It definitely sounds like you have someone else trying to get information out of you please do not supply them with any information you do not need any of that for Facebook. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 8:29:49 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] Just highlighting a problem which may affect you Hi all I thought I would just update you on my problem re facebook Having followed all their requests for proof of ID and photo and still they say it doesn't match my details on my original account, then they simply didn't reply to any further input, so I gave up on that account I created a new one yesterday, joined one group, friended wife and a few nieces Less than 24 hours later that one is locked out as well It was not possible to use the 3 to 5 friends to confirm your account as I didn't get the chance before being blocked I have uploaded a copy of a photo as they requested, the wording was rather worrying to my way of thinking "Please upload a photo of yourself that clearly shows your face" The question I would ask, is how are they going to check that photo as I did not upload any to this new account If you use facebook, you may want to take a few precautions, lest it should happen to you There is a facility to download your own facebook data, I am unsure what format that is as I didn't get time to do it I would suggest making a copy of your friends list and a list of the groups you are currently in If like me you have your account disabled, you cannot then access it to take copies after it happens, so forewarned is forearmed Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26-Jul-17 8:37 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote: > > Sorry its a long post but it may affect you so bear with me > > The lists in general are quiet with few exceptions, this list also > suffers from lack of posts, there are various reasons why this is > happening, one being the plethora of other avenues to communicate ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Nivard: How unbelievably frustrating for you! I'm supposing the photo request is because we live in a world of selfies/photos. FB is heavily used for sharing them. The photo request is likely because they have some computerized way of sorting and comparing a photo to any photo's they suppose one might have in a FB photo album. I do find that less egregious than asking for the items on the annoying list you mentioned, but still predicated on how FB perceives FB is being used. Can any of your FB friends/family (assuming they know how to contact you via email and vice versa) retrieve any of your FB uinfo? Such as take screen shots of your account for you. Could they file complaints, or make supportive statements to FB on your behalf? Again, good luck! --WendyE Sent from my iPad > On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:31 PM, Theresa Goss via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please upload a photo of yourself that clearly shows your face" > > The question I would ask, is how are they going to check that photo as I > did not upload any to this new account

Thanks have recovered my log in Chris On 07/08/2017 17:30, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi Chris > > Are you saying you cannot remember your Ancestry log in ? > > As you should be able to log in to Ancestry if you have that information > > If you can't remember it there is I seem to remember a link when you > go to log in, for when you cannot remember your log in > > When you are logged in you should be able to access your own trees and > be able to edit them > > =========== > > Ancestry trees are made up of of two distinct elements > > 1) the date you submitted with anything that you uploaded to that > Ancestry tree > > 2) any data based on Ancestry (such as a census entry) which you > linked to your tree > > The latter will not be viewable by you as a non subscriber > > Should you get a free period on Ancestry which covers those records, > or take out any form of subscription to Ancestry, you will be able to > view those attached Ancestry records > > Hope that explains it a little better > > If and when anyone gets a subscription to Ancestry I would suggest > they *always* download a copy of any record found on Ancestry to their > hard drive, regardless of whether they link it to their tree or upload > that record to their tree > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 07-Aug-17 5:19 PM, Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Hi Nivard, I placed a few trees on Ancestry when I was a subscriber >> (now lapsed) the errors are my own but now cannot get past the sign >> on page to view my trees let alone make the necessary amendments. I >> do not fully understand this line of your reply. >> >> /If you have attached any record from Ancestry, you will not be able >> to view it but otherwise you can edit your tree(s) /(I think I might >> have my "thick" head on today) >> >> Chris > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com >

Hi Chris Are you saying you cannot remember your Ancestry log in ? As you should be able to log in to Ancestry if you have that information If you can't remember it there is I seem to remember a link when you go to log in, for when you cannot remember your log in When you are logged in you should be able to access your own trees and be able to edit them =========== Ancestry trees are made up of of two distinct elements 1) the date you submitted with anything that you uploaded to that Ancestry tree 2) any data based on Ancestry (such as a census entry) which you linked to your tree The latter will not be viewable by you as a non subscriber Should you get a free period on Ancestry which covers those records, or take out any form of subscription to Ancestry, you will be able to view those attached Ancestry records Hope that explains it a little better If and when anyone gets a subscription to Ancestry I would suggest they *always* download a copy of any record found on Ancestry to their hard drive, regardless of whether they link it to their tree or upload that record to their tree Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07-Aug-17 5:19 PM, Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi Nivard, I placed a few trees on Ancestry when I was a subscriber > (now lapsed) the errors are my own but now cannot get past the sign on > page to view my trees let alone make the necessary amendments. I do not > fully understand this line of your reply. > > /If you have attached any record from Ancestry, you will not be able to > view it but otherwise you can edit your tree(s) /(I think I might have > my "thick" head on today) > > Chris

Hi Nivard, I placed a few trees on Ancestry when I was a subscriber (now lapsed) the errors are my own but now cannot get past the sign on page to view my trees let alone make the necessary amendments. I do not fully understand this line of your reply. /If you have attached any record from Ancestry, you will not be able to view it but otherwise you can edit your tree(s) /(I think I might have my "thick" head on today) Chris On 07/08/2017 16:54, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: > > Hi Chris > > You do not have to be a subscriber to have a tree or trees on Ancestry > > If you have attached any record from Ancestry, you will not be able to > view it but otherwise you can edit your tree(s) > > If anyone else has copied your data to their tree, you are stuck with > it, you might try sending a message to those tree owners but a lot do > not reply or do and say they are right > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 07-Aug-17 11:07 AM, Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> I have a few "trees" listed on Ancestry and note the same error >> appears on all of them. Not the fault of Ancestry but my own. I would >> like to correct these errors but no longer have an active >> subscription to Ancestry. Is there a way of doing this. I believe >> Find my past allows you to continue with your own tree even after >> membership has ceased. >> >> Chris Bowden > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com >

Hi Chris You do not have to be a subscriber to have a tree or trees on Ancestry If you have attached any record from Ancestry, you will not be able to view it but otherwise you can edit your tree(s) If anyone else has copied your data to their tree, you are stuck with it, you might try sending a message to those tree owners but a lot do not reply or do and say they are right Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07-Aug-17 11:07 AM, Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I have a few "trees" listed on Ancestry and note the same error appears > on all of them. Not the fault of Ancestry but my own. I would like to > correct these errors but no longer have an active subscription to > Ancestry. Is there a way of doing this. I believe Find my past allows > you to continue with your own tree even after membership has ceased. > > Chris Bowden

we  updated from a very old FTM program and its fine...  just backup first.. HAVE A GREAT DAY.!Charlene On Monday, August 7, 2017 7:51 AM, carole williams via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> wrote: Totally agree again Bob. Carole ________________________________ From: Bob Butler <[email protected]> Sent: 07 August 2017 12:28 To: carole williams; Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Bob Butler Subject: RE: [DBY] FTM 2017 Thanks Carole for your endorsement. I should mention that I was originally looking forward to having the link to Family Search but am very disappointed in practice. The only links it provides are to the trees that are being added to the FS site and I do not find these fully reliable or useful. I have heard that links to the records may be added later – I certainly hope that this is correct. Bob Butler Nottingham From: carole williams [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 August 2017 12:24 To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Cc: Bob Butler <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 I agree with Bob Butler.  Compact then back up all your trees.  Then download it and sync.  Bob's right - there's little visible change really - colour options and links to Family Search as well as Ancestry. Carole ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Bob Butler via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 07 August 2017 12:14 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Bob Butler Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 I have been using the FTM 2017 program for some time now - first as a beta tester and now as a fully released version. As with all new releases there are a few minor issues that still need resolving but in the main it works extremely well. I personally have not had any issues with syncing although during the testing stages I know that some people did - these issues now appear to be resolved. The problems I have seen reported about installing 2017 appear to be more user issues than anything else - however I found the process both simple and painless. 2017 is almost identical to 2014 with the addition of a couple of new features so if you were happy with 2014 you should have no problems with 2017 - I would highly recommend it. However, if you are still a little nervous about it - do a full back up of your existing tree prior to downloading 2017 so that you have something to revert back to if you do not like it or have problems.  Also it is possible to export a 2014 version and / or a GEDCOM from 2017 which you can do from time to time as you make changes to your tree. In addition you could revert back to your older FTM version and download your tree from Ancestry should you have problems with 2017. As you have already paid for the upgrade you have nothing to lose by giving it a go. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:42 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 Hello everyone Good to see new postings, although I must admit I haven't  posted much recently.  I'm trying to decide whether its wise to download  the new FTM 2017 programme which I have paid for, but there are so many comments  about it I'm rather doubtful now.  Can anyone recommend another programme  that works as well as the old FTM ones did?  I've used FTM for many years  now. Lin In a message dated 07/08/2017 11:34:59 GMT Summer Time, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> writes: I  believe that this is also possible on Ancestry. Bob  Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On  Behalf Of Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:07 To:  [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Chris Bowden  <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [DBY] My  (Heritage) Data Correction I have a few "trees" listed on Ancestry and  note the same error appears on all of them. Not the fault of Ancestry but my  own. I would like to correct these errors but no longer have an active  subscription to Ancestry. Is there a way of doing this. I believe Find my past  allows you to continue with your own tree even after membership has  ceased. Chris Bowden On 07/08/2017 10:05, Nivard Ovington  via DERBYSGEN wrote: > It is good to hear of a good and speedy  outcome > > Unlike some other organisations I could mention  ;-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On  07-Aug-17 9:36 AM, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> I was wandering  around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the >> MyHeritage  website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, >>  dead. >> With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot  of us so >> I was in no doubt it was me.  Whoever had posted  had mixed me up with >> my mother > > >  ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please  send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word  'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the  message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by  AVG. >  http://www.avg.com > ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from  the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word  'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are there any list members researching the DONIGAN or DONNAKIN name in the New Mills area before 1841?. I am researching a Mary DONIGAN, Mary was my GGG-Grandmother. I found Mary's  maiden name on her daughter Elizabeth SPENCER'S birth certificate. Mary was born in Kildare, Ireland in the 1851 Salford census. I am assuming she had a strong Irish accent and not being able to read or write she did not notice her name was spelt wrong on her wedding record. I would think it was written as it sounded when told at the church. A marriage of Thomas Spencer to a Mary Dunnakin was located in Old Glossop Church records in Glossop Derbyshire on the 29th of August 1831. Witnessed by James Platt and Bernard Hilton. Based on a birth record. About five months before the 1841 Ardwick, Lancashire census the family were residing in New Mills, in the county of Derbyshire. Other Salford census records show most of the family were born in the New Mills area The following is information on the area in Derbyshire where they resided before 1841.The 1861 Salford census shows Thomas SPENCER as born 1810 in Thornsett, New Mills. Thomas was recorded in various census as born in New Mills, Derbyshire. But Beard, Ollerset, Whittle and Thornset were the old names for the area now called New Mills. (The following was supplied by one of our kind List members) The name of NEW MILLS does not appear in the parliamentary population returns. It was originally known as Bowden-Middle-Call, comprising  several hamlets: about a century ago it was subdivided, three of the hamlets  remaining attached to Hayfield, and the other four, BEARD,  OLERSET, WHITTLE and THORNSETT, being formed into a  township. A new mill was then erected for the use of the inhabitants of  these hamlets, upon the river Kinder and the name of New Mills was, in  consequence, conferred on the four before mentioned hamlets - which, by the  returns for 1831, contained, together, 3,538 inhabitants. A marriage by banns of Thomas Spencer to a Mary Dunakin took place at Old Glossop Church, Glossop, Derbyshire on the 29th of August 1831. In the presence of James Platt and Bernard Hilliam.  Their daughter Elizabeth was born at 4 Guardian street, Salford Lancs. per her birth certificate. Baptism: 25 Jun 1848 Cathedral Church of St John the Evangelist, Salford, Lancs.  Elizabeth Spencer - [Child] of Thomas Spencer & Mary (formerly Donegan)      Born: 19 May 1848      God Parents: Henry O'Neil; Esther Heyes      Baptised by: James Boardman      Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1855, Page 43      Source: Original Register at LRO Hopefully some one might have an interest in Mary DONIGAN/DUNNAKIN ? Kind regards, Mike Morris    Toronto Canada

Totally agree again Bob. Carole ________________________________ From: Bob Butler <[email protected]> Sent: 07 August 2017 12:28 To: carole williams; Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Bob Butler Subject: RE: [DBY] FTM 2017 Thanks Carole for your endorsement. I should mention that I was originally looking forward to having the link to Family Search but am very disappointed in practice. The only links it provides are to the trees that are being added to the FS site and I do not find these fully reliable or useful. I have heard that links to the records may be added later – I certainly hope that this is correct. Bob Butler Nottingham From: carole williams [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 August 2017 12:24 To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Cc: Bob Butler <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 I agree with Bob Butler. Compact then back up all your trees. Then download it and sync. Bob's right - there's little visible change really - colour options and links to Family Search as well as Ancestry. Carole ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Bob Butler via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 07 August 2017 12:14 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Bob Butler Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 I have been using the FTM 2017 program for some time now - first as a beta tester and now as a fully released version. As with all new releases there are a few minor issues that still need resolving but in the main it works extremely well. I personally have not had any issues with syncing although during the testing stages I know that some people did - these issues now appear to be resolved. The problems I have seen reported about installing 2017 appear to be more user issues than anything else - however I found the process both simple and painless. 2017 is almost identical to 2014 with the addition of a couple of new features so if you were happy with 2014 you should have no problems with 2017 - I would highly recommend it. However, if you are still a little nervous about it - do a full back up of your existing tree prior to downloading 2017 so that you have something to revert back to if you do not like it or have problems. Also it is possible to export a 2014 version and / or a GEDCOM from 2017 which you can do from time to time as you make changes to your tree. In addition you could revert back to your older FTM version and download your tree from Ancestry should you have problems with 2017. As you have already paid for the upgrade you have nothing to lose by giving it a go. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:42 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 Hello everyone Good to see new postings, although I must admit I haven't posted much recently. I'm trying to decide whether its wise to download the new FTM 2017 programme which I have paid for, but there are so many comments about it I'm rather doubtful now. Can anyone recommend another programme that works as well as the old FTM ones did? I've used FTM for many years now. Lin In a message dated 07/08/2017 11:34:59 GMT Summer Time, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> writes: I believe that this is also possible on Ancestry. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:07 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Chris Bowden <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [DBY] My (Heritage) Data Correction I have a few "trees" listed on Ancestry and note the same error appears on all of them. Not the fault of Ancestry but my own. I would like to correct these errors but no longer have an active subscription to Ancestry. Is there a way of doing this. I believe Find my past allows you to continue with your own tree even after membership has ceased. Chris Bowden On 07/08/2017 10:05, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: > It is good to hear of a good and speedy outcome > > Unlike some other organisations I could mention ;-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 07-Aug-17 9:36 AM, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> I was wandering around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the >> MyHeritage website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, >> dead. >> With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot of us so >> I was in no doubt it was me. Whoever had posted had mixed me up with >> my mother > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Further to my previous post, I emailed FamilySearch again in the light of Jodie Williams' post, asking for a clearer explanation. I've received the following response - Thank you for contacting the FamilySearch support team. Your support case has been updated. That message means in FHC as it indicates. We have a canned email we send indicating rights might have changed and to go to the FHC. We have had enough comments on that collection that we will go back and review it to see if rights were changed by the system as well as the contracts. The system said that it was changed but the contracts don't match. When that happens we ask legal to contact the owners of the records to verify rights. That is the stage we are at right now. One of the cases that was sent in was a person saying they never changed rights so based on that I suspect the issue will be resolved soon and it will be opened back up. If anyone can understand and explain this in words of one syllable, I'd be very grateful! Sue Herrington in Notts -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:51 PM To: Nick ; [email protected] Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] Parish Registers on Familysearch viewable online? Thanks for yours Nick I thought one conversation was on facebook which as I was blocked on there I couldn't check So started a new account, less than 24 hours later thats been blocked too But then checked back and see the earlier conversation was on Derbysgen anyway First the DBY registers were available, then only at an FHS, then open again and now closed But it seems its a problem they are looking at so hopefully they will be open yet again Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06-Aug-17 9:53 AM, Nick wrote: > The message you saw has been there for at least a month. Before that, the > registers were variously available at home, and not available at all. > Complete confusion and inconsistency. > Also, there was an earlier thread as to whether they were PRs and BTs. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Carole for your endorsement. I should mention that I was originally looking forward to having the link to Family Search but am very disappointed in practice. The only links it provides are to the trees that are being added to the FS site and I do not find these fully reliable or useful. I have heard that links to the records may be added later - I certainly hope that this is correct. Bob Butler Nottingham From: carole williams [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 August 2017 12:24 To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Cc: Bob Butler <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 I agree with Bob Butler. Compact then back up all your trees. Then download it and sync. Bob's right - there's little visible change really - colour options and links to Family Search as well as Ancestry. Carole ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Bob Butler via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 07 August 2017 12:14 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Bob Butler Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 I have been using the FTM 2017 program for some time now - first as a beta tester and now as a fully released version. As with all new releases there are a few minor issues that still need resolving but in the main it works extremely well. I personally have not had any issues with syncing although during the testing stages I know that some people did - these issues now appear to be resolved. The problems I have seen reported about installing 2017 appear to be more user issues than anything else - however I found the process both simple and painless. 2017 is almost identical to 2014 with the addition of a couple of new features so if you were happy with 2014 you should have no problems with 2017 - I would highly recommend it. However, if you are still a little nervous about it - do a full back up of your existing tree prior to downloading 2017 so that you have something to revert back to if you do not like it or have problems. Also it is possible to export a 2014 version and / or a GEDCOM from 2017 which you can do from time to time as you make changes to your tree. In addition you could revert back to your older FTM version and download your tree from Ancestry should you have problems with 2017. As you have already paid for the upgrade you have nothing to lose by giving it a go. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:42 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 Hello everyone Good to see new postings, although I must admit I haven't posted much recently. I'm trying to decide whether its wise to download the new FTM 2017 programme which I have paid for, but there are so many comments about it I'm rather doubtful now. Can anyone recommend another programme that works as well as the old FTM ones did? I've used FTM for many years now. Lin In a message dated 07/08/2017 11:34:59 GMT Summer Time, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> writes: I believe that this is also possible on Ancestry. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:07 To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Chris Bowden <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [DBY] My (Heritage) Data Correction I have a few "trees" listed on Ancestry and note the same error appears on all of them. Not the fault of Ancestry but my own. I would like to correct these errors but no longer have an active subscription to Ancestry. Is there a way of doing this. I believe Find my past allows you to continue with your own tree even after membership has ceased. Chris Bowden On 07/08/2017 10:05, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: > It is good to hear of a good and speedy outcome > > Unlike some other organisations I could mention ;-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 07-Aug-17 9:36 AM, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> I was wandering around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the >> MyHeritage website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, >> dead. >> With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot of us so >> I was in no doubt it was me. Whoever had posted had mixed me up with >> my mother > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Bob Butler. Compact then back up all your trees. Then download it and sync. Bob's right - there's little visible change really - colour options and links to Family Search as well as Ancestry. Carole ________________________________ From: DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Butler via DERBYSGEN <[email protected]> Sent: 07 August 2017 12:14 To: Derbyshire genealogy Cc: Bob Butler Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 I have been using the FTM 2017 program for some time now - first as a beta tester and now as a fully released version. As with all new releases there are a few minor issues that still need resolving but in the main it works extremely well. I personally have not had any issues with syncing although during the testing stages I know that some people did - these issues now appear to be resolved. The problems I have seen reported about installing 2017 appear to be more user issues than anything else - however I found the process both simple and painless. 2017 is almost identical to 2014 with the addition of a couple of new features so if you were happy with 2014 you should have no problems with 2017 - I would highly recommend it. However, if you are still a little nervous about it - do a full back up of your existing tree prior to downloading 2017 so that you have something to revert back to if you do not like it or have problems. Also it is possible to export a 2014 version and / or a GEDCOM from 2017 which you can do from time to time as you make changes to your tree. In addition you could revert back to your older FTM version and download your tree from Ancestry should you have problems with 2017. As you have already paid for the upgrade you have nothing to lose by giving it a go. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:42 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 Hello everyone Good to see new postings, although I must admit I haven't posted much recently. I'm trying to decide whether its wise to download the new FTM 2017 programme which I have paid for, but there are so many comments about it I'm rather doubtful now. Can anyone recommend another programme that works as well as the old FTM ones did? I've used FTM for many years now. Lin In a message dated 07/08/2017 11:34:59 GMT Summer Time, [email protected] writes: I believe that this is also possible on Ancestry. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:07 To: [email protected] Cc: Chris Bowden <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] My (Heritage) Data Correction I have a few "trees" listed on Ancestry and note the same error appears on all of them. Not the fault of Ancestry but my own. I would like to correct these errors but no longer have an active subscription to Ancestry. Is there a way of doing this. I believe Find my past allows you to continue with your own tree even after membership has ceased. Chris Bowden On 07/08/2017 10:05, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: > It is good to hear of a good and speedy outcome > > Unlike some other organisations I could mention ;-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 07-Aug-17 9:36 AM, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> I was wandering around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the >> MyHeritage website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, >> dead. >> With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot of us so >> I was in no doubt it was me. Whoever had posted had mixed me up with >> my mother > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been using the FTM 2017 program for some time now - first as a beta tester and now as a fully released version. As with all new releases there are a few minor issues that still need resolving but in the main it works extremely well. I personally have not had any issues with syncing although during the testing stages I know that some people did - these issues now appear to be resolved. The problems I have seen reported about installing 2017 appear to be more user issues than anything else - however I found the process both simple and painless. 2017 is almost identical to 2014 with the addition of a couple of new features so if you were happy with 2014 you should have no problems with 2017 - I would highly recommend it. However, if you are still a little nervous about it - do a full back up of your existing tree prior to downloading 2017 so that you have something to revert back to if you do not like it or have problems. Also it is possible to export a 2014 version and / or a GEDCOM from 2017 which you can do from time to time as you make changes to your tree. In addition you could revert back to your older FTM version and download your tree from Ancestry should you have problems with 2017. As you have already paid for the upgrade you have nothing to lose by giving it a go. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lcsearch3528--- via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:42 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DBY] FTM 2017 Hello everyone Good to see new postings, although I must admit I haven't posted much recently. I'm trying to decide whether its wise to download the new FTM 2017 programme which I have paid for, but there are so many comments about it I'm rather doubtful now. Can anyone recommend another programme that works as well as the old FTM ones did? I've used FTM for many years now. Lin In a message dated 07/08/2017 11:34:59 GMT Summer Time, [email protected] writes: I believe that this is also possible on Ancestry. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:07 To: [email protected] Cc: Chris Bowden <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] My (Heritage) Data Correction I have a few "trees" listed on Ancestry and note the same error appears on all of them. Not the fault of Ancestry but my own. I would like to correct these errors but no longer have an active subscription to Ancestry. Is there a way of doing this. I believe Find my past allows you to continue with your own tree even after membership has ceased. Chris Bowden On 07/08/2017 10:05, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: > It is good to hear of a good and speedy outcome > > Unlike some other organisations I could mention ;-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 07-Aug-17 9:36 AM, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> I was wandering around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the >> MyHeritage website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, >> dead. >> With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot of us so >> I was in no doubt it was me. Whoever had posted had mixed me up with >> my mother > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a few "trees" listed on Ancestry and note the same error appears on all of them. Not the fault of Ancestry but my own. I would like to correct these errors but no longer have an active subscription to Ancestry. Is there a way of doing this. I believe Find my past allows you to continue with your own tree even after membership has ceased. Chris Bowden On 07/08/2017 10:05, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: > It is good to hear of a good and speedy outcome > > Unlike some other organisations I could mention ;-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 07-Aug-17 9:36 AM, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> I was wandering around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the >> MyHeritage website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, >> dead. >> With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot of us so >> I was >> in no doubt it was me. Whoever had posted had mixed me up with my >> mother > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com >

I went to my local public library last week, (which is listed as an FHC centre on the Familysearch website, but is actually an affiliate FHC, meaning they are/were permitted to have films sent to them for people to view) to view the derbyshire images and some other ones, only to find that access to them was still restricted to 'family history centres' and could not be viewed. The genealogy librarian was very surprised to hear the images were now online at all, she got an email from Salt Lake early this year telling her that films would no longer be made later this year and that's the last communication she's had. I showed her all the restricted messages I'd been getting, and how some images were available but some were not, for reasons all of us here and in my other genealogy groups couldn't figure out. She wondered what the hell the affiliate libraries were actually going to be able to do now since they couldn't get films and couldn't access images, took some screenshots and fired up a letter to her official familysearch contacts. She is going to email me when she gets a response. One month until no more films and the affiliate libraries haven't been told what's going on... Elyssa in Melbourne, Australia Dear All I raised this with FamilySearch yesterday and received the following,  somewhat vague, response - "Thank you for contacting the FamilySearch support team. Your support case  has been updated. This was an issue with contract verification that we are  trying to get fixed. They should be viewed at home so as soon as engineering  fixes it they will be back to viewing at home." I have responded to ask whether or not there is an estimated timeframe. Sue Herrington in Notts

I'd suggest "We think we may have messed up, but we are checking. Don't hold your breath" On 07/08/2017 11:30, sue.herrington9--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: Further to my previous post, I emailed FamilySearch again in the light of Jodie Williams' post, asking for a clearer explanation. I've received the following response - Thank you for contacting the FamilySearch support team. Your support case has been updated. That message means in FHC as it indicates. We have a canned email we send indicating rights might have changed and to go to the FHC. We have had enough comments on that collection that we will go back and review it to see if rights were changed by the system as well as the contracts. The system said that it was changed but the contracts don't match. When that happens we ask legal to contact the owners of the records to verify rights. That is the stage we are at right now. One of the cases that was sent in was a person saying they never changed rights so based on that I suspect the issue will be resolved soon and it will be opened back up. If anyone can understand and explain this in words of one syllable, I'd be very grateful! Sue Herrington in Notts -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:51 PM To: Nick ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: Nivard Ovington Subject: Re: [DBY] Parish Registers on Familysearch viewable online? Thanks for yours Nick I thought one conversation was on facebook which as I was blocked on there I couldn't check So started a new account, less than 24 hours later thats been blocked too But then checked back and see the earlier conversation was on Derbysgen anyway First the DBY registers were available, then only at an FHS, then open again and now closed But it seems its a problem they are looking at so hopefully they will be open yet again Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06-Aug-17 9:53 AM, Nick wrote: The message you saw has been there for at least a month. Before that, the registers were variously available at home, and not available at all. Complete confusion and inconsistency. Also, there was an earlier thread as to whether they were PRs and BTs. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe that this is also possible on Ancestry. Bob Butler Nottingham -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Bowden via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 11:07 To: [email protected] Cc: Chris Bowden <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DBY] My (Heritage) Data Correction I have a few "trees" listed on Ancestry and note the same error appears on all of them. Not the fault of Ancestry but my own. I would like to correct these errors but no longer have an active subscription to Ancestry. Is there a way of doing this. I believe Find my past allows you to continue with your own tree even after membership has ceased. Chris Bowden On 07/08/2017 10:05, Nivard Ovington via DERBYSGEN wrote: > It is good to hear of a good and speedy outcome > > Unlike some other organisations I could mention ;-) > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 07-Aug-17 9:36 AM, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> I was wandering around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the >> MyHeritage website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, >> dead. >> With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot of us so >> I was in no doubt it was me. Whoever had posted had mixed me up with >> my mother > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > http://www.avg.com > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'll let you know. I agree that none has a good reputation for this so that is why I posted. Meg -----Original Message----- From: Bob Butler [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 August 2017 10:06 To: Derbyshire genealogy <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [DBY] My Heritage Data Correction That is a very surprising reply because My Heritage has a reputation for not being helpful - normally the opposite (and some things much worse). Generally the information in the trees on their site is a million times worse than other sites such as Family Search and Ancestry. It would be interesting to hear if this does get corrected or not. Bob Butler -----Original Message----- From: DERBYSGEN [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of meg--- via DERBYSGEN Sent: 07 August 2017 09:36 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [DBY] My Heritage Data Correction I was wandering around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the MyHeritage website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, dead. With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot of us so I was in no doubt it was me. Whoever had posted had mixed me up with my mother named Joan Peach (you can see why they might be confused!) and hence I died in 1998. I am not a member of this site and had no desire to join but I contacted them via their contacts page and told them the problem and asked for the information to be removed and the person who had posted it to be told they were a b****y awful researcher as my correct year of birth was also shown on the same page. Within 24 hours I had a reply from a named person with a request for the URL and/or a screenshot of the erroneous data including instructions on how to do this. I supplied both yesterday (Sunday) and this morning had a nice thank you and an assurance the information would be removed within 48 hours but if I checked after that and it was still there, to get back in touch. We hear a lot of stories about problems getting errors corrected so just thought I would give credit where it is due. Meg Galley-Taylor ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is good to hear of a good and speedy outcome Unlike some other organisations I could mention ;-) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07-Aug-17 9:36 AM, meg--- via DERBYSGEN wrote: > I was wandering around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the > MyHeritage website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, dead. > With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot of us so I was > in no doubt it was me. Whoever had posted had mixed me up with my mother

I was wandering around in cyberspace as you do and happened upon the MyHeritage website and was quite surprised to find myself on there, dead. With a name like Magdalen Galley there are not exactly a lot of us so I was in no doubt it was me. Whoever had posted had mixed me up with my mother named Joan Peach (you can see why they might be confused!) and hence I died in 1998. I am not a member of this site and had no desire to join but I contacted them via their contacts page and told them the problem and asked for the information to be removed and the person who had posted it to be told they were a b****y awful researcher as my correct year of birth was also shown on the same page. Within 24 hours I had a reply from a named person with a request for the URL and/or a screenshot of the erroneous data including instructions on how to do this. I supplied both yesterday (Sunday) and this morning had a nice thank you and an assurance the information would be removed within 48 hours but if I checked after that and it was still there, to get back in touch. We hear a lot of stories about problems getting errors corrected so just thought I would give credit where it is due. Meg Galley-Taylor