Nivard, and all, although I first suspected some sort of phishing or hacking, I did some research and found that this isn't at all unusual. Very scary. Two articles I found interesting (but not helpful, as it seems there is no help): https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenextweb.com/facebook/2013/01/15/what-happened-when-facebook-disabled-my-account/%3famp=1 and http://www.optimizationtoday.com/social-media/what-i-learned-when-facebook-disabled-my-account/ Looks as if the only people who ever get this straightened out are high profile celebrities, such treatment isn't accorded us plebes. Carolyn Carolyn Hastings Madison AL, and sometimes Clinton Ma and Norfolk, VA On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Mike Morris via DERBYSGEN < [email protected]> wrote: > > Nick can you ask a friend who is a member of Facebook and you have their > email address to 'Friend' you?. See if it lets you join. > I tried it but there are many Nick Ovington's on Facebook. I could not > figure out which one was you. > Mike Morris Toronto Canada > > From: Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 3:25 AM > > > The reason for having my account disabled is a mystery (to me at least) > > All it says is :- > > Why was my account disabled? Your account was disabled for violating the > Facebook Terms. <snip> > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It took me a long time to finally take the plunge and use fb, I confess I wished I had never bothered Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26-Jul-17 9:00 PM, Andy Micklethwaite via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Thanks for the warning, Nivard. Sorry you're having problems. > Best Wishes, Andy. > > At 20:37 26/07/2017, you wrote: > >> Sorry its a long post but it may affect you so bear with me >> ...

Hi Wendy Just to be clear, the two proofs of ID I supplied were from a list of acceptable items supplied by facebook A CC with name visible but number blanked out and a membership card, in this case for a major well known National organisation, I also supplied a copy of the photo I use as a profile picture, me at age three ! I chose those as the lesser of the risky items requested, their first list is far to risky IMHO :- Birth certificate, Driver's licence, Passport, Marriage certificate, Official name change paperwork, Personal or vehicle insurance documents, Non-driver's government ID (e.g. benefits book, national ID card), Visa, residence permit or immigration papers, Tribal identification or status card, Voter registration document, Family certificate, Visa, Proof of age card, Immigration registration document, Tax identification document I don't think I would be entrusting any of those into the safekeeping of facebook, their second list is not that much better to be honest Way back when I set up a fb account I didn't have to prove anything but used my real name (unlike the many who don't) As you say, if there was another viable alternative I would use it I thought the situation worth mentioning as most people, like me, wouldn't expect summary execution before a trial, so forewarned is forearmed Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26-Jul-17 9:16 PM, Nionon via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Nivard: > Heavens. What an annoying mess. Two scans of a CC??? Huh. That sounds so bogus. Rule of thumb online is not giving CC info as a means of ID. I'd be objecting too. Honestly I wouldn't be supplying any of the other info you mentioned either. When I set up my account there was no necessity to give any personal info so I'm astounded they asked for so much to restore it. I'm assuming you are certain you're dealing with FB and not being intercepted by some sort of bogus hack. > > I have heard that people have set up more than one FB account so I'm wondering if there is a work around. You might wan't to try to find info on doing that. I have, unfortunately, nothing helpful to add in that regard since I've not looked at doing so. Only idly wondered how they managed it. > > FB is consistently annoying to me and I do limit severely the groups I have joined and the things I do/say on FB. I just don't like the idea that everything I post is available to FB should they choose. This sort of summary closure of an account, with no actual person to talk to, becomes another item on my list of objections. > > Trying to fix anything that involves trying to communicate with FB, as an entity, is torturous! If only there were a viable alternative to FB I'd be all over it, in a heartbeat! > > Good Luck! --WendyE

Hi Carolyn No, not informed by email in itself, I returned to find my account disabled, and when following the procedure for trying to regain control via facebook, did I receive an email, telling me the two forms of ID I had supplied didn't match the details on my account So if a hack I am a tad baffled as to its motive, as facebook have disabled the account any hacker wouldn't be able to use it anyway What I do not understand is their refusal to identify what the problem was, ie what was this violation I am accused of, they just ignore messages I was foolishly under the assumption that you were innocent until proven guilty, it seems facebook applies the kangaroo courts of old Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26-Jul-17 11:32 PM, Carolyn Hastings via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I agree with Mike -- if you were informed by email, and then followed links > provided by the notice in the email, it was probably definitely a hack. > > Carolyn Hastings > Madison AL, and sometimes Clinton Ma and Norfolk, VA

Thanks again Mike but have followed all that to submit the proof of identity Apparently its not good enough for them Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26-Jul-17 9:29 PM, Mike Morris via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Sorry Nivard, > > For some reason I cannot copy the web site address in mail to Rootsweb. Please do the following in a Google search. > > Type 'How do I get back into my Facebook account' > > Hopefully, this will help you access your account. IO thick you might have been 'Hacked' > > Mike > > Toronto Canada

Thanks for yours Mike The reason for having my account disabled is a mystery (to me at least) All it says is :- Why was my account disabled? Your account was disabled for violating the Facebook Terms. Our Policies Your account must list your authentic name. Personal accounts must represent individual people only. It's a violation of our policies to use a personal profile to represent anything other than yourself (ex: celebrities, pets, ideas, objects, etc.). Impersonating anyone or anything is not allowed. Maintaining multiple accounts is a violation of our policies. Accounts created for the purpose of spamming or harassing others are strictly prohibited. All of which I comply with The part I simply don't understand is why there was no warning and why they refuse to tell me what the problem was I have followed the links from that you posted but apparently its not good enough You would think two proofs of identity and a photograph would be enough but not according to facebook There does not appear to be any facility for talking to anyone, by email, phone or ironically facebook Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26-Jul-17 9:04 PM, Mike Morris via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Nivard, is there any chance it was not Facebook but some other spiteful party? . Is it possible for someone to lock you out? > Maybe the following site might help you. How can I get back into my account? | Facebook Help Center | Facebook > > |

Thanks for the warning, Nivard. Sorry you're having problems. Best Wishes, Andy. At 20:37 26/07/2017, you wrote: >Sorry its a long post but it may affect you so bear with me >...

Sorry its a long post but it may affect you so bear with me The lists in general are quiet with few exceptions, this list also suffers from lack of posts, there are various reasons why this is happening, one being the plethora of other avenues to communicate One major avenue is facebook Rather than sit twiddling my thumbs, and on the premise that if you can't beat 'em join 'em, I joined facebook a fair time ago I joined various groups and have hopefully helped a fair few along the way Last Friday I returned to my computer to find my facebook account had been disabled, no warning of any kind The message says "Your account was disabled for violating the Facebook Terms." it gives a list of things which violate their terms, mainly it refers to having to use your real name I have no idea specifically what they are talking about and despite several attempts they will not tell me, I use my real name and details so have not a clue what they refer to I have followed the links to try and regain my account, part of which is supplying scans of things such as a birth certificate, marriage certificate, passport etc OR giving two scans of such as a credit card or membership etc Given I wouldn't trust facebook with a birth cert I elected to use the second option, no not good enough according to facebook I sent a copy of the photo of me that I use as a profile photo, still not good enough So I am still excommunicated from facebook nearly a week later I have no idea what I may have done to deserve this, nor do I know if I will ever regain access So I am just highlighting what could be a problem for you if they should disable your account without warning Facebook is the only way I have (had) contact with some family members and friends So if you rely on facebook for your contact and communication you may want to think about the repercussions for your situation -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Sorry Nivard, For some reason I cannot copy the web site address in mail to Rootsweb. Please do the following in a Google search. Type 'How do I get back into my Facebook account' Hopefully, this will help you access your account. IO thick you might have been 'Hacked' Mike Toronto Canada Nivard, is there any chance it was not Facebook but some other spiteful party? . Is it possible for someone to lock you out? Maybe the following site might help you. How can I get back into my account? | Facebook Help Center | Facebook How can I get back into my account? | Facebook Help Center | Facebook To get back into your account, log into Facebook and follow the instructions to verify your identity and, if nec... Regards, Mike Morris Toronto Canada ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 3:53 PM Subject: [DBY] Just highlighting a problem which may affect you Sorry its a long post but it may affect you so bear with me The lists in general are quiet with few exceptions, this list also suffers from lack of posts, there are various reasons why this is happening, one being the plethora of other avenues to communicate One major avenue is facebook <snip>

Nivard, is there any chance it was not Facebook but some other spiteful party? . Is it possible for someone to lock you out? Maybe the following site might help you.    How can I get back into my account? | Facebook Help Center | Facebook | | | How can I get back into my account? | Facebook Help Center | Facebook To get back into your account, log into Facebook and follow the instructions to verify your identity and, if nec... | | | Regards, Mike MorrisToronto Canada From: Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 3:53 PM Subject: [DBY] Just highlighting a problem which may affect you Sorry its a long post but it may affect you so bear with me The lists in general are quiet with few exceptions, this list also suffers from lack of posts, there are various reasons why this is happening, one being the plethora of other avenues to communicate One major avenue is facebook <snip>

I agree with Mike -- if you were informed by email, and then followed links provided by the notice in the email, it was probably definitely a hack. Carolyn Hastings Madison AL, and sometimes Clinton Ma and Norfolk, VA On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Mike Morris via DERBYSGEN < [email protected]> wrote: > Sorry Nivard, > > For some reason I cannot copy the web site address in mail to Rootsweb. > Please do the following in a Google search. > > Type 'How do I get back into my Facebook account' > > Hopefully, this will help you access your account. IO thick you might have > been 'Hacked' > > Mike > > Toronto Canada > > > > Nivard, > > is there any chance it was not Facebook but some other spiteful party? . > Is it possible for someone to lock you out? > > > Maybe the following site might help you. How can I get back into my > account? | Facebook Help Center | Facebook > > > How can I get back into my account? | Facebook Help Center | Facebook > > To get back into your account, log into Facebook and follow the > instructions to verify your identity and, if nec... > > > > Regards, > > Mike Morris > > Toronto Canada > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Cc: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 3:53 PM > > Subject: [DBY] Just highlighting a problem which may affect you > > > > > > Sorry its a long post but it may affect you so bear with me > > > > The lists in general are quiet with few exceptions, this list also > > > suffers from lack of posts, there are various reasons why this is > > > happening, one being the plethora of other avenues to communicate > > > > One major avenue is facebook > > > <snip> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nivard: Heavens. What an annoying mess. Two scans of a CC??? Huh. That sounds so bogus. Rule of thumb online is not giving CC info as a means of ID. I'd be objecting too. Honestly I wouldn't be supplying any of the other info you mentioned either. When I set up my account there was no necessity to give any personal info so I'm astounded they asked for so much to restore it. I'm assuming you are certain you're dealing with FB and not being intercepted by some sort of bogus hack. I have heard that people have set up more than one FB account so I'm wondering if there is a work around. You might wan't to try to find info on doing that. I have, unfortunately, nothing helpful to add in that regard since I've not looked at doing so. Only idly wondered how they managed it. FB is consistently annoying to me and I do limit severely the groups I have joined and the things I do/say on FB. I just don't like the idea that everything I post is available to FB should they choose. This sort of summary closure of an account, with no actual person to talk to, becomes another item on my list of objections. Trying to fix anything that involves trying to communicate with FB, as an entity, is torturous! If only there were a viable alternative to FB I'd be all over it, in a heartbeat! Good Luck! --WendyE Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 26, 2017, at 1:37 PM, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sorry its a long post but it may affect you so bear with me > > The lists in general are quiet with few exceptions, this list also suffers from lack of posts, there are various reasons why this is happening, one being the plethora of other avenues to communicate > > One major avenue is facebook > > Rather than sit twiddling my thumbs, and on the premise that if you can't beat 'em join 'em, I joined facebook a fair time ago > > I joined various groups and have hopefully helped a fair few along the way > > Last Friday I returned to my computer to find my facebook account had been disabled, no warning of any kind > > The message says "Your account was disabled for violating the Facebook Terms." it gives a list of things which violate their terms, mainly it refers to having to use your real name > > I have no idea specifically what they are talking about and despite several attempts they will not tell me, I use my real name and details so have not a clue what they refer to > > I have followed the links to try and regain my account, part of which is supplying scans of things such as a birth certificate, marriage certificate, passport etc > > OR giving two scans of such as a credit card or membership etc > > Given I wouldn't trust facebook with a birth cert I elected to use the second option, no not good enough according to facebook > > I sent a copy of the photo of me that I use as a profile photo, still not good enough > > So I am still excommunicated from facebook nearly a week later > > I have no idea what I may have done to deserve this, nor do I know if I will ever regain access > > So I am just highlighting what could be a problem for you if they should disable your account without warning > > Facebook is the only way I have (had) contact with some family members and friends > > So if you rely on facebook for your contact and communication you may want to think about the repercussions for your situation > > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that. I am always doing that! Jane in Redcar Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Joan M via DERBYSGEN Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:53 AM To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' Cc: Joan M Subject: [DBY] Windows Edge tip When I have several family tree programs open I am always accidently closing down a tab instead of going to it. If you hit control/shift/t the closed tab reopens back in the same place. Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I have several family tree programs open I am always accidently closing down a tab instead of going to it. If you hit control/shift/t the closed tab reopens back in the same place. Joan

Hi Lin Sadly its something I can't change There are some glitches at present in the system Your problem has been reported by others but no cure has been forthcoming so far It appears to be the way some ISPs are handling mail which is making it difficult to distribute for Rootsweb Hopefully it will be rectified in due course You should also find the posts in the archives if thats easier I am also sending this direct as it appears some of my own posts aren't getting through (just to make life more complicated) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 22-Jul-17 7:21 PM, Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi, Just recently I am having to open incoming emails by clicking on a link > rather than simply showing them as it usually does, and when I do open one > it opens in Outlook which I have never used. Any advice would be > gratefully received. > > Regards, Lin

Hi folks Those who receive in digest form, when replying could you please edit the subject line to the relevant subject line for the post you are replying to If you check the archives you will see why, three posts are unattached to any previous post, so anyone checking the archives wouldn't have a clue these three were part of a thread So for example, delete the DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 12, Issue 168 And replace with the subject as relevant such as WDYTYA Clare BALDING (in two cases) Thank you Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 21-Jul-17 2:41 PM, Marie ball via DERBYSGEN wrote: > > >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. WDYTYA Clare BALDING (Nivard Ovington) >> >>

Hi, Just recently I am having to open incoming emails by clicking on a link rather than simply showing them as it usually does, and when I do open one it opens in Outlook which I have never used. Any advice would be gratefully received. Regards, Lin

Was far more interesting than I thought it would be. She has gone up in my estimation. She presented herself very well. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Marie ball via DERBYSGEN Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 2:52 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Marie ball Subject: Re: [DBY] DERBYSGEN Digest, Vol 12, Issue 168 > Today's Topics: > > 1. WDYTYA Clare BALDING (Nivard Ovington) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:38:36 +0100 > From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] WDYTYA Clare BALDING > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > The latest episode in this series is on Clare BALDING > > > I hope its better than it sounds > > > Clare Balding is the latest celebrity to go in search of her roots, and > she is particularly interested in her maternal great-grandfather. Clare > believes he could have been gay, but getting to the truth of the matter > proves a challenge when all the evidence comes from a time when > homosexuality was illegal. Digging into her father's side of the family > takes the sports presenter to New Jersey and New York where she uncovers > an extraordinary dynasty and American roots stretching back generations > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > ------------------------------ > I enjoyed it, especially her disbelief that anyone could make money from baking powder, Marie > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Today's Topics: > > 1. WDYTYA Clare BALDING (Nivard Ovington) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2017 19:38:36 +0100 > From: Nivard Ovington <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [DBY] WDYTYA Clare BALDING > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed > > The latest episode in this series is on Clare BALDING > > > I hope its better than it sounds > > > Clare Balding is the latest celebrity to go in search of her roots, and > she is particularly interested in her maternal great-grandfather. Clare > believes he could have been gay, but getting to the truth of the matter > proves a challenge when all the evidence comes from a time when > homosexuality was illegal. Digging into her father's side of the family > takes the sports presenter to New Jersey and New York where she uncovers > an extraordinary dynasty and American roots stretching back generations > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > > ------------------------------ > I enjoyed it, especially her disbelief that anyone could make money from baking powder, Marie >

The latest episode in this series is on Clare BALDING I hope its better than it sounds Clare Balding is the latest celebrity to go in search of her roots, and she is particularly interested in her maternal great-grandfather. Clare believes he could have been gay, but getting to the truth of the matter proves a challenge when all the evidence comes from a time when homosexuality was illegal. Digging into her father's side of the family takes the sports presenter to New Jersey and New York where she uncovers an extraordinary dynasty and American roots stretching back generations Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)