How wonderful that is-especially the obviously child written cards at the end. Maybe the tradition will now be revived! Regards Jane Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Nivard Ovington Sent: 11 August 2018 21:33 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY]Story on Swadlincote to warm the cockles ;-) A nice story on a care home in Swadlincote https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-45118383?SThisFB Perhaps more "pen pals" could do more for other care homes ? -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/derbysgen Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

A nice story on a care home in Swadlincote https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-45118383?SThisFB Perhaps more "pen pals" could do more for other care homes ? -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi Ron Looking at the archives of the Staffordshire list, there have been no posts since January 2018 Which suggests to me that the list admin isn't in place Those admins who failed to re-register with Rootsweb after March 6th 2018 will have lost those lists, and I suspect thats whats happened here And if that list had new subscribers requiring admin approval, then your subscription attempts are sitting awaiting someone to approve them And very likely the same problem on your posts too By the by I suspect but did you send to the later admin/owner address? staffordshire-owner@rootsweb.com Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/08/2018 20:48, Ron Stretton wrote: > Hi List, > > Is there SKS out there that may be able to help me. I need to make contact > with the Admin for the Staffordshire List. > > Over a number of months, I have tried to post messages to this List. After > sending a number of Messages, and getting no replies, I decided to see if I > was subscribed to this List. So I tried subscribing to this site again. Back > came a message saying I was already subscribed. So unsubscribed and tried to > subscribe. But I now cannot subscribe again. I have now tried contacting the > Admin for the Staffordshire List, that is listed on Rootsweb, but I have not > received any replies to the numbers of emails, on a number of occasions. > > I am sorry to have had to post to this List, but I am desperate to resolve > this matter. > > Cheers > > Ron

Hi List, Is there SKS out there that may be able to help me. I need to make contact with the Admin for the Staffordshire List. Over a number of months, I have tried to post messages to this List. After sending a number of Messages, and getting no replies, I decided to see if I was subscribed to this List. So I tried subscribing to this site again. Back came a message saying I was already subscribed. So unsubscribed and tried to subscribe. But I now cannot subscribe again. I have now tried contacting the Admin for the Staffordshire List, that is listed on Rootsweb, but I have not received any replies to the numbers of emails, on a number of occasions. I am sorry to have had to post to this List, but I am desperate to resolve this matter. Cheers Ron

Hi Alan - I've looked through my Brooks tree and I don't have a William who matches your dates. As you say, Brooks is such a common name in the Wirksworth area! Anne -----Original Message----- From: alan.s.flint--- via DERBYSGEN Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 3:44 AM To: 'Derbyshire genealogy' Cc: alan.s.flint@btinternet.com Subject: [DBY]William BROOKS - MIddleton by Wirksworth Dear All, I am really struggling to confirm the Date of Birth for my 3x Great Grandfather William BROOKS. He was born at Middleton-by-Wirksworth, Derbyshire. His age at death (1865) was given as 66, which would possibly suggest a birth in 1799. The 1851 & 1861 Census would also seem to suggest the birth year as 1799. I cannot find a relevant Baptism at Wirksworth for that date. I accept that he could have been baptised later. The Wirksworth PRs do have a William BROOKS being baptised in 1802 to parents William and Hannah. Part of the problem is that BROOKS was not an uncommon name in Middleton/Wirksworth, so being precise with this William BROOKS & also his own parents and grandparents is not proving to be at all easy. Researchers on Ancestry mostly seem to have opted for the William BROOKS who was baptised in 1802, giving 1802 as his year of birth (not 1799). My 3x Great Grandfather married Ann MATHER (born 1797) 20th Jan 1820. I just wondered whether anyone who might be researching the BROOKS name can throw any light on the earlier DOB and parental queries. Yours hopefully, Alan _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/derbysgen Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you I will try that route He was born 11 April 1891 Peter > On 8 Aug 2018, at 10:25, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter > > Its a problem you often find with the RFA/RHA and some other regiments > > Am I right in thinking its the William BARRATT born 11th April 1891? > > I had a look through the various records available but like you failed to find a note of his specific unit > > Have you tried the CRO for absent voters lists ? > > I have sometimes found some information by using other soldiers service numbers close to the targets searching for in this case Artillery > > I had a brief look and found an Alexander HUTCHISON 81550 Royal Artillery, of 12 Ivy Grove Ripley Derbyshire, who attested 26th July 1915 at Derby > > There is no guarantee your man was in the same unit but its perhaps worth trying any other service numbers within say ten or twenty of your mans, ignoring the RGA that will also come up > > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 08/08/2018 09:41, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: >> Good morning >> I have a minor irritation with not knowing the Battalion of one of the oldest soldiers of WW1 in my records (he died aged 103) >> William Barrat Farrier Sgt RFA 81546 >> But I do not know in which battalion(s) he served >> I would like to fill this gap if I could >> Have done the usual searches to find record of Reg numbers and links to battalions (if such exists) but drawn a blank >> If anyone has lateral thoughts on how I can discover this missing item of information please let me know >> Peter > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/derbysgen > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Peter Its a problem you often find with the RFA/RHA and some other regiments Am I right in thinking its the William BARRATT born 11th April 1891? I had a look through the various records available but like you failed to find a note of his specific unit Have you tried the CRO for absent voters lists ? I have sometimes found some information by using other soldiers service numbers close to the targets searching for in this case Artillery I had a brief look and found an Alexander HUTCHISON 81550 Royal Artillery, of 12 Ivy Grove Ripley Derbyshire, who attested 26th July 1915 at Derby There is no guarantee your man was in the same unit but its perhaps worth trying any other service numbers within say ten or twenty of your mans, ignoring the RGA that will also come up Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 08/08/2018 09:41, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Good morning > I have a minor irritation with not knowing the Battalion of one of the oldest soldiers of WW1 in my records (he died aged 103) > William Barrat Farrier Sgt RFA 81546 > > But I do not know in which battalion(s) he served > I would like to fill this gap if I could > > Have done the usual searches to find record of Reg numbers and links to battalions (if such exists) but drawn a blank > > If anyone has lateral thoughts on how I can discover this missing item of information please let me know > > Peter

Good morning I have a minor irritation with not knowing the Battalion of one of the oldest soldiers of WW1 in my records (he died aged 103) William Barrat Farrier Sgt RFA 81546 But I do not know in which battalion(s) he served I would like to fill this gap if I could Have done the usual searches to find record of Reg numbers and links to battalions (if such exists) but drawn a blank If anyone has lateral thoughts on how I can discover this missing item of information please let me know Peter

Dear All, I am really struggling to confirm the Date of Birth for my 3x Great Grandfather William BROOKS. He was born at Middleton-by-Wirksworth, Derbyshire. His age at death (1865) was given as 66, which would possibly suggest a birth in 1799. The 1851 & 1861 Census would also seem to suggest the birth year as 1799. I cannot find a relevant Baptism at Wirksworth for that date. I accept that he could have been baptised later. The Wirksworth PRs do have a William BROOKS being baptised in 1802 to parents William and Hannah. Part of the problem is that BROOKS was not an uncommon name in Middleton/Wirksworth, so being precise with this William BROOKS & also his own parents and grandparents is not proving to be at all easy. Researchers on Ancestry mostly seem to have opted for the William BROOKS who was baptised in 1802, giving 1802 as his year of birth (not 1799). My 3x Great Grandfather married Ann MATHER (born 1797) 20th Jan 1820. I just wondered whether anyone who might be researching the BROOKS name can throw any light on the earlier DOB and parental queries. Yours hopefully, Alan

Just another reminder Its the next episode of Who Do You Think You Are tonight at 9pm on the Beeb The subject is Marvin Humes Another one I have never heard of ;-) Marvin Humes Radio and TV presenter and former JLS singer Marvin Humes delves into both his Jamaican and English heritages and finds exceptional stories on both sides of the family. Deep in the Jamaican countryside, Marvin's discoveries about the lives of his black ancestors during the time of slavery turn his expectations upside down, while back in England he follows the trail of his great-grandfather, who overcame a traumatic childhood to play a part in one of the most dramatic events of the Second World War -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Hi, Derby Geners. For the sleepy little parish of Morton, I have gathered up Mike Spencers burial opostings and have placed them on Genuki. Any additions or corrections will be gratefully accepted. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/Morton Lou

Hi, Derbyshirians: I have gathered up Mike Spencer's Burial lists for Riddings and have them together now on Genuki. You can get to the list by going to: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/Riddings#ChurchRecords And selecting the "partial extract of burials". As usual, your additions and corrections are gratefully accepted. This is such a nice thing that Mike has done. Should we give him a Title? Lou Mills (Genuki maintainer for DBY)

I agree. It makes it hard to record the programmes which I often need to do, as I’m often away from home... No idea who she is, but as long as it’s interesting... > On 30 Jul 2018, at 17:37, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Well I do wish they would stop shifting WDYTYA from one day to another :-( > > Its back on tonight at 9pm > > Subject is Shirley Ballas (no I haven't heard of her either) > > Last weeks was good, lets hope this weeks is also > > > > Shirley Ballas Strictly Come Dancing head judge Shirley Ballas investigates a family story that said her maternal great-grandmother abandoned her husband and children for a more exciting life in America, and what she discovers casts her relative in a completely new light. The ballroom dancer and teacher also pursues a rumour that she has black ancestors on her father's side - and follows a trail that leads her to colonial Cape Town and the era of slave trafficking to South Africa by way of the Indian Ocean > > > > -- > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/derbysgen > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Well I do wish they would stop shifting WDYTYA from one day to another :-( Its back on tonight at 9pm Subject is Shirley Ballas (no I haven't heard of her either) Last weeks was good, lets hope this weeks is also Shirley Ballas Strictly Come Dancing head judge Shirley Ballas investigates a family story that said her maternal great-grandmother abandoned her husband and children for a more exciting life in America, and what she discovers casts her relative in a completely new light. The ballroom dancer and teacher also pursues a rumour that she has black ancestors on her father's side - and follows a trail that leads her to colonial Cape Town and the era of slave trafficking to South Africa by way of the Indian Ocean -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

I would have liked to have seen both regiments on the medal card but its far from the first time I have only seen one but the man was known to have served in more than one Proof positive may be hard to come by Like you I have checked the available records but found no mention of the service in the Sherwood Foresters but as he joined up 24th Oct 1914 and the MGC wasn't formed until Oct 1915 it stands to reason he had to have served in a different regiment before the MGC Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/07/2018 20:21, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Nivard > > Wow, that was quick thank you. It would explain most worries I had. > The fact that on his medal card only MGC is shown – should that worry me? > > I am more convinced now that this is “my” man > Peter

Nivard Wow, that was quick thank you. It would explain most worries I had. The fact that on his medal card only MGC is shown – should that worry me? I am more convinced now that this is “my” man Peter > On 29 Jul 2018, at 14:28, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Good afternoon > I am rather unhappy with the WW1 record I have for Robert Pierpoint. > > A family member has provided a photo of him in the uniform of the Sherwood Foresters. > Photos in the Derbyshire Courier dated 2 & 5 June 1917 show Lce Cpl R Pierpoint Crich, wounded (hatless and no regiment clue). The photo matches the Sherwood photo I have > > Two possible Robert Pierpoints in the Medal Roll > Gunner RGA 79731 - he was from Sandbach aged 25 on enlistment so I have discounted this record > Private MGC 53340 awarded SWB (enlisted 24/10/14 discharged 26/9/17 aged 21y 6 mo). He was only awarded V and BWM not the 14 or 15 Star so if he enrolled Oct 1914 did not serve overseas until 1916 > > As “my" Robert was reported wounded June 1917 I suppose he could have been discharged with wounds Sept 1917. However, he was born 1898 which would make him about 19 not 21. (I have several men who lied about age on enrolment) No mention of this SWB Robert having served with the Foresters. > > All I have is an “iffy” possible as no other Robert Pierpoint discovered. > > Suggestions welcomed > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/derbysgen > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Hi Peter I would come to the same conclusion as you have re the man in the MGC At the start of the war the machine guns were under each unit, mainly due to the lack of modern thinking in the upper officers It was realised that better organisation and training was necessary so the MGC was formed in Oct 1915, drawing men already in other units that were trained as machine gunners So its quite possible a man who joined the Sherwood Foresters might end up in the MGC Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/07/2018 14:28, Peter Patilla via DERBYSGEN wrote: > Good afternoon > I am rather unhappy with the WW1 record I have for Robert Pierpoint. > > A family member has provided a photo of him in the uniform of the Sherwood Foresters. > Photos in the Derbyshire Courier dated 2 & 5 June 1917 show Lce Cpl R Pierpoint Crich, wounded (hatless and no regiment clue). The photo matches the Sherwood photo I have > > Two possible Robert Pierpoints in the Medal Roll > Gunner RGA 79731 - he was from Sandbach aged 25 on enlistment so I have discounted this record > Private MGC 53340 awarded SWB (enlisted 24/10/14 discharged 26/9/17 aged 21y 6 mo). He was only awarded V and BWM not the 14 or 15 Star so if he enrolled Oct 1914 did not serve overseas until 1916 > > As “my" Robert was reported wounded June 1917 I suppose he could have been discharged with wounds Sept 1917. However, he was born 1898 which would make him about 19 not 21. (I have several men who lied about age on enrolment) No mention of this SWB Robert having served with the Foresters. > > All I have is an “iffy” possible as no other Robert Pierpoint discovered. > > Suggestions welcomed > > Peter

Good afternoon I am rather unhappy with the WW1 record I have for Robert Pierpoint. A family member has provided a photo of him in the uniform of the Sherwood Foresters. Photos in the Derbyshire Courier dated 2 & 5 June 1917 show Lce Cpl R Pierpoint Crich, wounded (hatless and no regiment clue). The photo matches the Sherwood photo I have Two possible Robert Pierpoints in the Medal Roll Gunner RGA 79731 - he was from Sandbach aged 25 on enlistment so I have discounted this record Private MGC 53340 awarded SWB (enlisted 24/10/14 discharged 26/9/17 aged 21y 6 mo). He was only awarded V and BWM not the 14 or 15 Star so if he enrolled Oct 1914 did not serve overseas until 1916 As “my" Robert was reported wounded June 1917 I suppose he could have been discharged with wounds Sept 1917. However, he was born 1898 which would make him about 19 not 21. (I have several men who lied about age on enrolment) No mention of this SWB Robert having served with the Foresters. All I have is an “iffy” possible as no other Robert Pierpoint discovered. Suggestions welcomed Peter

Very similar to myself Not expecting very much but turned into an interesting one Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 27/07/2018 22:02, Margery Whitham wrote: > For some reason I wasn’t particularly looking forward to this episode but as the programme progressed I became more interested. I found him to be articulate and there didn’t seem to be any brashness about him. Good programme. > Margery Whitham

For some reason I wasn’t particularly looking forward to this episode but as the programme progressed I became more interested. I found him to be articulate and there didn’t seem to be any brashness about him. Good programme. Margery Whitham > On 27 Jul 2018, at 20:04, Nivard Ovington <ovington.one@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I would agree with you, a much better episode than Lee Mack although his was okay in its way > > But I think this was much deeper, casting a chink of light on a difficult subject > > You do wonder about those letters & poem, did they ever get to his wife? or were they donated to the archives later on? > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 27/07/2018 19:22, Kathy Wadlow wrote: >> I enjoyed the episode too, much more interesting than last week with Lee Mack. >> I thought Boy George was surprisingly articulate and a deep thinker. I would love to know how the letters that were written by his poor great uncle to his newly wed wife, prior to him being hanged, came to be archived and available though. Very moving. >> Kathy >> in Kent > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe and Archives https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/listindexes/search/derbysgen > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community