And these records are all held at TNA yes?  Perhaps I can look at them when I am over there in May Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:42, Jodie Williams via DERBYSGEN<[email protected]> wrote: I have tried seven differentry places in Derbyshire with no luck.  Am I doing something wrong? Jodie Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android   On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:34, taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN<[email protected]> wrote:  The instructions on the web site are plain enough if they are read. You carry out a search. If the results of your search are negative in that place names do not appear, then it would seem that that particular parish or even county are not part of the record held. The information on the web site clearly states that the Returns are only held for about one third of counties. Perhpas I have been lucky in my searches but I have been able to access the records for a large part of Buckinghamshire, Lancashire and Cumberland. I am also informed by the site that the information I am looking for in Staffs is part of the process but is not yet held online. Either records being searched for are not part of the Returns or are not yet online. In time this will be a valuable resource. Linda On 26 March 2017 at 22:37, carole williams via DERBYSGEN < [email protected]> wrote: > Is there anything on this 'archives maps search' website that's not > available on the TNA website? > > > See http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=protestation+ > returns+1642 > > > Carole > > The National Archives | Search results:protestation returns 1642< > http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=protestation+ > returns+1642> > discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk > The official archive of the UK government. Our vision is to lead and > transform information management, guarantee the survival of today's > information for tomorrow and bring history to life for everyone. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bob Butler <[email protected]> > Sent: 26 March 2017 22:23 > To: Derbyshire genealogy; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: carole williams > Subject: RE: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? > > I agree - it is not very obvious what to do next - clicking on to the map > view does not appear to make things easier! > > A few brief tips on how to proceed would be very welcome. > > Thanks in advance. > > Bob > Nottingham > > -----Original Message----- > From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:derbysgen-bounces+thebutlersandbeyond=hotmail. > [email protected]] On Behalf Of carole williams via DERBYSGEN > Sent: 26 March 2017 21:21 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > com; [email protected]; Derbyshire genealogy < > [email protected]> > Cc: carole williams <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? > > I can get through to the Portcullis website ok, and find the highlighted > line. However, I'm lost after that....  Please could someone advise what to > do next? > > > Carole > > ________________________________ > From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > on behalf of taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > Sent: 26 March 2017 16:55 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > com; Derbyshire genealogy; [email protected] > Cc: taxwizzard > Subject: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? > > I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of > anyone who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. > > By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an > oath of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were > duly inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to > Parliament. > In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually > a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive > for about a third of English counties. > > These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available > online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have > where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, > particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. > > Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map > and then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All > free of charge. > > http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ > Home - Map Search - Parliamentary Archives<http://archivesmapsearch.labs. > parliament.uk/> > archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk > This is a prototype service which allows you to search for records from > the Parliament Archives online catalogue by place. There is currently one > set of records ... > > > > > Have fun > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have tried seven differentry places in Derbyshire with no luck.  Am I doing something wrong? Jodie Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 12:34, taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN<[email protected]> wrote: The instructions on the web site are plain enough if they are read. You carry out a search. If the results of your search are negative in that place names do not appear, then it would seem that that particular parish or even county are not part of the record held. The information on the web site clearly states that the Returns are only held for about one third of counties. Perhpas I have been lucky in my searches but I have been able to access the records for a large part of Buckinghamshire, Lancashire and Cumberland. I am also informed by the site that the information I am looking for in Staffs is part of the process but is not yet held online. Either records being searched for are not part of the Returns or are not yet online. In time this will be a valuable resource. Linda On 26 March 2017 at 22:37, carole williams via DERBYSGEN < [email protected]> wrote: > Is there anything on this 'archives maps search' website that's not > available on the TNA website? > > > See http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=protestation+ > returns+1642 > > > Carole > > The National Archives | Search results:protestation returns 1642< > http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=protestation+ > returns+1642> > discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk > The official archive of the UK government. Our vision is to lead and > transform information management, guarantee the survival of today's > information for tomorrow and bring history to life for everyone. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bob Butler <[email protected]> > Sent: 26 March 2017 22:23 > To: Derbyshire genealogy; [email protected]; > [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: carole williams > Subject: RE: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? > > I agree - it is not very obvious what to do next - clicking on to the map > view does not appear to make things easier! > > A few brief tips on how to proceed would be very welcome. > > Thanks in advance. > > Bob > Nottingham > > -----Original Message----- > From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:derbysgen-bounces+thebutlersandbeyond=hotmail. > [email protected]] On Behalf Of carole williams via DERBYSGEN > Sent: 26 March 2017 21:21 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > com; [email protected]; Derbyshire genealogy < > [email protected]> > Cc: carole williams <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? > > I can get through to the Portcullis website ok, and find the highlighted > line. However, I'm lost after that....  Please could someone advise what to > do next? > > > Carole > > ________________________________ > From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > on behalf of taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > Sent: 26 March 2017 16:55 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > com; Derbyshire genealogy; [email protected] > Cc: taxwizzard > Subject: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? > > I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of > anyone who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. > > By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an > oath of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were > duly inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to > Parliament. > In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually > a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive > for about a third of English counties. > > These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available > online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have > where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, > particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. > > Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map > and then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All > free of charge. > > http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ > Home - Map Search - Parliamentary Archives<http://archivesmapsearch.labs. > parliament.uk/> > archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk > This is a prototype service which allows you to search for records from > the Parliament Archives online catalogue by place. There is currently one > set of records ... > > > > > Have fun > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is there anything on this 'archives maps search' website that's not available on the TNA website? See http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=protestation+returns+1642 Carole The National Archives | Search results:protestation returns 1642<http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=protestation+returns+1642> discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk The official archive of the UK government. Our vision is to lead and transform information management, guarantee the survival of today's information for tomorrow and bring history to life for everyone. ________________________________ From: Bob Butler <[email protected]> Sent: 26 March 2017 22:23 To: Derbyshire genealogy; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: carole williams Subject: RE: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? I agree - it is not very obvious what to do next - clicking on to the map view does not appear to make things easier! A few brief tips on how to proceed would be very welcome. Thanks in advance. Bob Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of carole williams via DERBYSGEN Sent: 26 March 2017 21:21 To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Cc: carole williams <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? I can get through to the Portcullis website ok, and find the highlighted line. However, I'm lost after that.... Please could someone advise what to do next? Carole ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 26 March 2017 16:55 To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Derbyshire genealogy; [email protected] Cc: taxwizzard Subject: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of anyone who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an oath of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were duly inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to Parliament. In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive for about a third of English counties. These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map and then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All free of charge. http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ Home - Map Search - Parliamentary Archives<http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/> archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk This is a prototype service which allows you to search for records from the Parliament Archives online catalogue by place. There is currently one set of records ... Have fun Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree - it is not very obvious what to do next - clicking on to the map view does not appear to make things easier! A few brief tips on how to proceed would be very welcome. Thanks in advance. Bob Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of carole williams via DERBYSGEN Sent: 26 March 2017 21:21 To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Cc: carole williams <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? I can get through to the Portcullis website ok, and find the highlighted line. However, I'm lost after that.... Please could someone advise what to do next? Carole ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 26 March 2017 16:55 To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Derbyshire genealogy; [email protected] Cc: taxwizzard Subject: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of anyone who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an oath of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were duly inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to Parliament. In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive for about a third of English counties. These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map and then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All free of charge. http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ Home - Map Search - Parliamentary Archives<http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/> archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk This is a prototype service which allows you to search for records from the Parliament Archives online catalogue by place. There is currently one set of records ... Have fun Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most of the material is still waiting to be uploaded, and I think they are having problems with the software. I emailed them said I was having a problem, and asked for the village I was interested, and they sent it to me. Margaret > On 26 Mar 2017, at 21:21, carole williams via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > I can get through to the Portcullis website ok, and find the highlighted line. However, I'm lost after that.... Please could someone advise what to do next? > > > Carole > > ________________________________ > From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > Sent: 26 March 2017 16:55 > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Derbyshire genealogy; [email protected] > Cc: taxwizzard > Subject: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? > > I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of anyone > who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. > > By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an oath > of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were duly > inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to Parliament. > In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually > a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive > for about a third of English counties. > > These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available > online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have > where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, > particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. > > Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map and > then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All > free of charge. > > http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ > Home - Map Search - Parliamentary Archives<http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/> > archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk > This is a prototype service which allows you to search for records from the Parliament Archives online catalogue by place. There is currently one set of records ... > > > > > Have fun > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can get through to the Portcullis website ok, and find the highlighted line. However, I'm lost after that.... Please could someone advise what to do next? Carole ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 26 March 2017 16:55 To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Derbyshire genealogy; [email protected] Cc: taxwizzard Subject: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of anyone who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an oath of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were duly inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to Parliament. In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive for about a third of English counties. These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map and then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All free of charge. http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ Home - Map Search - Parliamentary Archives<http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/> archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk This is a prototype service which allows you to search for records from the Parliament Archives online catalogue by place. There is currently one set of records ... Have fun Linda ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks. I might find my ancestors there instead...... > On 26 Mar 2017, at 17:48, Mike Morris via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Another good site is the Papist returns of 1767. This gave complete family, location and their occupation. Also how long they had lived in the area. > Returns of Roman Catholics > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Returns of Roman Catholics > Between 1680 and 1781, Parliament requested information about known or reputed Roman Catholics on a number of oc... | | > > | > > | > > > > Cheers Mike Morris Toronto Canada > > From: Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> > Cc: Margaret Siudek <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? > > I haven't looked for Derbyshire, but Nottinghamshire records exist, and no doubt will soon be added for free access online. They did send me the record for Stapleford, though sadly I didn't find the name I was looking for - at least I don't think so. It's really hard to read.... > > Margaret > >> On 26 Mar 2017, at 16:56, taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of anyone >> who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. >> >> By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an oath >> of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were duly >> inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to Parliament. >> In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually >> a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive >> for about a third of English counties. >> >> These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available >> online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have >> where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, >> particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. >> >> Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map and >> then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All >> free of charge. >> >> http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ >> >> Have fun >> >> Linda >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of anyone who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an oath of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were duly inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to Parliament. In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive for about a third of English counties. These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map and then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All free of charge. http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ Have fun Linda

Another good site is the Papist returns of 1767. This gave complete family, location and their occupation. Also how long they had lived in the area. Returns of Roman Catholics | | | | | | | | | | | Returns of Roman Catholics Between 1680 and 1781, Parliament requested information about known or reputed Roman Catholics on a number of oc... | | | | Cheers Mike Morris Toronto Canada From: Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Cc: Margaret Siudek <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [DBY] Protestation Returns - 17th Century Census? I haven't looked for Derbyshire, but Nottinghamshire records exist, and no doubt will soon be added for free access online. They did send me the record for Stapleford, though sadly I didn't find the name I was looking for - at least I don't think so. It's really hard to read.... Margaret > On 26 Mar 2017, at 16:56, taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of anyone > who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. > > By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an oath > of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were duly > inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to Parliament. > In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually > a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive > for about a third of English counties. > > These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available > online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have > where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, > particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. > > Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map and > then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All > free of charge. > > http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ > > Have fun > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I haven't looked for Derbyshire, but Nottinghamshire records exist, and no doubt will soon be added for free access online. They did send me the record for Stapleford, though sadly I didn't find the name I was looking for - at least I don't think so. It's really hard to read.... Margaret > On 26 Mar 2017, at 16:56, taxwizzard via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > I thought I would bring this new online resource to the attention of anyone > who doesn't subscribe to the FFHS newsletter. > > By order of the House of Commons, all adult men were asked to swear an oath > of allegiance to the Protestant religion in 1642. Their names were duly > inscribed in a list in each parish, and the list sent back to Parliament. > In a few areas such as Cornwall, people wrote their own names, but usually > a local official wrote out all the names. The Protestation Returns survive > for about a third of English counties. > > These records are now being digitised and some parishes are even available > online. I haven't checked a lot of parishes but from the ones that I have > where the Returns exist some are available to view online already, > particularly Lancs, Cumberland and Bucks. > > Get your spectacles on to decipher the writing! The search is via a map and > then just click though and open the book if it is available online. All > free of charge. > > http://archivesmapsearch.labs.parliament.uk/ > > Have fun > > Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sue Many thanks for that information. It seems to solve the issue of when and where John Higton and Ann Handby married, but, as always in family history, it raises another set of questions regarding Ann Mather. Option 1. Was she the first wife of the John Higton who subsequently married Ann Handby? There isn't a possible burial for her at Wirksworth (1822 - 1825), but she may be elsewhere, maybe Ashover? Option 2. Are the two marriages to different John Higton's? I only have one possibility for this, from the Wirksworth PRs. That is the John Higton born 15 Dec 1779 at Wirksworth, and who Ince describes as a Lace Manufacturer (or Maker) in Nottingham. If it is him, I'm surprised Ince doesn't name a wife. I also can't find him in the 1841 or 1851 census. Onwards! Nick ------ Original Message ------ From: "Sue Brown" <[email protected]> To: "Nick Higton" <[email protected]>; "Derbyshire genealogy" <[email protected]> Sent: 22/03/2017 08:26:57 Subject: Re: [DBY] John Higton married Ann Hanby/Mather >Hello Nick, > >The marriage to Ann Hanby took place at Ashover, 1825 May 18, John >Higton >of this parish and Ann Handby of this parish, by banns. >The marriage at Wirksworth on the 11th of November 1822 just has John >Higton of this parish and Ann Mather of this parish, banns, witnesses >Thomas Mather and Thomas Pickard. > >Hope that helps, > >Sue > > > >On 21 March 2017 at 22:53, Nick Higton via DERBYSGEN ><[email protected] >> wrote: > >> Could I please ask if some kind soul would lookup one, maybe two, >> marriages on the microfilms in the Derbyshire Record Office relating >>to >> John Higton, born 09 Jan 1784 at Wirksworth? >> >> I am reasonably confident that the maiden name of John's wife was >>Hanby or >> Handby, and that she was born in Lea DBY in about 1800. I have a >>possible >> marriage at Wirksworth on 11 Nov 1822, for John Higton to Ann Mather >>but, >> if this is the correct marriage, she must have been a widow. Could >>someone >> please check if the PR records her marital status and, if so , was >>she a >> widow or a spinster? >> >> If she was a spinster, then this marriage is not the correct one, so >>a >> marriage at Dethick was appear to be the most likely, and with a >>probable >> date range 1820 - 1826. Could sks please search for this too? >> >> This date range is because I have baptisms for two children on John >>and >> Ann: Mary Ellen born on 21 Sep 1823 at Wirksworth, and George >>baptised on >> 07 May 1826 at Dethick (Ince records George as their only child). >>These >> may, or may not, be children of the same parents, of course. >> >> Thanks, Nick >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

Thanks Nivard - very interesting. Andy.

Thanks!  Maybe they will find pictures of my rellies from Ashbourne who were prominent, yet I cannot find a photo or portrait anywhere! Jodie Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 4:19, Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN<[email protected]> wrote: Thanks, Nivard. very interesting.. On 23/03/2017 09:10, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: Thought this may be or interest Oldest photo studio' shows rediscovered images http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-39354321 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Nivard. very interesting.. On 23/03/2017 09:10, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: Thought this may be or interest Oldest photo studio' shows rediscovered images http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-39354321

Thought this may be or interest Oldest photo studio' shows rediscovered images http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-39354321 -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Terrific photos. Thanks Nivard. Noreen > On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:12 AM, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thought this may be or interest > > Oldest photo studio' shows rediscovered images > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-39354321 > > > > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just gone through the process by clicking on the US link. At a further stage it showed the price in £'s but there was an option to change from UK to US and the price changed back to dollars. I completed the process using (for convenience) PayPal and was advised that the exchange rate would be £1.00 GBP = $1.20495789 USD The order completed showing $24.95 + $5 tax = $29.95 = £24.86 at PayPal's exchange rate. I will see what actually appears on my CC but it is sure to be less than the £29.95 price on the Mackiev Europe page. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: Joan M [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 March 2017 14:54 To: 'Bob Butler' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [DBY] FTM update re Synch function That's the Uk option. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Butler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 22 March 2017 14:51 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Joan M Subject: RE: [DBY] FTM update re Synch function Is that through the UK option or the US? -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan M via DERBYSGEN Sent: 22 March 2017 13:54 To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' <[email protected]> Cc: Joan M <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM update re Synch function I've just been through the process, it's £24.95 then VAT of £5.00 gets added on. -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN Sent: 21 March 2017 16:46 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM update re Synch function I hadn't looked at the conversion until now If a user has purchased a MacKiev FTM and are signed up for their mailing list, they can get a free update For those existing users who have had a free upgrade from FTM2014 Its a pre-order price of $30 = £24.04 After release its $40 = £32.06 For new FTM MacKiev purchasers its $80 = £64.11 (conversion as of today 21st March 2017) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21-Mar-17 4:35 PM, John Frearson via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi Bob and Nivard, > > Someone's conning someone if it is parity - today the pound is > equivalent to about 1.25 dollars. so a purcahe in Dollars may well be > cheaper - if I've got it the right way round!!! > > Cheers > > John Frearson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks John That makes the cost £23.96 assuming that the CC company uses the same rate so it would be cheaper as long as the CC does not apply too high a surcharge. However would Mackiev let it go through or would they spot that I am UK based and force me to pay in £'s. Their site says that the product is the same but you select the country that corresponds to your Ancestry subscription on start up. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: John Frearson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 21 March 2017 16:35 To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Cc: Bob Butler <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM update re Synch function Hi Bob and Nivard, Someone's conning someone if it is parity - today the pound is equivalent to about 1.25 dollars. so a purcahe in Dollars may well be cheaper - if I've got it the right way round!!! Cheers John Frearson

For once we get a break.  For the past 20 plus years I was paying 1.50+ every time I crossed the pond. From: jackmrr100--- via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:09 AM Subject: [DBY] Pound to US Dollar conversion Here is the  conversion as of today: 1 GBP =1.24561USD >From http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=GBP&To=USD Jack Kansas City, MO ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is that through the UK option or the US? -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan M via DERBYSGEN Sent: 22 March 2017 13:54 To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' <[email protected]> Cc: Joan M <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM update re Synch function I've just been through the process, it's £24.95 then VAT of £5.00 gets added on. -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN Sent: 21 March 2017 16:46 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM update re Synch function I hadn't looked at the conversion until now If a user has purchased a MacKiev FTM and are signed up for their mailing list, they can get a free update For those existing users who have had a free upgrade from FTM2014 Its a pre-order price of $30 = £24.04 After release its $40 = £32.06 For new FTM MacKiev purchasers its $80 = £64.11 (conversion as of today 21st March 2017) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21-Mar-17 4:35 PM, John Frearson via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi Bob and Nivard, > > Someone's conning someone if it is parity - today the pound is > equivalent to about 1.25 dollars. so a purcahe in Dollars may well be > cheaper - if I've got it the right way round!!! > > Cheers > > John Frearson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message