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    1. [DBY]Re: Derbyshire Sources, etc.
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Edna I am not sure what you mean by "new Rootsweb owners" ? Rootsweb has been owned by Ancestry since 2000 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 13:36, liverpud wrote: > > It is really a shame that these new Rootsweb owners did not receive any > good advice > from our original volunteer team on Rootsweb.... they did such a fine job. > > Regards, > > Edna - sunny Ottawa

    06/15/2018 06:45:51
    1. [DBY]Derbyshire Sources, etc.
    2. liverpud
    3. It is really a shame that these new Rootsweb owners did not receive any good advice from our original volunteer team on Rootsweb.... they did such a fine job. Regards, Edna - sunny Ottawa

    06/15/2018 06:36:24
    1. [DBY]Re: North West Derbyshire Sources
    2. Martin Mosley
    3. Hi Marjorie, Your home page is running slowly because you’re using .gif images. You need to change the file format to .jpg and replace them.. You can then test your site speed using: tools.pingdom.com <http://tools.pingdom.com/> That will give you other clues, but for the moment, the only issue it reports is those images. Martin > On 15 Jun 2018, at 12:20, Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Good Morning > > I have given up on Rootsweb ever bringing back the websites they supported so have developed a new website - nwdbysources.uk . Currently it seems to load the Home page rather slowly but fast enough between other pages. If anyone has ideas of why the site is loading slowly I would love to know. This is the first time I have published a new sources page in 20 years so have found it very mind expanding. Maybe it will keep Alzheimers at bay a little longer! > > Marjorie Ward, Derbyshire, UK > Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net > Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; > Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    06/15/2018 06:00:23
    1. [DBY]Re: North West Derbyshire Sources
    2. Alan Bloor
    3. That’s good news. I was thinking about doing the same thing as Marjorie but it would mean rewriting multiple hyperlinks so I was hanging on for a bit longer. Alan Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 12:25:31 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: North West Derbyshire Sources Hi Marjorie The Rootsweb project manager has said in the last week or so that the freepages are being worked on and should be available again in a matter of a few weeks Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 11:20, Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Good Morning > > I have given up on Rootsweb ever bringing back the websites they > supported so have developed a new website - nwdbysources.uk . Currently > it seems to load the Home page rather slowly but fast enough between > other pages. If anyone has ideas of why the site is loading slowly I > would love to know. This is the first time I have published a new > sources page in 20 years so have found it very mind expanding. Maybe it > will keep Alzheimers at bay a little longer! > > Marjorie Ward, Derbyshire, UK _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    06/15/2018 05:43:55
    1. [DBY]Re: North West Derbyshire Sources
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Marjorie The Rootsweb project manager has said in the last week or so that the freepages are being worked on and should be available again in a matter of a few weeks Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 11:20, Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Good Morning > > I have given up on Rootsweb ever bringing back the websites they > supported so have developed a new website - nwdbysources.uk .  Currently > it seems to load the Home page rather slowly but fast enough between > other pages.  If anyone has ideas of why the site is loading slowly I > would love to know. This is the first time I have published a new > sources page in 20 years so have found it very mind expanding.  Maybe it > will keep Alzheimers at bay a little longer! > > Marjorie Ward, Derbyshire, UK

    06/15/2018 05:25:31
    1. [DBY]Re: North West Derbyshire Sources
    2. Marjorie Ward
    3. Good Morning I have given up on Rootsweb ever bringing back the websites they supported so have developed a new website - nwdbysources.uk . Currently it seems to load the Home page rather slowly but fast enough between other pages. If anyone has ideas of why the site is loading slowly I would love to know. This is the first time I have published a new sources page in 20 years so have found it very mind expanding. Maybe it will keep Alzheimers at bay a little longer! Marjorie Ward, Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk

    06/15/2018 04:20:50
    1. [DBY]Re: Where was Edinsower?
    2. Mark Allen
    3. I would certainly say so, and Jeayes obviously thought it was too as it appears under Edensor in the "Index of Places" and is phonetically similar to other charters indexed there. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Higton [mailto:nick@higton.co.uk] Sent: 14 June 2018 18:48 To: Derbyshire list Subject: [DBY]Where was Edinsower? I've been looking for my ancient relatives in the "Descriptive Catalogue of Derbyshire Charters" by Isaac Herbert Jeayes, published in 1906. A copy is available to download from the Internet Archive. One entry refers to a 1460 document at Brimington, involving William HIGDON of Edinsower and Joan, his wife. I'm guessing that this might be Edensor, but can anyone confirm, please? _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    06/14/2018 01:07:46
    1. [DBY]Re: Where was Edinsower?
    2. Philip Marsh
    3. How about Edwinstowe in Nottinghamshire? Philip Marsh Sent from iPhone > On 14 Jun 2018, at 18:48, Nick Higton <nick@higton.co.uk> wrote: > > I've been looking for my ancient relatives in the "Descriptive Catalogue of Derbyshire Charters" by Isaac Herbert Jeayes, published in 1906. A copy is available to download from the Internet Archive. > > One entry refers to a 1460 document at Brimington, involving William HIGDON of Edinsower and Joan, his wife. I'm guessing that this might be Edensor, but can anyone confirm, please? > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    06/14/2018 12:37:49
    1. [DBY]Where was Edinsower?
    2. Nick Higton
    3. I've been looking for my ancient relatives in the "Descriptive Catalogue of Derbyshire Charters" by Isaac Herbert Jeayes, published in 1906. A copy is available to download from the Internet Archive. One entry refers to a 1460 document at Brimington, involving William HIGDON of Edinsower and Joan, his wife. I'm guessing that this might be Edensor, but can anyone confirm, please?

    06/14/2018 11:48:25
    1. [DBY]Re: Admin post on new system reminder
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi Sue I asked the Rootsweb project manager about this and she replied to say that all new registrations, except for the mailing lists are not available for a while But for mailing lists see https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/accounts/signup/ NB if you are already signed in to Rootsweb it will look different to the sign in screen above, and will show your user id top right and this text below Mailing Lists Looking for a specific mailing list? Visit our index page of available mailing lists, where you can browse the complete set of mailing lists or search for a specific list by surname, location, or topic. Looking for mailing list archives? You can search all list archives or find a specific list to search only that list's archives. Please note that we are working hard to bring mailing list archives back online, but will not be finished for some time. Thus, searching archives does not currently return complete results. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 13/06/2018 17:37, sue.herrington9@gmail.com wrote: > Currently it doesn't seem possible to sign in or create a new account. > I've raised a query with Rootsweb & received the following reply - > > "Dear Sue, > Thank you for contacting RootsWeb in regard to sign-up or login issue. > We are sorry that you are encountering a problem with the site.  We will > do all that we can to answer your questions and assist you.  Some areas > of RootsWeb are currently offline.  It is not currently possible to > sign-in to the site, change passwords, or to create new accounts.  We do > not have a time frame available as to when these and other issues will > be resolved unfortunately. > We recommend that you access the link below for updated information as > it becomes available: > https://www.rootsweb.com/ > We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience as we > bring the different pieces of RootsWeb back online in a secure manner. > If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us > know. > Kevin > RootsWeb Support Team

    06/14/2018 06:10:28
    1. [DBY]Admin post re archives
    2. Nivard Ovington
    3. Hi all There has been as you know, a lot of work in the background to get Rootsweb up and running again We moved to Mailman 3 which is different to the old system and has caused some headaches (and still does in some cases) The Archives for all the lists were being repopulated and had got back to 2005 but in the process the system got slower and slower So its with regret that the lists archives have been disconnected for a while until they can figure out how to get the system to cope They said a few weeks but we will see what happens, as soon as I know I will let you know -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

    06/14/2018 06:00:44
    1. [DBY]Re: HEATHCOTEs of Hognaston
    2. Joan
    3. Have you tried looking to see if Ralph has a will in Find my Past? I've found wills very useful for confirming children's names and sometimes finding new children. Joan On 14/06/2018 07:23:01, Andy Micklethwaite via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: I'm helping a friend. Is anyone researching the HEATHCOTEs of Hognaston? Ralph born 1776 has a bundle of children baptised there. However, I can't find good evidence that John born 1799 in Stenson was one of his. Bet Wishes, Andy. _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    06/14/2018 02:25:10
    1. [DBY]HEATHCOTEs of Hognaston
    2. Andy Micklethwaite
    3. I'm helping a friend. Is anyone researching the HEATHCOTEs of Hognaston? Ralph born 1776 has a bundle of children baptised there. However, I can't find good evidence that John born 1799 in Stenson was one of his. Bet Wishes, Andy.

    06/14/2018 12:22:17
    1. [DBY]Re: Admin post on new system reminder
    2. Currently it doesn't seem possible to sign in or create a new account. I've raised a query with Rootsweb & received the following reply - "Dear Sue, Thank you for contacting RootsWeb in regard to sign-up or login issue. We are sorry that you are encountering a problem with the site. We will do all that we can to answer your questions and assist you. Some areas of RootsWeb are currently offline. It is not currently possible to sign-in to the site, change passwords, or to create new accounts. We do not have a time frame available as to when these and other issues will be resolved unfortunately. We recommend that you access the link below for updated information as it becomes available: https://www.rootsweb.com/ We apologize for the inconvenience and appreciate your patience as we bring the different pieces of RootsWeb back online in a secure manner. If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us know. Kevin RootsWeb Support Team http://rootsweb.ancestry.com" One step forward & two back seems to be the plan! Sue in Notts -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2018 6:16 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Admin post on new system reminder Hi all I just wanted to remind all subscribers that we now have a new Mailman system for the lists There are several differences in the system Subscribe & Unsubscribe addresses are different (it now has *subscribe* in the address rather than the old *request*) If you register with Rootsweb (you need to re-register even if you were previously registered, if you have not already done so since the 6th March 2018) you will find it a lot easier to sort your own subscriptions, subscribe/unsubscribe and can now also put yourself on a temporary hold, such as when you go on holiday Changing email addresses is also much easier But if you don't register/re-register with Rootsweb (its not obligatory) you can still subscribe / unsubscribe as we used to (using the correct address of course) Go to the Rootsweb homepage http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ Thank you -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    06/13/2018 10:37:59
    1. [DBY]James MILNES b 1859 query
    2. Peter Patilla
    3. Good afternoon Is there a MILNES researcher in the area? Having a bit of rest from Crich matters and looking at my family history and I am stumped on an interesting member of my line: James MILNES born 1893 Brackenfield (bap 17 Feb 1844 Morton) He joined the 91st Foot Highlanders enlisting at Nottingham 20th May 1859 at quarter past 11am; aged 20 years & 4mths. Bounty of three pounds and a free kit. He served 9yr & 300 days (most of it in East Indies) In 1881 he was at Slack, Ashover unmarried aged 42 (recorded as MILLS) In 1891 he was at Slack Lane, Ashover a widower aged 53 I cannot find a marriage (or death) of any possible wife. Nor can I find his death date. Have looked closely at the Ashover registers but not there. If he is on anyone’s line and they have any info I would delighted to hear from them Peter

    06/12/2018 10:50:23
    1. [DBY]Re: Re Higton website
    2. Nick Higton
    3. Hello Marie I don't have very good computer skills either, but I have stored my data in a desktop family history program for years. In my case, it is Brothers Keeper, but any of the others will do, as they all enable you to create a GEDCOM. I then uploaded the GEDCOM into the TNG software, filled in a few boxes in an input screen, and that was about it. The trickiest bit was adding the images. I did this through the Guild of One Name Studies, who have a project to assist members create their websites, and then to store the websites in perpetuity. It might be worth having a look at their website. Kind regards Nick ------ Original Message ------ From: "Marie ball" <marieballtov@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: 11/06/2018 22:02:48 Subject: [DBY]Re Higton website >Of course, I was most interested in your Bradford Broadleys, Nicholas >Noel Higton, but I was also interested to note you have Chadwick >Wettons and therefore probably some sort of link to my husband. >Congratulations on your website. Wish I had your computer skills, Marie >in Chehshire

    06/12/2018 02:30:08
    1. [DBY]Re: Matlock at the end of the 1500's - Early 1600's
    2. Celia Renshaw
    3. Hi Alan, manorial records might help you out. A couple of years ago, the National Archives funded a project at Derbys Record Office to update the information held on Derbyshire manorial records - the project officer was Neil Bettridge, and I was a volunteer. Between us we put together 'Manor Authority Files' which provided a summary of the info known to be extant for each Derbyshire manor. Neil did most of them and this is what he compiled for the manor of Matlock: At the time of the Domesday survey there was a manor called ' Mestesforde', which was part of the King's lands. It had outliers at Matlock, Snitterton, Wensley, Bonsall, Ible and Tansley. The manor seems to have later become known as Matlock. It would seem to have been given in the 12th century to the FERRERS family. Following the defeat of Robert de Ferrers at the Battle of Chesterfield and his attainder, the manor became part of the Earldom, later the Duchy, of Lancaster. In 1628 King Charles I granted the manor to Edward Ditchfield and others, trustees of the Corporation of London, who soon sold it in the following year to the copyholders. The manor was divided into several small shares (in 1830 there were 190 copyholders). Trustees (usually 3 in number) were appointed by the copyholders to transact the business of the manorial courts and undertake its administration well into the 20th century. Evidence for manorial status: Court rolls among the Duchy of Lancaster records at the National Archives (14th-17th cent) and Court books at the Derbysire Record Office. The manor was co-extensive with the parish of Matlock. Court leets and great court barons were held half-yearly. Sources: Derbys Archeological Journal vol 23 (1902) pp77-82 - The Lost Manor of Mettesforde by Benjamin Bryan Matlock Manor and Parish by Benjamin Bryan (1903) Magna Britannia vol 5 Derbyshire by Daniel & Samuel Lysons (1817) pp206-7 The History, Topography & Directory of Derbyshire by T Bulmer (1895) p413 If you go to the Manorial Documents Register pages on the National Archives website http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/manor-search and scroll down, you can do a search for Matlock manor. Click on the result and you'll be granted a list of 67 records, mostly held at TNA but some are at DRO. I found during WILCOCKSON research that enclosure records and tithe apportionment maps and schedules, despite dating up to 3 centuries later than the dates you are interested in, often cite the ancient field names and holdings in the parishes, so it's definitely worth checking those out to compare with manor records or property records in archives (contact DRO). It's possible to do an 'ancestry' for specific pieces of land back from Victorian to medieval times. One thing to beware of: just because a person was listed in manor records as either a freeholder or copyholder does not necessarily mean they were resident in the manor. Many people, even pretty poor people, held land or buildings in different manors to the ones where they normally lived. Celia Renshaw in Sheffield UK Blog: www.morgansite.wordpress.com On 11 June 2018 at 20:44, alan.s.flint--- via DERBYSGEN < derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi, > > This is perhaps a bit of a longshot but does anyone know whether the area > covered by the town of Matlock at the end of the 1500's through the first > half of the 1600's is in any way similar to the town of Matlock today? Or > did it perhaps incorporate other villages or hamlets? > > I ask because I am beginning to research a particular family, who, on > records accessible on the Internet all say that members of the family I am > interested in were born in Matlock. For example: > > 1: Thomas FLYNT (bn. 1585) > > 2: Thomas FLYNT (bn. 1603) > > 3: Henry FLYNT (bn. 1606) > > The second Thomas and his brother Henry both emigrated to America and > became > counted amongst the early members of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Both > were > well-respected men, Henry eventually becoming the Minister of a church in > Braintree, MA, and Thomas apparently moving to Concord, MA. I have found > numerous other references to both men as well as other family members. > > Several references I came across describe the FLYNT family as 'landowners' > back in Matlock and credited them with having some wealth, of which, it > would appear, they took a substantial portion with them to America. > > So, I am especially interested to learn whereabouts in Matlock they > actually > lived and what 'land' the then family owned? > > As I say, a longshot, but I live in hope..... > > Regards, > > Alan > >

    06/11/2018 03:32:57
    1. [DBY]Re Higton website
    2. Marie ball
    3. Of course, I was most interested in your Bradford Broadleys, Nicholas Noel Higton, but I was also interested to note you have Chadwick Wettons and therefore probably some sort of link to my husband. Congratulations on your website. Wish I had your computer skills, Marie in Chehshire

    06/11/2018 03:02:48
    1. [DBY]Matlock, Derbyshire
    2. liverpud
    3. One source: Wikipedia ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matlock,_Derbyshire Edna - Ottawa

    06/11/2018 02:28:28
    1. [DBY]Matlock at the end of the 1500's - Early 1600's
    2. Hi, This is perhaps a bit of a longshot but does anyone know whether the area covered by the town of Matlock at the end of the 1500's through the first half of the 1600's is in any way similar to the town of Matlock today? Or did it perhaps incorporate other villages or hamlets? I ask because I am beginning to research a particular family, who, on records accessible on the Internet all say that members of the family I am interested in were born in Matlock. For example: 1: Thomas FLYNT (bn. 1585) 2: Thomas FLYNT (bn. 1603) 3: Henry FLYNT (bn. 1606) The second Thomas and his brother Henry both emigrated to America and became counted amongst the early members of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Both were well-respected men, Henry eventually becoming the Minister of a church in Braintree, MA, and Thomas apparently moving to Concord, MA. I have found numerous other references to both men as well as other family members. Several references I came across describe the FLYNT family as 'landowners' back in Matlock and credited them with having some wealth, of which, it would appear, they took a substantial portion with them to America. So, I am especially interested to learn whereabouts in Matlock they actually lived and what 'land' the then family owned? As I say, a longshot, but I live in hope..... Regards, Alan

    06/11/2018 01:44:03