Hello My ancestor, Moses Bellamy Riddell, came to NSW about 1860 or earlier. He may have come from Derbyshire. His wife was named Mary Ann Devinian or Wallace. His son was Augustus Reginald Riddell, who was born in about 1860. I wonder if listers know of Riddell as a Derbyshire name, and if there are records of Riddells emigrating from there to NSW. I'm not sure how Moses got here, whether as free immigrant, convict or crew. He may have been an engineer. This is all I know about him, and much of this is conflicting evidence from certificates. I have posted this message to the Devon list as well, because both places appear in the records. Thank you Richard

Just had a quick look on the census of both 1841 and 1851 and came up with a blank. The nearest I could get was a number of RIDALLs around Chapel En Le Frith. ________________________________ From: Richard <winbarst@gmail.com> To: DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 16 November 2012, 0:29 Subject: [DBY] Riddell Hello My ancestor, Moses Bellamy Riddell, came to NSW about 1860 or earlier. He may have come from Derbyshire.  His wife was named Mary Ann Devinian or Wallace.  His son was Augustus Reginald Riddell, who was born in about 1860.  I wonder if listers know of Riddell as a Derbyshire name, and if there are records of Riddells emigrating from there to NSW.  I'm not sure how Moses got here, whether as free immigrant, convict or crew.  He may have been an engineer.  This is all I know about him, and much of this is conflicting evidence from certificates.  I have posted this message to the Devon list as well, because both places appear in the records. Thank you Richard ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning all Transcribing some WW1 letters and one of them refers to the putting down of an uprising of troops during Christmas 1918 in Greece. He wrote about the RAF keeping the lid on through patrolling in "housea tenders" mounting machine guns and four-pounders. I am not sure about his spelling of "housea tenders" and have a vague memory of small tank-like vehicles being called something like that. Just intrigued what they were. My Google search on variant spellings of "housea tenders" has failed me (my English teacher called me a deviant speller, so I hoped that skill would have helped) Anyone able to enlighten me? Peter

There is a huge RIDDELL  family tree that has been done with several branches.  My husband's family is Riddell from Aberdeen Scotland. I have  not been on the site for a long time.  I will have to look for it if you are interested.   cherbert ________________________________ From: Richard <winbarst@gmail.com> To: DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 7:29:43 PM Subject: [DBY] Riddell Hello My ancestor, Moses Bellamy Riddell, came to NSW about 1860 or earlier. He may have come from Derbyshire.  His wife was named Mary Ann Devinian or Wallace.  His son was Augustus Reginald Riddell, who was born in about 1860.  I wonder if listers know of Riddell as a Derbyshire name, and if there are records of Riddells emigrating from there to NSW.  I'm not sure how Moses got here, whether as free immigrant, convict or crew.  He may have been an engineer.  This is all I know about him, and much of this is conflicting evidence from certificates.  I have posted this message to the Devon list as well, because both places appear in the records. Thank you Richard ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi list, extracts from Whitwell, mainly those giving some details, as most at this date do not. WHITWELL BURIALS 1742-1791 29 May 1742 Thomas CALF Gainsborough Co Lincoln 20 Jan 1743/4 Mrs Dorothy HARRISON widow Carburton 7 Feb 1747/8 Mary BRADSHAW Strelley 9 Mar 1749/50 Peter son of Peter BULLOCK of Cresswell 21 Sep 1750 Sarah wife of William NORMAN of Elmton 24 Feb 1754 Sarah SHAY Traveller 28 Apr 1754 George GREEN p Elmton 21 Feb 1757 Alice wife of Humph BEESTON of p. Worksop 20 Jun 1758 Mary GEE Barlborough 24 Jun 1759 George OWEN of p Baslow ( Barlow?) stranger 27 Aug 1759 Edward son of Edward and Ann TAYLOR p. South Wingfield 25 Sep 1760 Mary STARKEY a passengers child 2 Jan 1761 Thomas HUDSON of Shire Oaks 3 Oct 1761 William MUNRO son of Alex MUNRO and Ann passengers 5 Jan 1762 Richard MIDDLETON of Worksop 1 Jun 1764 Philip CARVE a stranger 4 Apr 1766 Alice CUT ? 18 Jul 1772 Samuel CUTT 7 Jul 1782 Mr John RENSHAW 29 Oct 1783 Mark MACKDONALD a traveller mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi 'geners, more from Great Longstone. GREAT LONGSTONE BURIALS 1884 Jun-Dec 6 Jun 1884 Thomas PARKIN Little Longstone 69 12 Jun 1884 George William HEWITT Great Longstone 5y 10m 16 Jun 1884 Bertha HEWITT Great Longstone 7y 6m 16 Jun 1884 Gertrude HEWITT Great Longstone 3y 11m 21 Jun 1884 Thomas FIDLER Hassop 78 21 Jul 1884 Florence Ann BOTTOMS Great Longstone 20 Aug 1884 Dorothy BENNETT Great Longstone 76 9 Oct 1884 Sythe BROWN Little Longstone 59 29 Oct 1884 William Charles Rendle WILSON Great Longstone 61 29 Nov 1884 Robert Henry LEYLAND 2 lLivesley Street Oldham Road Manchester 1y 5m 14 Dec 1884 James HEYWARD Great Longstone 27 24 Dec 1884 George WAGSTAFF Great Longstone 52 30 Dec 1884 Joseph OLIVER Great Longstone 72 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi Nick This may help to work out which volume covers where (although the catalogue is also available on archive.org) <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/derbysgen/2010-03/1268505856http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/derbysgen/2010-03/1268505856> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 14/11/2012 23:00, Nick Higton wrote: > For those who may not know, all of the Phillimore Marriage Indexes (and a > huge amount of other historic documents) can be downloaded from the Internet > Archive. > > This link will bring up many of the Derbyshire pages: > > http://archive.org/search.php?query=Derbyshire%20Phillimore

For those who may not know, all of the Phillimore Marriage Indexes (and a huge amount of other historic documents) can be downloaded from the Internet Archive. This link will bring up many of the Derbyshire pages: http://archive.org/search.php?query=Derbyshire%20Phillimore

Hi list, more from Kirk Ireton. KIRK IRETON BURIALS 1845 20 Feb 1845 Hannah HUDSON Kirk Ireton 57 10 Mar 1845 Mary SPENCER Kirk Ireton 21 19 Mar 1845 Elizabeth DEAN Blackwell 55 6 Apr 1845 James COOPER Callow 3 17 Apr 1845 William OAKLEY Allton inf 23 Apr 1845 Sarah HARRISON Kirk Ireton 10 29 May 1845 Samuel FORD Kirk Ireton 87 4 Jun 1845 James SIMPSON Kirk Ireton 47 3 Jul 1845 Sarah PEET Kirk Ireton 40 11 Jul 1845 Elizabeth SLATER Ireton Wood 46 24 Sep 1845 Jo.s (Jo.a?) KINDER Callow p Wirksworth 68 20 Oct 1845 Mary PICKERING Callow p Wirksworth 73 21 Oct 1845 John COCKAYNE Kirk Ireton 86 2 Nov 1845 Joseph WRIGHT Kirk Ireton 71 22 Nov 1845 Charles WRIGHT Kirk Ireton 17 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Thankyou Sherri - i wasnt aware of that source although i had the library on my list of places to look at! Just spent an hour looking through them but no joy yet.......twas ever thus! Andrea > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:00:33 +0000 (UTC) > From: sherribob@comcast.net > Subject: [DBY] RATCLIFFE, HUDSON, NIGHTINGALE, VARNEY, GILL & > BLACKHURST of Belper & Ontario, Ca > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <1002416748.55904.1352833233452.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Andrea, > > Vancouver city directories 1860 -1947 are on-line & free to view at http://www.vpl.ca/bccd/index.php > > Regards, > > Sherri > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I have long been trying to trace family who allegedly went to Vancouver and ran a succesful Lumber business of some kind?? Their children included an Edna and Thelma and possibly Gordon and CLifford (definitely a family of two boys and two girls) I was told they were Ratcliffs but i am open-minded about that. I have photos and hope to solve the mystery of whom this family was. Maybe i'm closer now? > > >

Many thanks to all of you who confirmed the Eeem version. Husband's delighted to have been right all along! Regards, Thelma

I always remember my late father saying 'Eeem' as I guess I have always done so wonder what it states in the dialect books guess I will always say 'Eeem' Liz Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Kelland" <rekelland@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2012 6:47:20 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi Subject: Re: [DBY] Eyam pronunciation So how do the locals say it? Or should we ask how DID the locals used to pronounce it and has it changed? It was always Ee-yum when I was little!! I remember hearing it pronounced differently on TV recently, but then we know the BBC always get things wrong!! On 13 November 2012 20:17, Thelma Wigley <t.wig@btinternet.com> wrote: > After years of accepting my husband's (ex Belper) pronunciation of Eyam as > "Eeem", I recently heard it said as "I-am" or "I-yam". I look forward to > hearing from anyone out there who can put me right. > > Thelma > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Rose Kelland* www.rosescountryrose.blogspot.com www.livesandtimesofbella.blogspot.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm certain it is pronounced Eeem- been there a number of times and it is not pronounced I-am or I-yam. Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thelma Wigley" <t.wig@btinternet.com> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:17 PM Subject: [DBY] Eyam pronunciation > After years of accepting my husband's (ex Belper) pronunciation of Eyam as > "Eeem", I recently heard it said as "I-am" or "I-yam". I look forward to > hearing from anyone out there who can put me right. > > Thelma > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There was a St Peter's Church in Macclesfield as early as 1560 (that's when the available parish records start). That's not to say the first one wasn't pulled down (or fell down) and another church built in it's place, I've found that happening quite often with churches over the century. You can find excellent information on the Church Parishes on Genuki, Google 'macclesfield genuki' (or Prestbury) and it will most probably be the first one on the list. Cheers....Dawn > I wondered about the church also. I dismissed it because St Peter's > in Macclesfield looks more recent, more 19th century than 15th.

The locals definately call it EEEM, although my mother and father from Clay Cross called it E-YAM but not I-YAM, which I think is somewhere else. I think we must go with the locals. Barbara

I grew up about 4 miles away and it was always "Eeem". The surest way to spot a tourist was if they pronounced it "I-am". -----Original Message----- From: derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:derbysgen-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lilias Kelly Sent: 14 November 2012 04:07 To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DBY] Eyam pronunciation I always remember my late father saying 'Eeem' as I guess I have always done so wonder what it states in the dialect books guess I will always say 'Eeem' Liz Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rose Kelland" <rekelland@gmail.com> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2012 6:47:20 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi Subject: Re: [DBY] Eyam pronunciation So how do the locals say it? Or should we ask how DID the locals used to pronounce it and has it changed? It was always Ee-yum when I was little!! I remember hearing it pronounced differently on TV recently, but then we know the BBC always get things wrong!! On 13 November 2012 20:17, Thelma Wigley <t.wig@btinternet.com> wrote: > After years of accepting my husband's (ex Belper) pronunciation of Eyam as > "Eeem", I recently heard it said as "I-am" or "I-yam". I look forward to > hearing from anyone out there who can put me right. > > Thelma > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Rose Kelland* www.rosescountryrose.blogspot.com www.livesandtimesofbella.blogspot.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a Latin booklet somewhere but can't find it! So I asked Google and this is what it came up with, don't know whether it helps that much:- Thomas, son of John and wandering Heeneley Elizabeth, his wife (born 1 Peter sty Maclesfield esquire) 1635 Cheers....Dawn ann wrote: > Thomas filius Johannis Heeneley vagi et > Elizabethae uxoris suae(natus > I hara Petri Maclesfield Armigeri ) 1635

Thelma It doesn't happen very often but in this instance your husband is correct ! Joan -----Original Message----- From: Thelma Wigley Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:17 PM To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] Eyam pronunciation After years of accepting my husband's (ex Belper) pronunciation of Eyam as "Eeem", I recently heard it said as "I-am" or "I-yam". I look forward to hearing from anyone out there who can put me right. Thelma ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Thelma All the students we had from the village - plus friends who lived there pronounced it Eeem. best wishes Marjorie Ward Derbyshire, UK Sources for Disley; Lyme Handley; Taxal & Whaley www.disley.net Sources for Hollingworths www.hollingworths.net Sources for NWDby incl Chapel; Charlesworth; Chinley; Fernilee; Glossop; Hayfield; Hope Valley; Mellor & New Mills http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dusk John Ward Paintings: www.johnward-art.com

So how do the locals say it? Or should we ask how DID the locals used to pronounce it and has it changed? It was always Ee-yum when I was little!! I remember hearing it pronounced differently on TV recently, but then we know the BBC always get things wrong!! On 13 November 2012 20:17, Thelma Wigley <t.wig@btinternet.com> wrote: > After years of accepting my husband's (ex Belper) pronunciation of Eyam as > "Eeem", I recently heard it said as "I-am" or "I-yam". I look forward to > hearing from anyone out there who can put me right. > > Thelma > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Rose Kelland* www.rosescountryrose.blogspot.com www.livesandtimesofbella.blogspot.com