Hi, I'm slowly working through these images but I have an annoying thing happening when I view them in that my cursor disappears when I move over the image making it difficult to move to a different page etc. Before I contact Ancestry I wonder if anyone else has this problem or is it something to do with my computer and/or using Edge. thanks Joan

Have you considered WILLIAMTHORPE as being the village - I have not lived in that area for many years but there was a colliery there, probably in my younger days, it was in the area on the Chesterfield to Mansfield road - oh and my home village was Palterton. Regards Jack Richards -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla [mailto:ppatilla@mac.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 4:25 PM To: Family History Derbyshire Subject: [DBY]Re: Birth registration Ashover? Thank you Christine & Nivard I have ordered the William and Tryphena marriage cert to see if further light shines Peter > On 20 Jun 2018, at 14:04, Christine Benson via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Presuming Nivard's suggestion for his birth is correct he has a second name Henry. If you include that name in the search and are not too exact on birth year you will find him in later years. He appears to have married Tryphena HOLDEN in 1890 in Belper. This all needs confirmation as the name is fairly common. There is also at least one tree for him - but some trees are more myth than fact and I haven't checked this one. > > Hope this helps > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:53 AM > To: Derbysgen Derbyshire > Subject: [DBY]Birth registration Ashover? > > Good morning > > I am trying to tidy up a birth year for William BROWN son of Maria BOWN. I only have his birth year from census returns plus he disappears after 1881 and would like to "tidy him up” > > He was born William BROWN out of wedlock to Maria BOWN and in 1871 was at Bedlam Yard Wessington aged 5 (grandson) with Maria BROWN 28 (daughter) also Hannah MARRIOTT 7 (visitor) – no other household > [RG10 3608 49 7] > > In 1881he was William PATILLA (transcribed as PATILEA) aged 15 at Pot House Row, Crich. Whether George PATILLA ever married Maria BROWN is unknown but six children followed William. Again, whether George PATILLA was the father of William is unknown > [RG11 3415 16 25] > > After 1881 I loose him. Marriage? Death? > > So, all I have is born c1866 from the census. I was hoping to find this in the GRO records to at least more or less confirm the year of birth > Cannot find a baptism either although the family rather went for “batch” baptisms with children aged between 1 and 9! > > Where were ASHOVER births registered? Chesterfield? > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Ref William Brown born Derbyshire in 'Willinthorp'. There is an ancient location Willsthorp(e) in Sawley that may match Darryl Sydney Australia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:15 +0100 From: Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> Subject: [DBY]Re: Birth registration Ashover? To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <471d1e82-5a41-6494-e616-6b3bc3f4db94@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Hi Christine I too followed that same line of thought but got waylaid with other enquiries ;-) The one fly in the ointment to both the marriage to Tryphena and birth, is that there is a William H BROWN aged 15 in Sheffield in 1881, he is a farm labourer, born Derbyshire and what looks like Willinthorp I don't know of a place so named in Derbyshire, possible Willington? or Wessington? but he doesn't seem to be around in other census In 1871 the William with Maria has a birthplace Wessington The William mentioned by Peter in 1881 as PATILEA aged 15 has Ashover as birthplace In 1891 William Henry aged 26 with Tryphena has a birthplace Wessington The William Hy in 1901 hubby to Tryphena gives a birthplace Wessington Both appear to die before the 1911 1905/6 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) ******************************************

Thank you Christine & Nivard I have ordered the William and Tryphena marriage cert to see if further light shines Peter > On 20 Jun 2018, at 14:04, Christine Benson via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Presuming Nivard's suggestion for his birth is correct he has a second name Henry. If you include that name in the search and are not too exact on birth year you will find him in later years. He appears to have married Tryphena HOLDEN in 1890 in Belper. This all needs confirmation as the name is fairly common. There is also at least one tree for him - but some trees are more myth than fact and I haven't checked this one. > > Hope this helps > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:53 AM > To: Derbysgen Derbyshire > Subject: [DBY]Birth registration Ashover? > > Good morning > > I am trying to tidy up a birth year for William BROWN son of Maria BOWN. I only have his birth year from census returns plus he disappears after 1881 and would like to "tidy him up” > > He was born William BROWN out of wedlock to Maria BOWN and in 1871 was at Bedlam Yard Wessington aged 5 (grandson) with Maria BROWN 28 (daughter) also Hannah MARRIOTT 7 (visitor) – no other household > [RG10 3608 49 7] > > In 1881he was William PATILLA (transcribed as PATILEA) aged 15 at Pot House Row, Crich. Whether George PATILLA ever married Maria BROWN is unknown but six children followed William. Again, whether George PATILLA was the father of William is unknown > [RG11 3415 16 25] > > After 1881 I loose him. Marriage? Death? > > So, all I have is born c1866 from the census. I was hoping to find this in the GRO records to at least more or less confirm the year of birth > Cannot find a baptism either although the family rather went for “batch” baptisms with children aged between 1 and 9! > > Where were ASHOVER births registered? Chesterfield? > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Ah you did better than I with the 1911 The two potential deaths suggested he had died but it seems not Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2018 15:39, Christine Benson via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi Nivard and Peter, > > IF the 1901 entry with William married to Tryphena is correct, he is > shown as a Silk Weaver and Tryphena as the Manager of a Drapery Shop, > living in Matlock. > In 1911 there is a William BROWN, widower, b c 1868 Wessington living in > Matlock Bath, occupation Hosier & General Draper. > Seems likely those two are the same William. > But whether that is the right William only some more info might tell. > > Christine

Hi Nivard and Peter, IF the 1901 entry with William married to Tryphena is correct, he is shown as a Silk Weaver and Tryphena as the Manager of a Drapery Shop, living in Matlock. In 1911 there is a William BROWN, widower, b c 1868 Wessington living in Matlock Bath, occupation Hosier & General Draper. Seems likely those two are the same William. But whether that is the right William only some more info might tell. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 3:16 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: Birth registration Ashover? Hi Christine I too followed that same line of thought but got waylaid with other enquiries ;-) The one fly in the ointment to both the marriage to Tryphena and birth, is that there is a William H BROWN aged 15 in Sheffield in 1881, he is a farm labourer, born Derbyshire and what looks like Willinthorp I don't know of a place so named in Derbyshire, possible Willington? or Wessington? but he doesn't seem to be around in other census In 1871 the William with Maria has a birthplace Wessington The William mentioned by Peter in 1881 as PATILEA aged 15 has Ashover as birthplace In 1891 William Henry aged 26 with Tryphena has a birthplace Wessington The William Hy in 1901 hubby to Tryphena gives a birthplace Wessington Both appear to die before the 1911 1905/6 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2018 14:04, Christine Benson via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Presuming Nivard's suggestion for his birth is correct he has a second > name Henry. If you include that name in the search and are not too exact > on birth year you will find him in later years. He appears to have married > Tryphena HOLDEN in 1890 in Belper. This all needs confirmation as the name > is fairly common. There is also at least one tree for him - but some trees > are more myth than fact and I haven't checked this one. > > Hope this helps > > Christine

Hi Christine I too followed that same line of thought but got waylaid with other enquiries ;-) The one fly in the ointment to both the marriage to Tryphena and birth, is that there is a William H BROWN aged 15 in Sheffield in 1881, he is a farm labourer, born Derbyshire and what looks like Willinthorp I don't know of a place so named in Derbyshire, possible Willington? or Wessington? but he doesn't seem to be around in other census In 1871 the William with Maria has a birthplace Wessington The William mentioned by Peter in 1881 as PATILEA aged 15 has Ashover as birthplace In 1891 William Henry aged 26 with Tryphena has a birthplace Wessington The William Hy in 1901 hubby to Tryphena gives a birthplace Wessington Both appear to die before the 1911 1905/6 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2018 14:04, Christine Benson via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Presuming Nivard's suggestion for his birth is correct he has a second > name Henry. If you include that name in the search and are not too exact > on birth year you will find him in later years. He appears to have > married Tryphena HOLDEN in 1890 in Belper. This all needs confirmation > as the name is fairly common. There is also at least one tree for him - > but some trees are more myth than fact and I haven't checked this one. > > Hope this helps > > Christine

Hi Peter, Presuming Nivard's suggestion for his birth is correct he has a second name Henry. If you include that name in the search and are not too exact on birth year you will find him in later years. He appears to have married Tryphena HOLDEN in 1890 in Belper. This all needs confirmation as the name is fairly common. There is also at least one tree for him - but some trees are more myth than fact and I haven't checked this one. Hope this helps Christine -----Original Message----- From: Peter Patilla Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 10:53 AM To: Derbysgen Derbyshire Subject: [DBY]Birth registration Ashover? Good morning I am trying to tidy up a birth year for William BROWN son of Maria BOWN. I only have his birth year from census returns plus he disappears after 1881 and would like to "tidy him up” He was born William BROWN out of wedlock to Maria BOWN and in 1871 was at Bedlam Yard Wessington aged 5 (grandson) with Maria BROWN 28 (daughter) also Hannah MARRIOTT 7 (visitor) – no other household [RG10 3608 49 7] In 1881he was William PATILLA (transcribed as PATILEA) aged 15 at Pot House Row, Crich. Whether George PATILLA ever married Maria BROWN is unknown but six children followed William. Again, whether George PATILLA was the father of William is unknown [RG11 3415 16 25] After 1881 I loose him. Marriage? Death? So, all I have is born c1866 from the census. I was hoping to find this in the GRO records to at least more or less confirm the year of birth Cannot find a baptism either although the family rather went for “batch” baptisms with children aged between 1 and 9! Where were ASHOVER births registered? Chesterfield? Peter

Nivard As usual, many thanks. Peter > On 20 Jun 2018, at 11:07, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > PS > > The five in the GROs own indexes posted previously correspond with freebmd > > There was one registered as male BROWN in 1866 but the GROs own indexes show WRIGHT was the mothers maiden name > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 20/06/2018 11:03, Nivard Ovington wrote: >> Morning Peter >> You are correct in that Ashover registrations fall under Chesterfield >> There are five William BROWNs registered 1866 +/- 1 year in Chesterfield reg district >> BROWN, WILLIAM WILD Order >> GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 478 Order >> BROWN, WILLIAM TAYLOR Order >> GRO Reference: 1866 J Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 502 Order >> BROWN, WILLIAM CLEE Order >> GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 461 Order >> BROWN, WILLIAM HARPHAM Order >> GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 491 Order >> BROWN, WILLIAM HENRY - Order >> GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 498 >> Four have a mothers maiden name and the last has no mothers maiden name implying an illegitimate birth >> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) >> On 20/06/2018 10:53, Peter Patilla wrote: >>> Good morning >>> >>> I am trying to tidy up a birth year for William BROWN son of Maria BOWN. I only have his birth year from census returns plus he disappears after 1881 and would like to "tidy him up” >>> >>> He was born William BROWN out of wedlock to Maria BOWN and in 1871 was at Bedlam Yard Wessington aged 5 (grandson) with Maria BROWN 28 (daughter) also Hannah MARRIOTT 7 (visitor) – no other household >>> [RG10 3608 49 7] >>> >>> In 1881he was William PATILLA (transcribed as PATILEA) aged 15 at Pot House Row, Crich. Whether George PATILLA ever married Maria BROWN is unknown but six children followed William. Again, whether George PATILLA was the father of William is unknown >>> [RG11 3415 16 25] >>> >>> After 1881 I loose him. Marriage? Death? >>> >>> So, all I have is born c1866 from the census. I was hoping to find this in the GRO records to at least more or less confirm the year of birth >>> Cannot find a baptism either although the family rather went for “batch” baptisms with children aged between 1 and 9! >>> >>> Where were ASHOVER births registered? Chesterfield? >>> >>> Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

PS The five in the GROs own indexes posted previously correspond with freebmd There was one registered as male BROWN in 1866 but the GROs own indexes show WRIGHT was the mothers maiden name Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2018 11:03, Nivard Ovington wrote: > Morning Peter > > You are correct in that Ashover registrations fall under Chesterfield > > There are five William BROWNs registered 1866 +/- 1 year in Chesterfield > reg district > > BROWN, WILLIAM         WILD       Order > GRO Reference: 1865  D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF > DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 478     Order > BROWN, WILLIAM         TAYLOR          Order > GRO Reference: 1866  J Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF > DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 502     Order > BROWN, WILLIAM         CLEE       Order > GRO Reference: 1866  S Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF > DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 461     Order > BROWN, WILLIAM         HARPHAM          Order > GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF > DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 491     Order > > BROWN, WILLIAM  HENRY       -       Order > GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF > DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 498 > > Four have a mothers maiden name and the last has no mothers maiden name > implying an illegitimate birth > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 20/06/2018 10:53, Peter Patilla wrote: >> Good morning >> >> I am trying to tidy up a birth year for William BROWN son of Maria >> BOWN. I only have his birth year from census returns plus he >> disappears after 1881 and would like to "tidy him up” >> >> He was born William BROWN out of wedlock to Maria BOWN and in 1871 was >> at Bedlam Yard Wessington aged 5 (grandson) with Maria BROWN 28 >> (daughter) also Hannah MARRIOTT 7 (visitor) – no other household >> [RG10 3608 49 7] >> >> In 1881he was William PATILLA (transcribed as PATILEA) aged 15 at Pot >> House Row, Crich. Whether George PATILLA ever married Maria BROWN is >> unknown but six children followed William. Again, whether George >> PATILLA was the father of William is unknown >> [RG11 3415 16 25] >> >> After 1881 I loose him. Marriage? Death? >> >> So, all I have is born c1866 from the census. I was hoping to find >> this in the GRO records to at least more or less confirm the  year of >> birth >> Cannot find a baptism either although the family rather went for >> “batch” baptisms with children aged between 1 and 9! >> >> Where were ASHOVER births registered? Chesterfield? >> >> Peter >

Morning Peter You are correct in that Ashover registrations fall under Chesterfield There are five William BROWNs registered 1866 +/- 1 year in Chesterfield reg district BROWN, WILLIAM WILD Order GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 478 Order BROWN, WILLIAM TAYLOR Order GRO Reference: 1866 J Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 502 Order BROWN, WILLIAM CLEE Order GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 461 Order BROWN, WILLIAM HARPHAM Order GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 491 Order BROWN, WILLIAM HENRY - Order GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY Volume 07B Page 498 Four have a mothers maiden name and the last has no mothers maiden name implying an illegitimate birth Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 20/06/2018 10:53, Peter Patilla wrote: > Good morning > > I am trying to tidy up a birth year for William BROWN son of Maria BOWN. I only have his birth year from census returns plus he disappears after 1881 and would like to "tidy him up” > > He was born William BROWN out of wedlock to Maria BOWN and in 1871 was at Bedlam Yard Wessington aged 5 (grandson) with Maria BROWN 28 (daughter) also Hannah MARRIOTT 7 (visitor) – no other household > [RG10 3608 49 7] > > In 1881he was William PATILLA (transcribed as PATILEA) aged 15 at Pot House Row, Crich. Whether George PATILLA ever married Maria BROWN is unknown but six children followed William. Again, whether George PATILLA was the father of William is unknown > [RG11 3415 16 25] > > After 1881 I loose him. Marriage? Death? > > So, all I have is born c1866 from the census. I was hoping to find this in the GRO records to at least more or less confirm the year of birth > Cannot find a baptism either although the family rather went for “batch” baptisms with children aged between 1 and 9! > > Where were ASHOVER births registered? Chesterfield? > > Peter

Good morning I am trying to tidy up a birth year for William BROWN son of Maria BOWN. I only have his birth year from census returns plus he disappears after 1881 and would like to "tidy him up” He was born William BROWN out of wedlock to Maria BOWN and in 1871 was at Bedlam Yard Wessington aged 5 (grandson) with Maria BROWN 28 (daughter) also Hannah MARRIOTT 7 (visitor) – no other household [RG10 3608 49 7] In 1881he was William PATILLA (transcribed as PATILEA) aged 15 at Pot House Row, Crich. Whether George PATILLA ever married Maria BROWN is unknown but six children followed William. Again, whether George PATILLA was the father of William is unknown [RG11 3415 16 25] After 1881 I loose him. Marriage? Death? So, all I have is born c1866 from the census. I was hoping to find this in the GRO records to at least more or less confirm the year of birth Cannot find a baptism either although the family rather went for “batch” baptisms with children aged between 1 and 9! Where were ASHOVER births registered? Chesterfield? Peter

or could it be Edwinstowe - but maybe spelt the way it was pronounced to whoever did the writing regards Di NZ On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 9:14 PM, aileen rosa bleu <rosableu08@outlook.com> wrote: > > Is this any help ? > > > https://www.chatsworth.org/park/edensor/ > > [https://www.chatsworth.org/media/9569/park-edensor-1920x920.jpg]< > https://www.chatsworth.org/park/edensor/> > > Edensor - Chatsworth House<https://www.chatsworth.org/park/edensor/> > www.chatsworth.org > The 6th Duke and Joseph Paxton rebuilt Edensor, resulting in a picturesque > village at the heart of the Chatsworth community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [https://dub125.mail.live.com/Handlers/ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary= > WGvtgeoFaZE0V3bSRzdJc9whrRzgkEr0UwZAY2nYHl4%3d0&url=http:// > www.tachnamadra.com/images/banner_sticker_web8cmx_copy.gif] > > > > > "We share the Love for Shelties of true british type" > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Nick Higton <nick@higton.co.uk> > Sent: 14 June 2018 18:48 > To: Derbyshire list > Subject: [DBY]Where was Edinsower? > > I've been looking for my ancient relatives in the "Descriptive Catalogue > of Derbyshire Charters" by Isaac Herbert Jeayes, published in 1906. A > copy is available to download from the Internet Archive. > > One entry refers to a 1460 document at Brimington, involving William > HIGDON of Edinsower and Joan, his wife. I'm guessing that this might be > Edensor, but can anyone confirm, please? > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Is this any help ? https://www.chatsworth.org/park/edensor/ [https://www.chatsworth.org/media/9569/park-edensor-1920x920.jpg]<https://www.chatsworth.org/park/edensor/> Edensor - Chatsworth House<https://www.chatsworth.org/park/edensor/> www.chatsworth.org The 6th Duke and Joseph Paxton rebuilt Edensor, resulting in a picturesque village at the heart of the Chatsworth community. [https://dub125.mail.live.com/Handlers/ImageProxy.mvc?bicild=&canary=WGvtgeoFaZE0V3bSRzdJc9whrRzgkEr0UwZAY2nYHl4%3d0&url=http://www.tachnamadra.com/images/banner_sticker_web8cmx_copy.gif] "We share the Love for Shelties of true british type" ________________________________ From: Nick Higton <nick@higton.co.uk> Sent: 14 June 2018 18:48 To: Derbyshire list Subject: [DBY]Where was Edinsower? I've been looking for my ancient relatives in the "Descriptive Catalogue of Derbyshire Charters" by Isaac Herbert Jeayes, published in 1906. A copy is available to download from the Internet Archive. One entry refers to a 1460 document at Brimington, involving William HIGDON of Edinsower and Joan, his wife. I'm guessing that this might be Edensor, but can anyone confirm, please? _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/derbysgen@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Indeed Edna Rootsweb is still free and will continue to be From an update on Rootswebs home page dated Jan 23 2018 Is Ancestry going to start charging for RootsWeb? Ancestry is not going to start charging for RootsWeb. When functionality returns to the site, you will still be able to view content for free. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 16:14, liverpud wrote: > I never realized that Ancestry was involved for all that length of time. > > As far as I know it is free, and they are/were such wonderful lists, which > are so appreciated. > Edna - Ottawa

I never realized that Ancestry was involved for all that length of time. As far as I know it is free, and they are/were such wonderful lists, which are so appreciated. Edna - Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Friday, June 15, 2018 11:01 AM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Re: Derbyshire Sources, etc. Hi Marjorie I am a little unsure why this has been brought up now to be honest Rootsweb was founded in 1993, and acquired by Ancestry in 2000, that is over 18 years ago, that is nearly three times as long as when it was in private hands Since acquiring Rootsweb its been free to all to use the lists, boards, freepages, worldconnect etc etc It was taken down at the end of last year due to a data breach so they could revamp the system which was long overdue for an overhaul anyway It was a long delay but a lot of problems came to light in swapping to new servers and upgrading to Mailman 3 for the lists, the old software had been patched up for years and it couldn't continue Plus the latest data protection issues needed to be taken into account and complied with The lists came back on the 6th March and still needed a fair amount of work to get them up and running as they should but are largely working as they should now Then the archives needed adding back (which again has caused yet more problems) Worldconnect was also brought back but only in a readable form so far The freepages we have been told are being worked on and should be up again in a few weeks all being well So yes the original Rootsweb was set up and run by donations but couldn't be run that way for ever, investment was needed and for 18 years its been running pretty well under Ancestry despite the nay sayers Personally I do not think any number of donations would have kept it running as investment was needed When Rootsweb was acquired by Ancestry there were oodles of doom mongers saying it would never last as a free site and it was only a matter of time that Ancestry would start charging, that was 18+ years ago By the way, to the best of my knowledge Rootsweb was never a non-profit organisation, it may have been funded by donation but was always a for profit organisation Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Marjorie I am a little unsure why this has been brought up now to be honest Rootsweb was founded in 1993, and acquired by Ancestry in 2000, that is over 18 years ago, that is nearly three times as long as when it was in private hands Since acquiring Rootsweb its been free to all to use the lists, boards, freepages, worldconnect etc etc It was taken down at the end of last year due to a data breach so they could revamp the system which was long overdue for an overhaul anyway It was a long delay but a lot of problems came to light in swapping to new servers and upgrading to Mailman 3 for the lists, the old software had been patched up for years and it couldn't continue Plus the latest data protection issues needed to be taken into account and complied with The lists came back on the 6th March and still needed a fair amount of work to get them up and running as they should but are largely working as they should now Then the archives needed adding back (which again has caused yet more problems) Worldconnect was also brought back but only in a readable form so far The freepages we have been told are being worked on and should be up again in a few weeks all being well So yes the original Rootsweb was set up and run by donations but couldn't be run that way for ever, investment was needed and for 18 years its been running pretty well under Ancestry despite the nay sayers Personally I do not think any number of donations would have kept it running as investment was needed When Rootsweb was acquired by Ancestry there were oodles of doom mongers saying it would never last as a free site and it was only a matter of time that Ancestry would start charging, that was 18+ years ago By the way, to the best of my knowledge Rootsweb was never a non-profit organisation, it may have been funded by donation but was always a for profit organisation Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/06/2018 15:00, Marjorie Ward via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Nivard > > As Edna says the original genealogy site was run by a group who relied > on donations to fund the site.  Unfortunately not enough of us donated > and they had to sell to Ancestry. > > Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK

Nivard As Edna says the original genealogy site was run by a group who relied on donations to fund the site. Unfortunately not enough of us donated and they had to sell to Ancestry. Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk

It was a good team Edna. I suppose not enough of us donated. Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk

Thank you Martin - I shall see if I can do that tomorrow. Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills www.nwdbysources.uk