Peter, Great! I'll have a look. I don't have Lynams in my family, but the name is not unknown in this part of the Delaware River valley. They are descended no doubt from English Quakers who settled in Pennsylvania in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. I have a feeling there might be a Derbyshire connection. David Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 20, 2017, at 7:19 AM, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Good morning > Just to announce the launch of my new website about the Derbyshire Lynams which can be found at www.lynamhistory.uk <http://www.lynamhistory.uk/> > > When I was researching my wife’s family (she was a Lynam) I came across the late Valerie Jones (nee Lynam) who was a one-name Derbyshire Lynam researcher. As other folk found she was most generous and helpful with her research and it was a pleasure to work alongside her for many years. > Thanks to Davina Bradley a friend and co-researcher of Val’s (who inherited all her Lynam records and database) I have been given long-term loan of all this work and thought the best way of sharing this was to create a website of Derbyshire Lynams. > > The site is very new (online today) and will slowly develop over the coming months. I have put the main Lynam data base online as a start (this will be added to) To ensure no living Lynam is included I have put a cut-off that no Lynam born after 1920 without a death date be included other than a surname marker (no dates or other data included). > > The site looks pretty basic at the moment but this will improve as I get more proficient (hopefully). > > I must thank Davina Bradley for trusting me with all this material (it will save me vacuuming a quarter of my office floor space) and also to Andy Micklethwaite whose casual flip comment about the ease of doing this via my Reunion Family History programme was so obvious that I had not considered it. If anyone else uses Reunion it only takes a couple of clicks to produce a web-copy of a database. > > As a help, if anyone has a Derbyshire Lynam who served in WW1 would they let me know as it will save a lot of searching. > > Peter > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What a lovely person, with a very lovely family, his tree very much shaped him. Topiary and Levens Hall should have appeared in his past. > On 16 Feb 2017, at 18:47, Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes I thought he came across as very genuine, and delighted to find out > anything about his family. > Lin > > > In a message dated 16/02/2017 16:45:33 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I would agree > > I also thought it a good episode, nothing to controversial or > outstanding, much like most peoples own research > > He came across very well didn't he, and far more genuine than a great > many others > > I liked him before, and like him better now for seeing it > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 16-Feb-17 12:00 PM, Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> I really enjoyed this episode, and although there was nothing 'earth >> shattering' he came over extremely well and interested in all that he > found out >> about his family. I've never spoken to him but have seen him a few > times >> when he has been out shopping with his wife and family. >> >> Lin > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would agree I also thought it a good episode, nothing to controversial or outstanding, much like most peoples own research He came across very well didn't he, and far more genuine than a great many others I liked him before, and like him better now for seeing it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16-Feb-17 12:00 PM, Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I really enjoyed this episode, and although there was nothing 'earth > shattering' he came over extremely well and interested in all that he found out > about his family. I've never spoken to him but have seen him a few times > when he has been out shopping with his wife and family. > > Lin

Yes I thought he came across as very genuine, and delighted to find out anything about his family. Lin In a message dated 16/02/2017 16:45:33 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I would agree I also thought it a good episode, nothing to controversial or outstanding, much like most peoples own research He came across very well didn't he, and far more genuine than a great many others I liked him before, and like him better now for seeing it Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16-Feb-17 12:00 PM, Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I really enjoyed this episode, and although there was nothing 'earth > shattering' he came over extremely well and interested in all that he found out > about his family. I've never spoken to him but have seen him a few times > when he has been out shopping with his wife and family. > > Lin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> >Sarah Chubb posted: " Just before Christmas I >flicked through a couple of diaries written in >the period 1793-1820. I love reading diaries and >letters. Through them, I feel like I know the >people who wrote them; they become familiar >friends and their world, even if 200 year" >Respond to this post by replying above this line > > >New post on Derbyshire Record Office > > > >[] > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/sarahchubb/> >[] > > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/15/introducing-william-porden/>Introducing >William Porden… > > > >by <https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/sarahchubb/>Sarah Chubb > >d3311-5-1-000002 > > >Portrait of William Porden (D3311/5/1) > >Just before Christmas I flicked through a couple >of diaries written in the period 1793-1820. I >love reading diaries and letters. Through them, >I feel like I know the people who wrote them; >they become familiar friends and their world, >even if 200 years old, seems as real as our own. > >I thought I would share some of the diary >entries in this blog, partly just because I like >them (a good enough reason in itself - that's >partly what this blog is for), but also because >their author, William Porden, is a Hull man and >so we can do our bit to celebrate Hull's status as City of Culture 2017. > >So firstly, a quick explanation about the man >himself. In his first diary and commonplace >book, he notes family events, but interestingly, >it looks as if he didn't know the date of his >own birth.  He records himself thus: > >W Porden son of Thomas & Hannah Porden of >Kingston upon Hull was Baptised January the 29th >1755 as St Mary's Church and it is supposed his >Birth was sometime in December preceding. > >An eminent architect of his day, he lived in >London and his most famous surviving building is >the riding school and stables at the Brighton >Pavilion, built 1803-1808, which is now the Brighton Dome Concert Hall. > ><https://recordoffice.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/brighton-dome.jpg> >Brighton Pavilion Stables > > >Brighton Pavilion Stables > >If you're wondering why on earth his papers are >held at Derbyshire Record Office, it's >because William Porden's daughter, Eleanor Anne >Porden (1795-1825), was the first wife of Sir >John Franklin (1786-1847), who famously led a >disastrous voyage of Arctic exploration along >the Northwest Passage in 1845 (you'll find >more<https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/?s=Franklin> >blog posts about this here). Their daughter, >Eleanor Isabella Franklin, married into the Gell >family of Hopton Hall, Derbyshire, and so her >mother's and maternal grandfather's papers came >with her into the family and now form part of >our Gell collection D3311 - it all makes sense in a way! > >William Porden didn't use his diaries to >record his everyday life, but begins his diary in May 1793: > >If every man would treasure the Observation, >which he makes in his Journey through life and >Register the remarks of others he would soon >collect an abundance of knowledge and preserve >the means of amusing many a future hour. I have >often made this remark and I have often resolved >to put the matter in execution nay I have >frequently begun to do so; but idleness and want >of perseverance has rendered it of little >effect. I again resolve to do so and I now >again begin to register what has occurred during >a Journey of three or four days. I dare not >flatter myself that I shall be more steady than >I have been – but I will try – Whatever may be >the end I shall considerder all that is got as gain. > >I confess to also being guilty of occasional >idleness and want of perseverance in my blog >posts, and may also not be more steady than I >have been - but I, too, will try. In the >next post, we journey with Mr Porden on the London to Guildford stage... ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/sarahchubb/>Sarah >Chubb | 15 February 2017 at 1:00 pm | Tags: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/diaries/>Diaries, ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/william-porden/>William >Porden | Categories: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/category/curiosities/>Curiosities >| URL: <http://wp.me/p1jCye-2KT>http://wp.me/p1jCye-2KT > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/15/introducing-william-porden/#respond>Comment ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/15/introducing-william-porden/#comments>See >all comments > ><https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=bba82ab2519c1b6a78d8a94fa8662ac9&email=annete%40aapt.net.au&b=0%2FnnKu%26gf%25vJl%3F%3DvD%7EmXxt%3FazXoujEcUcud_4jovbNzz08V.N>Unsubscribe >to no longer receive posts from Derbyshire >Record Office. 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I really enjoyed this episode, and although there was nothing 'earth shattering' he came over extremely well and interested in all that he found out about his family. I've never spoken to him but have seen him a few times when he has been out shopping with his wife and family. Lin

Apologies to Warwick I got his surname wrong :-( Warwick Ashley DAVIS it should be Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15-Feb-17 1:47 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > > After a break WDYTYA returns tonight at 8pm on the Beeb > > Tonights is on Warwick DAVIES > > Accomplished actor in a string of block busters, various Star Wars, > Harry Potters etc etc >

After a break WDYTYA returns tonight at 8pm on the Beeb Tonights is on Warwick DAVIES Accomplished actor in a string of block busters, various Star Wars, Harry Potters etc etc -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Thank you so much Nivard. That is what I meant lol. It's been a very long day at work. Thank you again, very much appreciated x Sent from my iPad > On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:22, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Vanda > > There is no 1936 census, I suspect you are referring to the 1939 National Identity Register > > Its not a census although has some details similar, it was to register everyone with war looming to enable the authorities to issue identity cards and later ration cards > > So by and large people gave accurate details > > In Chapel en le Frith in 1939 > > Horderne road > Wiiliam J THORNTON male born 8th Oct 1896 married Motor Driver & Mechanic, & special constable > Mary THORNTON female born 9th Jan 1898 married unpaid domestic duties > Plus one closed record, possibly a child of theirs? > > In theory all those born before 1916 should be open, as well as any who have passed away and their death registered in Eng/Wales > > Or users have submitted proof of death > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 14-Feb-17 9:55 PM, Vanda Hopwood via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Hello, I am trying to help a friend find her grandfather, John William THORNTON. All she knows is that his wife was Mary and he died in Chapel-en-le-Frith in 1955 aged 59 (born c. 1896) He was a special constable. Would someone with access to the 1936 census be able to look him up for me please? >> Thank you in advance, Vanda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Vanda There is no 1936 census, I suspect you are referring to the 1939 National Identity Register Its not a census although has some details similar, it was to register everyone with war looming to enable the authorities to issue identity cards and later ration cards So by and large people gave accurate details In Chapel en le Frith in 1939 Horderne road Wiiliam J THORNTON male born 8th Oct 1896 married Motor Driver & Mechanic, & special constable Mary THORNTON female born 9th Jan 1898 married unpaid domestic duties Plus one closed record, possibly a child of theirs? In theory all those born before 1916 should be open, as well as any who have passed away and their death registered in Eng/Wales Or users have submitted proof of death Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14-Feb-17 9:55 PM, Vanda Hopwood via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hello, I am trying to help a friend find her grandfather, John William THORNTON. All she knows is that his wife was Mary and he died in Chapel-en-le-Frith in 1955 aged 59 (born c. 1896) He was a special constable. Would someone with access to the 1936 census be able to look him up for me please? > Thank you in advance, Vanda

Hello, I am trying to help a friend find her grandfather, John William THORNTON. All she knows is that his wife was Mary and he died in Chapel-en-le-Frith in 1955 aged 59 (born c. 1896) He was a special constable. Would someone with access to the 1936 census be able to look him up for me please? Thank you in advance, Vanda Sent from my iPad

Those STAFFORD researchers who have traced their forefathers back to Derbyshire will soon discover that their journey has only just started. Unravelling the numerous STAFFORD families is made more difficult by their high incidence in the 1841 and 1851 censuses. Indeed Derbyshire and the NE corner of Lancashire and Cheshire had the highest frequency of STAFFORDs in England. I've mapped the distributions and the results and some conclusions can be found on my site at https://fhr.staffordonline.net/ on which I'm hoping to add some more consolidated STAFFORD historical data. Coupled with documented evidence for two very old STAFFORD gentry lines at Botham Hall (Bottoms) and Eyam we could speculate that there is a high degree of interrelatedness amongst the various modern STAFFORD families from Derbyshire compared to the rest of the UK. I'm hoping to test this hypothesis by recruiting male STAFFORD volunteers to submit a sample for y-DNA testing. More details can be found on my site as well as an article identifying Victorian newspaper reports of Derbyshire STAFFORD men who claimed to be descended from the Baronial STAFFORD line! James

Hello all, Thanks to a list member I have been notified that they received a Derbysgen List e-mail supposedly from me that had with it an attachment. I did not send that e-mail, so would apologise to any list member that may have received a similar e-mail. It is most certainly spam, and therefore mischievous. I would suggest that you delete the e-mail, and do not open the attachment. I have not posted to Derbysgen for quite some time, and again would apologise for any inconvenience caused. Regards, Alan S. Flint

In my quest to try and find out about unnamed baby WHEELDON I contacted DFHS to see if they could help with Kirk Ireton parish registers. And it turns out that they have a CD of them although I'm not sure how complete it is as yet but I will feedback when I have had chance to look at the CD. On making further enquiries I was told that when Ancestral Archives closed down DFHS were given about 100 parish registers on CD although they are not listed on the WEB site. I now have a list of the available CDs (on paper only) so if anyone is interested I can send a scanned copy or I can just check the list. I'm not sure how much duplication there is between these and Familysearch images. Joan

Hi James I am posting here in the hope you see it and perhaps to inform others You have repeatedly posted with the list address in the bcc field which results in it being rejected Please note you cannot bcc the *list address* it *must* be in the *To* field or it will be rejected Many thanks -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hello Kathryn Thanks for your advice. I did copy the web pages into Word a few years ago, have since tidied them up, and am extracting information of interest into my family history program. I have tremendous respect and gratitude to John Palmer, and his supporters such as you who have produced a hugely useful resource in www.wirksworth.org. However, I wanted access to a pdf copy of Ince's Pedigrees for three reasons: 1. As a matter of principal, I always treat transcriptions with a little circumspection until I have seen the original source document. I have found a lot of transcription errors in various documents over the years including, for example, in FreeBMD whose transcription checking process I had thought would have been foolproof 2. With old handwritten documents, there is often some interpretation required of problematical writing, and different transcribers may come to different conclusions. Whilst also prone to false conclusions, a transcriber who has prior knowledge of what he/she is looking for may come to the most likely one 3. Just today, I have come across two instances on www.wirksworth.org where a date given in the Ince transcription is different from that given in the PR transcription. There are a number of possible reasons for this, and it is only possible to narrow them down by reviewing the two source documents Kind regards Nick ------ Original Message ------ From: "Kathryn Morano" <[email protected]> To: "Nick Higton" <[email protected]>; "Derbyshire genealogy" <[email protected]> Sent: 10/02/2017 20:42:09 Subject: Re: [DBY] Ince's Pedigrees >Dear Nick, > >The simplest thing to do is go to the web page, copy the pages you are >interested in and save them to WORD. I did a lot of the transcriptions >for the website, and the original pages are hard to read and rather >large. You're better off using the transcriptions. > >Kathryn Morano > >-----Original Message----- From: Nick Higton via DERBYSGEN >Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 2:02 PM >To: Derbyshire list >Cc: Nick Higton >Subject: [DBY] Ince's Pedigrees > >Does anyone have a pdf copy of Ince's Pedigrees, please? I was hoping >to obtain one from John Palmer (of www.wirksworth.org fame), but he >hasn't been responding to letters and email for the past six months, at >least. I fear this may not be good news. >In case anyone doesn't know, www.wirksworth.org explains: >"Thomas Norris INCE was a solicitor in Wirksworth born 1799 and died >1860. During his working life he compiled a 484 page handwritten book >entitled: "PEDIGREES & sketches of pedigrees of families in-about >WIRKSWORTH etc". The book is a potential goldmine for local genealogy >because of its circumstances and date. It contains some 1,000 Pedigrees >and mentions about 20,000 people with sometimes a lot of personal >detail. " >The book is available as a photocopy and on microfilm in Derby Local >Studies Library, but I can't get there easily, and I'd like to print >off >some pages from the original manuscript so I can annotate them as I >research my ancestors in Wirksworth. >Thanks >Nick Higton >Kenilworth >Warwickshire >email: [email protected] > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >https://www.avast.com/antivirus >

> >Mark Smith posted: "This treasure (Q/RP/2/207) >is a plan of a proposed railway to Mapperley >Colliery, submitted to the Quarter Sessions >Court in 1889 by the Great Northern Railway. It >shows the line between the Heanor branch and the >Midland Railway branch to Mapperley Collie" >Respond to this post by replying above this line > > >New post on Derbyshire Record Office > > > >[] > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/markpsmith/> >[] > > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/treasure-47-plan-of-proposed-railway-to-mapperley-colliery/>Treasure >47: Plan of proposed railway to Mapperley Colliery > > > >by <https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/markpsmith/>Mark Smith > >This treasure (Q/RP/2/207) is a plan of a >proposed railway to Mapperley Colliery, >submitted to the Quarter Sessions Court in 1889 >by the Great Northern Railway. It shows the line >between the Heanor branch and the Midland Railway branch to Mapperley Colliery. > >aph-mapperley-rail-plan-02 > > >This is one of over three hundred railway plans >and books of reference in the Quarter Sessions >collection – the reason we have them is thaat >from 1792 onwards, anyone who planned to build a >canal, turnpike road or railway had to deposit >plans with the Clerk of the Peace for any affected county. > >aph-mapperley-rail-plan-01 > > >If you would like to support our work by >adopting this document, for yourself or as a >gift, have a look at the ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/adopt/>Adopt A Piece Of History page ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/author/markpsmith/>Mark >Smith | 10 February 2017 at 5:10 pm | Tags: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/1880s/>1880s, ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/colliery/>colliery, ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/heanor/>Heanor, ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/mapperley/>Mapperley, ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/tag/railways/>Railways >| Categories: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/category/news/>News >| URL: <http://wp.me/p1jCye-2OD>http://wp.me/p1jCye-2OD > ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/treasure-47-plan-of-proposed-railway-to-mapperley-colliery/#respond>Comment ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/treasure-47-plan-of-proposed-railway-to-mapperley-colliery/#comments>See >all comments > ><https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=bba82ab2519c1b6a78d8a94fa8662ac9&email=annete%40aapt.net.au&b=Ls-jts2F%2FmVWh6%2FVlGL3%7E%26i.nOxKfqimvYwqgSUM%7EPStB%5DN1Y%25>Unsubscribe >to no longer receive posts from Derbyshire >Record Office. Change your email settings at ><https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=bba82ab2519c1b6a78d8a94fa8662ac9&email=annete%40aapt.net.au>Manage >Subscriptions. > >Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: ><https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/treasure-47-plan-of-proposed-railway-to-mapperley-colliery/>https://recordoffice.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/treasure-47-plan-of-proposed-railway-to-mapperley-colliery/ > ><https://wordpress.com>Thanks for flying with >[] ><https://wordpress.com> WordPress.com

Does anyone have a pdf copy of Ince's Pedigrees, please? I was hoping to obtain one from John Palmer (of www.wirksworth.org fame), but he hasn't been responding to letters and email for the past six months, at least. I fear this may not be good news. In case anyone doesn't know, www.wirksworth.org explains: "Thomas Norris INCE was a solicitor in Wirksworth born 1799 and died 1860. During his working life he compiled a 484 page handwritten book entitled: "PEDIGREES & sketches of pedigrees of families in-about WIRKSWORTH etc". The book is a potential goldmine for local genealogy because of its circumstances and date. It contains some 1,000 Pedigrees and mentions about 20,000 people with sometimes a lot of personal detail. " The book is available as a photocopy and on microfilm in Derby Local Studies Library, but I can't get there easily, and I'd like to print off some pages from the original manuscript so I can annotate them as I research my ancestors in Wirksworth. Thanks Nick Higton Kenilworth Warwickshire email: [email protected]

Dear Nick, The simplest thing to do is go to the web page, copy the pages you are interested in and save them to WORD. I did a lot of the transcriptions for the website, and the original pages are hard to read and rather large. You're better off using the transcriptions. Kathryn Morano -----Original Message----- From: Nick Higton via DERBYSGEN Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 2:02 PM To: Derbyshire list Cc: Nick Higton Subject: [DBY] Ince's Pedigrees Does anyone have a pdf copy of Ince's Pedigrees, please? I was hoping to obtain one from John Palmer (of www.wirksworth.org fame), but he hasn't been responding to letters and email for the past six months, at least. I fear this may not be good news. In case anyone doesn't know, www.wirksworth.org explains: "Thomas Norris INCE was a solicitor in Wirksworth born 1799 and died 1860. During his working life he compiled a 484 page handwritten book entitled: "PEDIGREES & sketches of pedigrees of families in-about WIRKSWORTH etc". The book is a potential goldmine for local genealogy because of its circumstances and date. It contains some 1,000 Pedigrees and mentions about 20,000 people with sometimes a lot of personal detail. " The book is available as a photocopy and on microfilm in Derby Local Studies Library, but I can't get there easily, and I'd like to print off some pages from the original manuscript so I can annotate them as I research my ancestors in Wirksworth. Thanks Nick Higton Kenilworth Warwickshire email: [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Lin Glad to hear it all went well Thank you also for the update which will no doubt help others who also have concerns Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07-Feb-17 5:16 PM, Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I received the email today to say that I was now eligible for the free > upgrade so took the plunge! It was a scary at first as I thought it wasn't > going to work but just left it alone for half an hour, came back to the > computer and all finished. The only thing that took a bit of time to work out, > was how to get the tile onto the computer but it simply appeared on its own > eventually. > > So 'mission accomplished'! Thank you to all of you who offered advice and > support, as always much appreciated. > > Lin