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There are several mentions of Bowden in the Diary of Rev. James Clegg (1708 to 1755) Minister and Doctor, indexed as follows: Bowden , Mrs, of Hayfield, 836 Alice 453 George 111, 390 Joseph of Rushup Edge, 229 Nathaniel , 156, 157-158, 222, 229 Ralph of New Mills 55 I'll just look up the Hayfield and New Mills entries as you have those place names:- Page 836 (Vol.111) 1753 August 22 I took a ride to Heafield to see Mrs Bowden, prayd with and prescribd for her and returnd in good time, J Shirt of Chinley accompanied me. Page 55 (Vol. I) 1729 April 14 wind e warm set out with daughter Ann towards Roachdale, calld to an old man at the New Mill Ralph Bowden, passed thence through Marple, dined at Stockport, visited Dr. Leech at Manchester and lay with my son James in that town. Hope these help a little, All the best, Malcolm Hutton (Melbourne Australia) Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 11:29:09 +0100 From: Chris Bowden <christopher.bowden@mypostoffice.co.uk> Subject: [DBY]Derabyshire High Peak interests To: Derbyshire genealogy <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8b29f1f8-fafe-425e-a213-a57e87c91f8a@mypostoffice.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Interests Bowden 1680-1950 Hayfield, New Mills, Mellor, Glossop Stockport and Manchester

Interesting site. I need to navigate it to find link to my Doxeys. Anne -----Original Message----- From: Rick H. Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 11:41 AM To: 'Nick Higton' ; 'Derbyshire genealogy' Subject: [DBY]Re: HIGTON HERITAGE Website Nick, Nice looking website. Just beginning to navigate it. It appears that we could intersect (almost, I think?) research. If I assume that you are descended from a sibling of Ann Higton (b ca 1770 d 1842) who marries Thomas Doxey then we could be 'shirt tail cousins'. I am descended from a sibling of Thomas Doxey, Abraham (b ca 1773 d 1852). Though your family shows several intersections with the Doxey surname, mine shows only one intersection with Higton (so far). \s\Rick -----Original Message----- From: Nick Higton [mailto:nick@higton.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 4:39 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]HIGTON HERITAGE Website Listers might be interested in my HIGTON HERITAGE family history website, that I put online recently. It explores the genealogy of the HIGTON family that originated in Cromford, spread to Wirksworth, and then on to various other places in Derbyshire, the surrounding counties, and then across the world. http://higton.one-name.net/index.php The principal Derbyshire names included are: HIGTON, DOXEY, GELL, HALLAM, WALKER, PEAT, and GREGORY, and you will find a fuller list at the foot of my homepage. I developed the website using the facilities offered by the Guild of One Name Studies. You can check to see if one of your names of interest is a registered study here: https://one-name.org/ or whether it is included in one of the studies here: http://tng.one-name.net/synergy/surname_cloud/ The "Cloud" that appears after you type in your name will show the registered studies that include the name. Click on any of them for further details. My study remains work in progress, and I have a lot of data still to transfer to the website. Nevertheless, I would welcome additional information and, particularly, suggestions where I have made errors. Kind regards Nick Higton _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Nick, Nice looking website. Just beginning to navigate it. It appears that we could intersect (almost, I think?) research. If I assume that you are descended from a sibling of Ann Higton (b ca 1770 d 1842) who marries Thomas Doxey then we could be 'shirt tail cousins'. I am descended from a sibling of Thomas Doxey, Abraham (b ca 1773 d 1852). Though your family shows several intersections with the Doxey surname, mine shows only one intersection with Higton (so far). \s\Rick -----Original Message----- From: Nick Higton [mailto:nick@higton.co.uk] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 4:39 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]HIGTON HERITAGE Website Listers might be interested in my HIGTON HERITAGE family history website, that I put online recently. It explores the genealogy of the HIGTON family that originated in Cromford, spread to Wirksworth, and then on to various other places in Derbyshire, the surrounding counties, and then across the world. http://higton.one-name.net/index.php The principal Derbyshire names included are: HIGTON, DOXEY, GELL, HALLAM, WALKER, PEAT, and GREGORY, and you will find a fuller list at the foot of my homepage. I developed the website using the facilities offered by the Guild of One Name Studies. You can check to see if one of your names of interest is a registered study here: https://one-name.org/ or whether it is included in one of the studies here: http://tng.one-name.net/synergy/surname_cloud/ The "Cloud" that appears after you type in your name will show the registered studies that include the name. Click on any of them for further details. My study remains work in progress, and I have a lot of data still to transfer to the website. Nevertheless, I would welcome additional information and, particularly, suggestions where I have made errors. Kind regards Nick Higton _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I really enjoyed it - a good start to the new series even if we will have to wait a while for the next episode. Especially interesting as I am currently researching my daughter's partner's family in Gibraltar. Bob Butler Nottingham Sent from Samsung tablet -------- Original message -------- From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Date:10/06/2018 08:53 (GMT+00:00) To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: WDYTYA You are spot on Someone reminded me late last night that I had completely forgotten it was on Good job the repeat everything several times these days and you can catch up on iplayer Funny I sort of miss the days when you had to be *in* to watch a certain program Top of the Pops for example or the Man from Uncle ;-) I will try and watch WDYTYA later and probably post afterwards Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/06/2018 01:35, stuart wrote: > Hello Nivard, Have you missed the start of You Do You......Love Stu x _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

You are spot on Someone reminded me late last night that I had completely forgotten it was on Good job the repeat everything several times these days and you can catch up on iplayer Funny I sort of miss the days when you had to be *in* to watch a certain program Top of the Pops for example or the Man from Uncle ;-) I will try and watch WDYTYA later and probably post afterwards Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/06/2018 01:35, stuart wrote: > Hello Nivard, Have you missed the start of You Do You......Love Stu x

Hello Nivard, Have you missed the start of You Do You......Love Stu x ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: 06 June 2018 12:28 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: test >> no replies required Thank you :-) No one else need reply though Please just ignore Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06/06/2018 12:20, Alison via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Received > _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>

Hi Jane, thanks for contacting me. I have a little knowledge of Elizabeth who married Wm Turner and will search my archive for anything of interest to you. You may also be interested to learn that this ranch of the Bowden family and the Turners are well represented in two books. A Derbyshire Childhood         by James Philip Bowden     and The History of Bethel Chapel Hayfiled. The Bowdens are also well represented at Charleswsorth Independant Chapel (Top Chapel) for which there is also a History booklet. kind regards Chris Bowden On 08/06/2018 23:22, Jane Coop wrote: > I have Elizabeth Bowden 1866-?  married John Wm Turner of Fernilee, > Whaley Bridge 1884, registered Chapel en le Frith.  My notes state her > mother may have been a Ruth or Hannah Drinkwater.  Also: Elizabeth R > Bowden wife of Harry Charlesworth married Glossop 1913 - gravestone at > Top Chapel, Charlesworth states:  "Harry Charlesworth, son, husband of > Elizabeth S. Charlesworth, of Birkenhead, died 11.1.1937 aged 62" > > I'm not researching the Bowden surname but have interests in Glossop > and surrounding areas.  I've no further information on the two above > female Bowdens. > Regards > Jane (Saddleworth) > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Bowden" > <christopher.bowden@mypostoffice.co.uk> > To: "Derbyshire genealogy" <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 11:29 AM > Subject: [DBY]Derabyshire High Peak interests > > >> Interests Bowden 1680-1950 >> >> Hayfield, New Mills, Mellor, Glossop Stockport and Manchester >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Archives: >> https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: >> https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal >> RootsWeb community >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com >

Listers might be interested in my HIGTON HERITAGE family history website, that I put online recently. It explores the genealogy of the HIGTON family that originated in Cromford, spread to Wirksworth, and then on to various other places in Derbyshire, the surrounding counties, and then across the world. http://higton.one-name.net/index.php The principal Derbyshire names included are: HIGTON, DOXEY, GELL, HALLAM, WALKER, PEAT, and GREGORY, and you will find a fuller list at the foot of my homepage. I developed the website using the facilities offered by the Guild of One Name Studies. You can check to see if one of your names of interest is a registered study here: https://one-name.org/ or whether it is included in one of the studies here: http://tng.one-name.net/synergy/surname_cloud/ The "Cloud" that appears after you type in your name will show the registered studies that include the name. Click on any of them for further details. My study remains work in progress, and I have a lot of data still to transfer to the website. Nevertheless, I would welcome additional information and, particularly, suggestions where I have made errors. Kind regards Nick Higton

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I have Elizabeth Bowden 1866-? married John Wm Turner of Fernilee, Whaley Bridge 1884, registered Chapel en le Frith. My notes state her mother may have been a Ruth or Hannah Drinkwater. Also: Elizabeth R Bowden wife of Harry Charlesworth married Glossop 1913 - gravestone at Top Chapel, Charlesworth states: "Harry Charlesworth, son, husband of Elizabeth S. Charlesworth, of Birkenhead, died 11.1.1937 aged 62" I'm not researching the Bowden surname but have interests in Glossop and surrounding areas. I've no further information on the two above female Bowdens. Regards Jane (Saddleworth) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Bowden" <christopher.bowden@mypostoffice.co.uk> To: "Derbyshire genealogy" <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 11:29 AM Subject: [DBY]Derabyshire High Peak interests > Interests Bowden 1680-1950 > > Hayfield, New Mills, Mellor, Glossop Stockport and Manchester > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: > https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Interests Bowden 1680-1950 Hayfield, New Mills, Mellor, Glossop  Stockport and Manchester

Good evening Just to say I have now finished adding the rather large collection of photos from Brian & Herbert Key to the www.crichparish.co.uk <http://www.crichparish.co.uk/> site. Quite a few I had not seen before. Best way of seeing them is from the Home page then photo album choosing the B&H Key collection. Back now to re-looking at my Patilla/Pertiller/Pattullo/Pitiller/et al family tree trying to track down a couple of illusives. Finally, it is getting very close to having to reprint the new Roll of Honour of Crich folk who served during WW1 Since the last one in 2014 we have discovered much more about some of the men including tracking down about 100 photographs plus an extra c30 men who ought to have been listed. If anyone out there might have had a Crich relative who served I would be grateful if they could look at the www.crichparish-ww1.co.uk <http://www.crichparish-ww1.co.uk/> site to check what we have and hopefully provide us with further info. This Roll will be my last and I do want it to be as full and correct as possible. We hope to have the new Roll printed, framed and dedicated by the time of the Remembrance Service in St Mary’s Church, Crich in November 2018 Should I go and watch WDYTYA about some actress I do not know? Or a book and an Islay malt? Decisions, Decisions! Peter

I can't speak for Derbyshire but I am researching Broadleys in the West Riding of Yorkshire. We got back to Yorkshire from Lancashire via a Y-DNA project. I am searching before 1632 when Abraham Broadley was born. I am slowly buying all the Broadley wills. I would also say, if you can, look at all the other wills in the same area. I have found many Broadleys as witnesses, which hints at marriages before parish registers. If you can put people into a larger group, whether marital or socio-economic, it helps to trace members of that group. Taxation is useful. The Poll Tax was 1379 and then there are various Lay Subsidies which will tell you how rich your ancestor was. I don't know what the survival for Derbyshire is. I have searched TNA and local record offices for documents online under many spellings. If someone is having property handed over to him, this may again be a clue to a marriage. I have Googled all sorts of related words, places, etc. I have read background books on the history of the area. I have looked at trees of people who married in. There are also Manorial Records- what is the coverage of those in Derbyshire? Are there any religious charters? Although I can go forward from 1362 when John Broadley (the first Broadley) built Broadley Hall and I can go back with certainty to about 1480 to unknown Broadley father of Richard and William, it is clear there are more people existing than appear in the records I have found. I am certain of the 1300s and the 1500s but the 1400s are still unclear. I do apologise if you know all this already. Anyone who would like to offer me advice on mediaeval research is very welcome! Have you read George Redmonds' Christian names in Local and Family History? Before Cromwell, people called their children after godparents, who might be family members but also, often, their landlords. If you are lucky enough to find an unusual first name, it may help to make deductions.

Thank you :-) No one else need reply though Please just ignore Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06/06/2018 12:20, Alison via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Received >

Received Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Jun 2018, at 11:57, Dennis Flavell <dennisflavell33@icloud.com> wrote: > > Received. > Dennis Flavell > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 6, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Nivard J Ovington via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Just a test >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ >> >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Dennis I sent you a mail off list the other day, as you had posted from an address that was not subscribed to the list, asking for a change of email address To which I explained that you can do it yourself in a couple of ways The next day I received another, so I manually added the new? address So you need to tell me which address you wish to use for the list so I can delete the others As I explained in my off list reply, you can do all this yourself by registering with rootsweb when you will be able to see the lists you are subbed to and change address when necessary For instructions on registering see http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Or you can sub unsub using the above link selecting Mailing Lists and then search for the relevant list and addresses are on the lists home page Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06/06/2018 11:59, Dennis Flavell wrote: > Test to Gmail also received > Dennis Flavell 2 >

Test to Gmail also received Dennis Flavell 2 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Nivard J Ovington via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Just a test > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

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