farm'? > Jaivas? Starbacke - Wilford > > Regards Malcolm Hutton, Melbourne, Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, In a family bible I have a child called 'baby' WHEELDON, born 31 Mar 1845, father Edwin WHEELDON and mother Mary Hannah HEAPY married 1843 and living in the Kirk Ireton/Ireton Wood area. However I can't find either a birth or death registration and there is no mention in the 1851 census, just his brother John Heapy WHEELDON. Is there any reason that a birth/death isn't registered - the GRO index has all subsequent siblings who were listed on the bible page. Thanks Joan

Hi Darryl, I cannot thank you enough for this info from Sawley/Long Eaton! Also for the other snippet about the 1512 chaplain. I would love to talk to you in more depth about the STARBUCK items but also about the rest of your knowledge of Sawley pre-1700, so, hoping that it's OK, I'll email you offlist with more questions and info. Thanks again Celia Renshaw in Chesterfield, Derbyshire On 1 February 2017 at 21:18, D & A Smedley via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Cecelia, for some years I have been gathering data on the inhabitants of > Sawley, Long Eaton and Wilsthorpe prior to 1700. I now have over 1200 > entries, including the following STARBUCKS: > > 1600 John PYM of L/E mar. Alice STARBUCKE of Toten at Attenborough Notts. 27 > Jan > 1619 Edward STARBUCKE of L/E apprenticed 24 Jan to Anthony BRISTOW tyler and > bricklayer. London Apprenticeship Records, findmypast > 1619 Thomas STARBUCKE yeoman of L/E, father of the above Edward > 1638 Robert STARBUCK witness to will of Edward BURTON yeoman L/E > 1652 Thomas STARBUCKE L/E widower Admin. at PCC > 1656 William STARBUCKE L/E Michaelmas Rents DRO D51M/M9 > 1660 Thomas STARBUCK L/E Admin Lichfield > 1680 Thos STARBUCK son of Elizabeth WILLIAMS L/E widow. Will proved Sawley 2 > Dec 1685 > > Hope these may be of assistance. The Edward Starbucke apprenticeship could > be your man, particularly if he pursued that trade in Nantucket. > > Cheers, > > Darryl > Sydney Australia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> >Becky, Archivist posted: "Have you seen us in the latest issue of >Who do you think you are? magazine? There's a whole Derbyshire >feature with a special focus on the family history resources >available at the Record Office, plus a directory of other local >services and onli" >Respond to this post by replying above this line > > >New post on Derbyshire Record Office > > > >[] > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/rebeccasheldon22/> >[] > > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/01/25/were-featured/>We're featured! > > > >by ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/rebeccasheldon22/>Becky, Archivist > >Have you seen us in the latest issue of Who do you think you are? >magazine? There's a whole Derbyshire feature with a special focus on >the family history resources available at the Record Office, plus a >directory of other local services and online resources for >Derbyshire family history >new-picture-1 > >new-picture-2 > >new-picture-3 > > >new-picture-4 > > >If you have a Derby or Derbyshire library card, you can read the >full feature via the libraries e-magazine service - find out more >and how to access the magazine by clicking ><http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/leisure/libraries/ebooks/emagazines/default.asp>here ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/rebeccasheldon22/>Becky, >Archivist | 25 January 2017 at 6:55 pm | Categories: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/category/news/>News | URL: ><http://wp.me/p1jCye-2MD>http://wp.me/p1jCye-2MD > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/01/25/were-featured/#respond>Comment ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/01/25/were-featured/#comments>See >all comments > ><https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=bba82ab2519c1b6a78d8a94fa8662ac9&email=annete%40aapt.net.au&b=fYLsRpy2%2C%5DBp_JdWW%5BKy%5BeyFbG9cgW5Gjt%7CRrJs-GwLyi1VJ8>Unsubscribe >to no longer receive posts from Derbyshire Record Office. Change >your email settings at ><https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=bba82ab2519c1b6a78d8a94fa8662ac9&email=annete%40aapt.net.au>Manage >Subscriptions. > >Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/01/25/were-featured/>https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/01/25/were-featured/ > ><https://wordpress.com>Thanks for flying with >[] ><https://wordpress.com> WordPress.com

There are 4 Starbucks in the 1641/2 Protestation Returns for Nottinghamshire and all of them appear to be close to Long Eaton. Richard Starbuck - Bramcote Robert Starbuck - Bramcote Richard Starbucke - Lenton Note this is the same Parish where the Vicar Robert Ollerenshawe had an indictment made against him on 13th July 1629 for being a "night walker" and also indicted in 1635 for occupying a temperal farm. Could he have had trouble sleeping from over indulging in coffee and what was a 'temperal farm'? Jaivas? Starbacke - Wilford Regards Malcolm Hutton, Melbourne, Australia

Thanks Maree I look forward to finding out what you discover. It would also be interesting to know if anyone on the list descended from Gadsby of Cubley has had a DNA test. Thanks Stephen Sent from my iPhone

Better than that Irene, I have Treece/Trace etc. ancestry myself in Sawley. My 6Ggrandparents are William & Elizabeth TREES who arrived in Sawley, possibly from Barton-in-Fabis or thereabouts, about 1711. I will e-mail you direct. Regards, Darryl > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 21:22:39 +0000 > From: Irene Doody <[email protected]> > To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DBY] New STARBUCK article > Message-ID: > <[email protected]od.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Dear Darryl, > I wonder do you have any Treece/Treice/Treece families on your data base? > I have been researching my family for many years now. > Thank you. > Irene Treece >

Missed one: 1512 Thomas STERBUCK of Sallow chaplain, defendent in debtors claim. Common Plea Rolls at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/ Cheers, Darryl

Hi Cecelia, for some years I have been gathering data on the inhabitants of Sawley, Long Eaton and Wilsthorpe prior to 1700. I now have over 1200 entries, including the following STARBUCKS: 1600 John PYM of L/E mar. Alice STARBUCKE of Toten at Attenborough Notts. 27 Jan 1619 Edward STARBUCKE of L/E apprenticed 24 Jan to Anthony BRISTOW tyler and bricklayer. London Apprenticeship Records, findmypast 1619 Thomas STARBUCKE yeoman of L/E, father of the above Edward 1638 Robert STARBUCK witness to will of Edward BURTON yeoman L/E 1652 Thomas STARBUCKE L/E widower Admin. at PCC 1656 William STARBUCKE L/E Michaelmas Rents DRO D51M/M9 1660 Thomas STARBUCK L/E Admin Lichfield 1680 Thos STARBUCK son of Elizabeth WILLIAMS L/E widow. Will proved Sawley 2 Dec 1685 Hope these may be of assistance. The Edward Starbucke apprenticeship could be your man, particularly if he pursued that trade in Nantucket. Cheers, Darryl Sydney Australia

My family originate from Barton in Fabis too. I have been researching them for over 40 years now. We are probably from the same line. Irene > On 1 Feb 2017, at 21:51, D & A Smedley via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Better than that Irene, I have Treece/Trace etc. ancestry myself in Sawley. My 6Ggrandparents are William & Elizabeth TREES who arrived in Sawley, possibly from Barton-in-Fabis or thereabouts, about 1711. I will e-mail you direct. > > Regards, Darryl >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 21:22:39 +0000 >> From: Irene Doody <[email protected]> >> To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [DBY] New STARBUCK article >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]od.outlook.com> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Dear Darryl, >> I wonder do you have any Treece/Treice/Treece families on your data base? >> I have been researching my family for many years now. >> Thank you. >> Irene Treece >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I too found it very interesting as this is the area I live in. > On 1 Feb 2017, at 21:21, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well folks > > Often the ones you look forward to turn out to be the worst and least entertaining > > but not on this occasion, for me at least > > I thoroughly enjoyed the show tonight, nothing earth shattering happened, no startling revelations, yet it was for me one of the most enjoyable for a long while > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 01-Feb-17 10:09 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: >> >> Don't forget WDYTYA is on tonight at 8pm >> >> Its Greg Davies tonight >> >> Stand up comedian and actor >> >> If you have seen the Taskmaster he is that Taskmaster ;-) >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Darryl, I wonder do you have any Treece/Treice/Treece families on your data base? I have been researching my family for many years now. Thank you. Irene Treece > On 1 Feb 2017, at 21:19, D & A Smedley via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Cecelia, for some years I have been gathering data on the inhabitants of Sawley, Long Eaton and Wilsthorpe prior to 1700. I now have over 1200 entries, including the following STARBUCKS: > > 1600 John PYM of L/E mar. Alice STARBUCKE of Toten at Attenborough Notts. 27 Jan > 1619 Edward STARBUCKE of L/E apprenticed 24 Jan to Anthony BRISTOW tyler and bricklayer. London Apprenticeship Records, findmypast > 1619 Thomas STARBUCKE yeoman of L/E, father of the above Edward > 1638 Robert STARBUCK witness to will of Edward BURTON yeoman L/E > 1652 Thomas STARBUCKE L/E widower Admin. at PCC > 1656 William STARBUCKE L/E Michaelmas Rents DRO D51M/M9 > 1660 Thomas STARBUCK L/E Admin Lichfield > 1680 Thos STARBUCK son of Elizabeth WILLIAMS L/E widow. Will proved Sawley 2 Dec 1685 > > Hope these may be of assistance. The Edward Starbucke apprenticeship could be your man, particularly if he pursued that trade in Nantucket. > > Cheers, > > Darryl > Sydney Australia > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well folks Often the ones you look forward to turn out to be the worst and least entertaining but not on this occasion, for me at least I thoroughly enjoyed the show tonight, nothing earth shattering happened, no startling revelations, yet it was for me one of the most enjoyable for a long while Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 01-Feb-17 10:09 AM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > > Don't forget WDYTYA is on tonight at 8pm > > Its Greg Davies tonight > > Stand up comedian and actor > > If you have seen the Taskmaster he is that Taskmaster ;-) > > >

At 14:52 01/02/2017, Marie wrote: >That was very interesting. I like the FAN club. I'm beginning to think I need to research >everyone who married an early Broadley in Yorkshire, Marie in Cheshire Let me know when you do :-) I've a few Micklethwaite-Broadley connections there. Best Wishes, Andy

Hi Marie, the FAN club certainly can work - it has for me in early-date research, more than once - but it can also be a lot of fruitless work too, which is why I (nearly) punched the air when John WORTHINGTON of Bingham mentioned his STARBUCK in-laws. However, it can be very interesting too, to broaden the approach and look at communities and networks surrounding the ancestors, especially for those of our folk who were religious dissenters! Good hunting, Celia Renshaw Chesterfield, Derbyshire www.morgansite.wordpress.com On 1 February 2017 at 14:52, Marie ball via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 01/02/2017 08:00, [email protected] wrote: >> >> 1. New STARBUCK article (Celia Renshaw) >> 2. Re: New STARBUCK article (David L. Langenberg) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:04:07 +0000 >> From: Celia Renshaw <[email protected]> >> To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> >> Subject: [DBY] New STARBUCK article >> Message-ID: >> >> <[email protected]om> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hi listers, some of you may be interested in the latest article I've >> added to my blog: >> >> https://morgansite.wordpress.com/2017/01/31/discovered-probably-the-grandmother-of-edward-starbuck/ >> >> This is the latest news in the quest to find origins of Edward >> Starbuck, who took that surname to New England in the 1630s and on to >> Nantucket afterwards. He is reputed to have been a Derbyshire man, >> though we still have no absolute proof of that. The surname is rare, >> but occurs most often in the area of Sawley, Draycott, Breaston, Long >> Eaton and in nearby parts of Notts - Toton, Attenborough and >> Nottingham particularly (so I shall post this to Notts list too). >> >> Celia Renshaw >> www.morgansite.wordpress.com >> >> >> That was very interesting. I like the FAN club. I'm beginning to think I >> need to research everyone who married an early Broadley in Yorkshire, Marie >> in Cheshire >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message