Not really relevant at this moment but 1958-1969ish went to school at Greenhill County School with a girl with the surname FIDLER. At this moment I cannot remember her surname. (Getting old!!!!!) Jane in Redcar Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Liz via DERBYSGEN Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 5:57 PM To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' Cc: Liz Subject: Re: [DBY] Fidler Hi Marjorie My Benjamin FIDLER would probably have been born Norton which in those days was Derbyshire as it says he was born "in county". He was the husband of my 2x6 cousin who was Hannah REANEY Rather some distance from your FIDLERS, over 30 miles across the moors. He died in Ecclesall 05 Mar 1842. He was a mason. On the 1841 census it says he was 65 and Hannah 60. Age at death in 1842 was recorded as 67. Liz -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN Sent: 01 August 2017 09:17 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Marjorie Ward Subject: Re: [DBY] Fidler Hi Liz I can`t at the moment link my FIDLERs to Benjamin. My grandmother Sarah EDWARDS nee FIDLER, who died when my mother was less than two, was the daughter of Henry and Ann nee FORD. Henry was from the Fernilee area - which surprisingly used to come under Hope parish although many ceremonies for the family took place at Taxal Church which is nearby. I have the family back another three generations in Fernilee but I think they came into the area in the early 18th century. The earliest couple I have are Samuel and Lydia nee WHARMBY and, if I have followed the line correctly, their eldest son Lawrence was baptised at Stockport church in 1725 but died in 1733 and was buried at Taxal. best wishes Marjorie Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marjorie My Benjamin FIDLER would probably have been born Norton which in those days was Derbyshire as it says he was born "in county". He was the husband of my 2x6 cousin who was Hannah REANEY Rather some distance from your FIDLERS, over 30 miles across the moors. He died in Ecclesall 05 Mar 1842. He was a mason. On the 1841 census it says he was 65 and Hannah 60. Age at death in 1842 was recorded as 67. Liz -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN Sent: 01 August 2017 09:17 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Marjorie Ward Subject: Re: [DBY] Fidler Hi Liz I can`t at the moment link my FIDLERs to Benjamin. My grandmother Sarah EDWARDS nee FIDLER, who died when my mother was less than two, was the daughter of Henry and Ann nee FORD. Henry was from the Fernilee area - which surprisingly used to come under Hope parish although many ceremonies for the family took place at Taxal Church which is nearby. I have the family back another three generations in Fernilee but I think they came into the area in the early 18th century. The earliest couple I have are Samuel and Lydia nee WHARMBY and, if I have followed the line correctly, their eldest son Lawrence was baptised at Stockport church in 1725 but died in 1733 and was buried at Taxal. best wishes Marjorie Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com

Hi Liz I can`t at the moment link my FIDLERs to Benjamin. My grandmother Sarah EDWARDS nee FIDLER, who died when my mother was less than two, was the daughter of Henry and Ann nee FORD. Henry was from the Fernilee area - which surprisingly used to come under Hope parish although many ceremonies for the family took place at Taxal Church which is nearby. I have the family back another three generations in Fernilee but I think they came into the area in the early 18th century. The earliest couple I have are Samuel and Lydia nee WHARMBY and, if I have followed the line correctly, their eldest son Lawrence was baptised at Stockport church in 1725 but died in 1733 and was buried at Taxal. best wishes Marjorie Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk

Yes, burials have been happening at Bretby churchyard since the Reformation in 16th century Europe. Although it was a Chapel of Ease at that time, the churchyard could be used for burials. Also, the Bretby Crematorium (which comes up in searches) did not exist in 1870. You may need to look at burial entries in Repton's parish register, since she was the mother church.       Lou      Good hunting ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 19:59:58 +0000 From: Tony Garton <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: [DBY] STRAW Message-ID:     <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed My g grandfather James Frederick STRAW died at Bretby on 11 April 1879.  I have his death certificate but I have not found where he was buried.  As far as I know there was no churchyard at Bretby then.  I would have expected him to be buried at Repton, but I can't find him there either.  Nor can I find him in the NBI. Ancestry and Find my Past don't seem to have him either.  Does anyone have any suggestions? Tony

Thanks Nivard , Liz and Margaret for all the information. Hazel Green

Sorry, it was an announcement about listing 3 - 5 friends if your access is cut off. I couldn't copy the post, and mistakenly pressed send. iPaditis! Sent from my iPad > On 31 Jul 2017, at 17:23, Alison merricks via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just seen this on facebook > > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 27 Jul 2017, at 22:47, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks for those two links Carolyn >> >> Eye opening reading those, it seems there are very many in the same situation and who never regain their accounts >> >> Its not so much facebook as big brother >> >> I guess this is a bigger warning to all than I originally envisaged >> >> For a long time I was reluctant to use facebook, it appears my fears are proving all to real >> >> I cannot understand how an organisation such as facebook can be allowed to continue without some sort of governance >> >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> >>> On 27-Jul-17 2:02 PM, Carolyn Hastings via DERBYSGEN wrote: >>> Nivard, and all, although I first suspected some sort of phishing or >>> hacking, I did some research and found that this isn't at all unusual. >>> Very scary. >>> Two articles I found interesting (but not helpful, as it seems there is no >>> help): >>> https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenextweb.com/facebook/2013/01/15/what-happened-when-facebook-disabled-my-account/%3famp=1 >>> and >>> http://www.optimizationtoday.com/social-media/what-i-learned-when-facebook-disabled-my-account/ >>> Looks as if the only people who ever get this straightened out are high >>> profile celebrities, such treatment isn't accorded us plebes. >>> Carolyn >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just seen this on facebook Sent from my iPad > On 27 Jul 2017, at 22:47, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for those two links Carolyn > > Eye opening reading those, it seems there are very many in the same situation and who never regain their accounts > > Its not so much facebook as big brother > > I guess this is a bigger warning to all than I originally envisaged > > For a long time I was reluctant to use facebook, it appears my fears are proving all to real > > I cannot understand how an organisation such as facebook can be allowed to continue without some sort of governance > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 27-Jul-17 2:02 PM, Carolyn Hastings via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Nivard, and all, although I first suspected some sort of phishing or >> hacking, I did some research and found that this isn't at all unusual. >> Very scary. >> Two articles I found interesting (but not helpful, as it seems there is no >> help): >> https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenextweb.com/facebook/2013/01/15/what-happened-when-facebook-disabled-my-account/%3famp=1 >> and >> http://www.optimizationtoday.com/social-media/what-i-learned-when-facebook-disabled-my-account/ >> Looks as if the only people who ever get this straightened out are high >> profile celebrities, such treatment isn't accorded us plebes. >> Carolyn > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. My Mum was baptised at home, (she used to laugh about it, apparently they used my grandmothers best glass bowl). She had convultions and wasn’t expected to live. I have her certificate of baptism but when I went through the church records she wasn’t there so I think the vicar forgot to enter it. From: Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: 30 July 2017 15:17 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Nivard Ovington<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] Private baptisms Hi Joan Usually it implies the baby was sickly and not expected to live Anyone can baptise a child, more often it was later received into the church and recorded then A second reason sometimes given is a show of wealth by the rich Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30-Jul-17 2:58 PM, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi, > > > > If there is a private baptism does it imply anything or is it something that > was only occasionally noted on the baptism record as additional information > so doesn't have any significance. > > > > Thanks > > > > Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marjorie I've been doing that for years now. I agree it is very worthwhile but what frustrates me is people who just put info like, "that's my great grandfather"...so, who is the person who put the message on and how can you contact them. It is vital that you put your email address otherwise it's a waste of time. While talking, I have several FIDLERs starting with Benjamin FIDLER who married Hannah REANEY in Sheffield on 05 Aug 1799. Liz -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN Sent: 31 July 2017 11:01 To: [email protected] Cc: Marjorie Ward Subject: [DBY] Adding info on Free BMD Good Morning I received an interesting email yesterday from someone who had seen my email address posted on Free BMD against the marriage certificate of my Grandmother Sarah EDWARDS nee FIDLER. It really is worth adding a Post It note on the website if you are interested in folk being able to contact you. Just click on the red Info sign and add a comment. best wishes Marjorie WardDerbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com

Good Morning I received an interesting email yesterday from someone who had seen my email address posted on Free BMD against the marriage certificate of my Grandmother Sarah EDWARDS nee FIDLER. It really is worth adding a Post It note on the website if you are interested in folk being able to contact you. Just click on the red Info sign and add a comment. best wishes Marjorie WardDerbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk

Thanks Nivard, I suspect it was the sickly baby reason as certainly none of my ancestors were wealthy!! -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN Sent: 30 July 2017 15:16 To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] Private baptisms Hi Joan Usually it implies the baby was sickly and not expected to live Anyone can baptise a child, more often it was later received into the church and recorded then A second reason sometimes given is a show of wealth by the rich Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30-Jul-17 2:58 PM, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi, > > > > If there is a private baptism does it imply anything or is it > something that was only occasionally noted on the baptism record as > additional information so doesn't have any significance. > > > > Thanks > > > > Joan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joan Usually it implies the baby was sickly and not expected to live Anyone can baptise a child, more often it was later received into the church and recorded then A second reason sometimes given is a show of wealth by the rich Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30-Jul-17 2:58 PM, Joan M via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi, > > > > If there is a private baptism does it imply anything or is it something that > was only occasionally noted on the baptism record as additional information > so doesn't have any significance. > > > > Thanks > > > > Joan

Hi, If there is a private baptism does it imply anything or is it something that was only occasionally noted on the baptism record as additional information so doesn't have any significance. Thanks Joan

Hi Margaret They definitely wouldn't travel by coach, that would have been extremely expensive and beyond the means of an Ag Lab. He could well have taken a few months to travel that far. As an Ag Lab he could well have stopped and helped with harvesting. There would have been a lot of work in Lincolnshire for an Ag Lab at certain times of year. Liz -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Margaret Siudek via DERBYSGEN Sent: 29 July 2017 16:12 To: [email protected] Cc: Margaret Siudek Subject: Re: [DBY] Moving home in 1870s Yes, water travel must have been important. One of my ancestors travelled from a village on the coast of Fife, with a wife and 2 children, and is next recorded at the birth of a third child the next year, in Nottinghamshire, on the border with Lincs. I've always assumed he travelled largely by boat across the Firth, down the coast and then along the Trent - where the money came from is another matter... He was a plough-boy in Scotland, and an Ag lab in England. When you see films about this period, you often see people getting a lift in the back of carts- and I've often wondered if this is what really happened for some journeys, or parts of journeys, or is it just fiction. After all there must have been a lot of transport of goods to market and so on. Presumably some money would change hands ... but it would be much cheaper than the coaches. Margaret On 29/07/2017 15:34, Liz via DERBYSGEN wrote: Tisbury is a village in Wiltshire and there probably wasn't enough work to support the "Master" tailor plus another tailor once his apprenticeship was completed. The main employment in the area at the time was a glove factory and a brewery. Don't forget the Canals in the 1800s were like our motorways today. Others might find the waterways map quite useful when trying to work out how their ancestors moved around the country. https://www.waterways.org.uk/pdf/wwwaterwaysmap Liz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message - ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com

Tisbury is a village in Wiltshire and there probably wasn't enough work to support the "Master" tailor plus another tailor once his apprenticeship was completed. The main employment in the area at the time was a glove factory and a brewery. Don't forget the Canals in the 1800s were like our motorways today. Others might find the waterways map quite useful when trying to work out how their ancestors moved around the country. https://www.waterways.org.uk/pdf/wwwaterwaysmap Liz -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hazel green via DERBYSGEN Sent: 29 July 2017 14:16 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: hazel green Subject: Re: [DBY] Moving home in 1870s My relatives moved to Nottingham from Tisbury. He was a Tailor journeyman. What is the travel mode for journeymen? How and why would they end up in Nottingham? Hazel Green [email protected] <[email protected]> The Guild of Machine Knitters Ltd is registered in England with Company No. 5794316 Registered Office: 33 Lady Frances Drive, Market Rasen, Lincolnshire LN8 3JJ DISCLAIMER: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail you are not authorised to copy or disclose all or any part of it without the prior written consent of the Guild of Machine Knitters. Opinions expressed in this e-mail and any attachment(s) are those of the sender, not necessarily the opinions of The Guild of Machine Knitters. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this e-mail and its attachment(s) are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this e-mail is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this e-mail to your computer. On 28 July 2017 at 15:26, Mark Allen via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > There is no documentary proof of how any of my ancestors moved - they > simply > stop being in one place and show up in another. However one family was said > in family lore to have walked when they moved to Ashford (near Bakewell) > from Stoke around 1833. This always sounded feasible, its not a massive > distance, and any few belongings they had could have been delivered somehow > I'm sure (the husband was a framework knitter after arriving, and may, I > later found, have been in the Royal Marines beforehand, so they likely > wouldn't have much at all). However when I came to look at this family it > turned out they were not from Stoke (on Trent) at all, but Alverstoke near > Portsmouth, which puts a whole different complexion on the journey - it > would surely have been at least a week's walk. > > Cheers > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected] > com] > On Behalf Of Liz via DERBYSGEN > Sent: 28 July 2017 15:05 > To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' > Cc: Liz > Subject: [DBY] Moving home in 1870s > > Where has summer gone?? Being bored this afternoon I was reading through > "Holymoorside past & present" which is where some of my ancestors lived and > worked. I came across an interesting article about a family who had moved > from Cornwall to Derbyshire in 1870. I feel this may apply to others who > have families who lived a long way from Derbyshire and probably in other > coastal areas. > > In 1870 three families from Cornwall - Cook, Gill and Moyle - arrived in > the > village from Gwennap, Cusgarne and Green Bottom in Mid-Cornwall. Rail > travel > was too costly and the Cook family said they sailed from Cornwall to > Holyhead and were then conveyed by horse wagon to Holymoorside. Other > families made the move from Cornwall to Calow as Derbyshire was considered > a > "promised land" where there was ample opportunity for the women to work in > the Mills and men in the coal mines as the tin miners could adapt their > skills. > > Liz > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Liz Very useful Bob Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liz via DERBYSGEN Sent: 29 July 2017 15:35 To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' <[email protected]> Cc: Liz <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] Moving home in 1870s Tisbury is a village in Wiltshire and there probably wasn't enough work to support the "Master" tailor plus another tailor once his apprenticeship was completed. The main employment in the area at the time was a glove factory and a brewery. Don't forget the Canals in the 1800s were like our motorways today. Others might find the waterways map quite useful when trying to work out how their ancestors moved around the country. https://www.waterways.org.uk/pdf/wwwaterwaysmap Liz

Yes, water travel must have been important. One of my ancestors travelled from a village on the coast of Fife, with a wife and 2 children, and is next recorded at the birth of a third child the next year, in Nottinghamshire, on the border with Lincs. I've always assumed he travelled largely by boat across the Firth, down the coast and then along the Trent - where the money came from is another matter... He was a plough-boy in Scotland, and an Ag lab in England. When you see films about this period, you often see people getting a lift in the back of carts- and I've often wondered if this is what really happened for some journeys, or parts of journeys, or is it just fiction. After all there must have been a lot of transport of goods to market and so on. Presumably some money would change hands ... but it would be much cheaper than the coaches. Margaret On 29/07/2017 15:34, Liz via DERBYSGEN wrote: Tisbury is a village in Wiltshire and there probably wasn't enough work to support the "Master" tailor plus another tailor once his apprenticeship was completed. The main employment in the area at the time was a glove factory and a brewery. Don't forget the Canals in the 1800s were like our motorways today. Others might find the waterways map quite useful when trying to work out how their ancestors moved around the country. https://www.waterways.org.uk/pdf/wwwaterwaysmap Liz ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -

Hi Hazel Forgive me if I tell you something you already know, but a journeyman has nothing to do with travel Its the mans status after serving his time as an apprentice and before setting up as a Master himself on his own account, a journeyman worked for someone else It comes from the French and means paid by the day So the travel mode would be the same as any other, although he is likely to have a little more than the average Ag Lab Shanks pony, Cart, railway, boat/ship etc The reason most people moved was for work (or due to the lack of it) a journeyman would often be looking for somewhere to set up on his own account at some point, as an apprentice, once he served his time he would have to find his own patch rather than in the Masters patch Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29-Jul-17 2:15 PM, hazel green via DERBYSGEN wrote: > My relatives moved to Nottingham from Tisbury. He was a Tailor journeyman. > > What is the travel mode for journeymen? > How and why would they end up in Nottingham? > > Hazel Green

My relatives moved to Nottingham from Tisbury. He was a Tailor journeyman. What is the travel mode for journeymen? How and why would they end up in Nottingham? Hazel Green [email protected] <[email protected]> The Guild of Machine Knitters Ltd is registered in England with Company No. 5794316 Registered Office: 33 Lady Frances Drive, Market Rasen, Lincolnshire LN8 3JJ DISCLAIMER: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail you are not authorised to copy or disclose all or any part of it without the prior written consent of the Guild of Machine Knitters. Opinions expressed in this e-mail and any attachment(s) are those of the sender, not necessarily the opinions of The Guild of Machine Knitters. VIRUS: Every care has been taken to ensure this e-mail and its attachment(s) are virus free, however, any loss or damage incurred in using this e-mail is not the sender's responsibility. It is your responsibility to ensure virus checks are completed before installing any data sent in this e-mail to your computer. On 28 July 2017 at 15:26, Mark Allen via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > There is no documentary proof of how any of my ancestors moved - they > simply > stop being in one place and show up in another. However one family was said > in family lore to have walked when they moved to Ashford (near Bakewell) > from Stoke around 1833. This always sounded feasible, its not a massive > distance, and any few belongings they had could have been delivered somehow > I'm sure (the husband was a framework knitter after arriving, and may, I > later found, have been in the Royal Marines beforehand, so they likely > wouldn't have much at all). However when I came to look at this family it > turned out they were not from Stoke (on Trent) at all, but Alverstoke near > Portsmouth, which puts a whole different complexion on the journey - it > would surely have been at least a week's walk. > > Cheers > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected] > com] > On Behalf Of Liz via DERBYSGEN > Sent: 28 July 2017 15:05 > To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' > Cc: Liz > Subject: [DBY] Moving home in 1870s > > Where has summer gone?? Being bored this afternoon I was reading through > "Holymoorside past & present" which is where some of my ancestors lived and > worked. I came across an interesting article about a family who had moved > from Cornwall to Derbyshire in 1870. I feel this may apply to others who > have families who lived a long way from Derbyshire and probably in other > coastal areas. > > In 1870 three families from Cornwall - Cook, Gill and Moyle - arrived in > the > village from Gwennap, Cusgarne and Green Bottom in Mid-Cornwall. Rail > travel > was too costly and the Cook family said they sailed from Cornwall to > Holyhead and were then conveyed by horse wagon to Holymoorside. Other > families made the move from Cornwall to Calow as Derbyshire was considered > a > "promised land" where there was ample opportunity for the women to work in > the Mills and men in the coal mines as the tin miners could adapt their > skills. > > Liz > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Interesting Bob. Ag Labs would usually have been provided with a basic "Tied" cottage which would have gone with the job. If the job came to an end then they would have had to move on. Furniture in those days was very basic for Ag Labs, perhaps a palliasse (straw mattress) for the parents. Children...and there were often upwards of 8 children...would have slept top-to-toe. A kitchen table and perhaps a bench for the children and a couple of dining chairs. The father usually had the best chair in the house but it wouldn't be anything like what we have now. They would usually bring with them their own pots and pans and kettle which would be put on the open fire. One of the families arriving at Holymoorside were very lucky as a fire had been lit and coal provided but they were not Ag Labs and as it was a coal mining area being able to access coal would have been easy to obtain. Other families would probably have gathered together to help the new family settle in. In 1977 I purchased a very tiny cottage - 2 up, 2 down with a Belfast sink and cold tap and a loo at the end of the yard (any Americans reading "yard" this is not a garden but a concrete area of about 30 feet x 10 feet). In the 1950s we knew a family with 10 children lived in the cottage with parents and grandma. How did they manage? As you walked in off the street, direct into the living room, there had been a bench the length of the living room (10 foot 6 inches). Of the 10 children, most of the older boys had been fishermen and the older girls were in service so the boys would only return when the boats were in harbour and the girls would have been given a few hours off on a Sunday afternoon and their jobs would have been "live-in". Gran slept in a chair beside the fire. The second bedroom was only 8'6" x 5'6" so we built bunk beds into the room. The cottage had been there from the 1700s at least and had been owned by a Cornish Bank. Liz -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of BobJ via DERBYSGEN Sent: 29 July 2017 12:36 To: [email protected] Cc: BobJ Subject: Re: [DBY] Moving house in th 1870s In the 1850s my ag lab ancestors move from Oxfordshire to West Yorkshire. Would they get digs with a local family, or would the new employer have a furnished cottage available for them? Bob. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com