Many thanks, Mike.    Nice to see confirmation of the early CUTTS.   I take it that  Alice GILL of Beighton rather than Brighton?        Does anyone know more about the Henry Smith of Worksop and his relations please?     This surname bugs me through generations of Cutts and it would be nice to know how early they were linked.     Regards Mavis     >________________________________ > From: Celia Renshaw <celiarenshaw@gmail.com> >To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com >Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2012, 23:24 >Subject: Re: [DBY] WHITWELL BURIALS 1719-1742 > >The poor Whitwell RENSHAWs had a really hard time of in these few decades - >I have plenty more about the families should anyone have a connection or >interest.  Thanks for posting these Mike. > >Regards, Celia Renshaw > >On 17 November 2012 22:31, mike spencer <mikedecc9@sky.com> wrote: > >> Hi list, >>  further Whitwell. >> >> WHITWELL BURIALS 1719-1742 >> >> 18 Sep 1721 George BENNETT Sheffield >> >> 10 Oct 1722 Mary wife of Thomas RENSHAW >> >> 25 Jun 1723 Thomas son of Samuel CUTTS and Alice wife >> >> 21 Mar 1726/7 William RENSHAW >> >> 5 Jan 1727/8 Ruth RENSHAW >> >> 17 Mar 1728/9 Thomas RENSHAW >> >> 4 Aug 1731 Penelope dau of Mr John RENSHAW dec and Mary wife >> >> 19 Dec 1731 Samuel son of Samuel CUTTS and Alice wife >> >> 8 May 1732 Mr Hy SMITH Worksop >> >> 26 Mar 1733 Isabel RENSHAW >> >> 20 Apr 1733 Mary INGAL bast child of Matthew ROCK snr and Barbara INGAL >> >> 8 Oct 1734 Chadwick SIMPSON Tickhill >> >> 10 May 1735 George WESTBY Schoolmaster >> >> 9 Feb 1735/6 Margaret GOULDER inf >> >> 6 Sep 1739 Mrs Alice SMITH Worksop >> >> 5 Oct 1741 Ann dau of Thomas and Martha HUDSON Worksop >> >> 17 Jul 1742 Elizabeth STONES a stranger >> >> 23 Jul 1742 Alice GILL of Brighton >> >>  mike >> >> >> -- >> http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

The poor Whitwell RENSHAWs had a really hard time of in these few decades - I have plenty more about the families should anyone have a connection or interest. Thanks for posting these Mike. Regards, Celia Renshaw On 17 November 2012 22:31, mike spencer <mikedecc9@sky.com> wrote: > Hi list, > further Whitwell. > > WHITWELL BURIALS 1719-1742 > > 18 Sep 1721 George BENNETT Sheffield > > 10 Oct 1722 Mary wife of Thomas RENSHAW > > 25 Jun 1723 Thomas son of Samuel CUTTS and Alice wife > > 21 Mar 1726/7 William RENSHAW > > 5 Jan 1727/8 Ruth RENSHAW > > 17 Mar 1728/9 Thomas RENSHAW > > 4 Aug 1731 Penelope dau of Mr John RENSHAW dec and Mary wife > > 19 Dec 1731 Samuel son of Samuel CUTTS and Alice wife > > 8 May 1732 Mr Hy SMITH Worksop > > 26 Mar 1733 Isabel RENSHAW > > 20 Apr 1733 Mary INGAL bast child of Matthew ROCK snr and Barbara INGAL > > 8 Oct 1734 Chadwick SIMPSON Tickhill > > 10 May 1735 George WESTBY Schoolmaster > > 9 Feb 1735/6 Margaret GOULDER inf > > 6 Sep 1739 Mrs Alice SMITH Worksop > > 5 Oct 1741 Ann dau of Thomas and Martha HUDSON Worksop > > 17 Jul 1742 Elizabeth STONES a stranger > > 23 Jul 1742 Alice GILL of Brighton > > mike > > > -- > http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi list, on a roll here aren't you. CLOWNE BURIALS 1666 9 Apr 1666 Dorothy WOODHEAD wife of Thomas of Oxcroft 19 Apr 1666 Margery FFERRYHURST 8 Feb 1666/7 John WRIGHT 15 Jan (sic) 1666/7 John HURST 21 Feb 1666/7 Henry BOOTH don of Henry BOOTH 1 Mar 1666/7 Joan HALLEWELL 26 Mar 1667 Alice FFERIHURST wife of Richard -- Apr 1667 Robert STYDMAN -- May 1667 Saray TOMKIN dau of Richard and Juliann ? 5 Sep 1667 Will AWCOCK 26 Sep 1667 Thomas WOODHEAD -- Mar 1667/8 Mary BUTLER wife of Edward 18 Mar 1667/8 Grace CRASHAW wife of Thomas 29 Apr 1668 Thomas CRASHAW -- -- 1668 Elizabeth wife of Nicholas BARKER 14? May 1668 Henry HAY 1? Jul 1668 Nicholas BARKER 21? Oct 1668 Joan -- -- 1668 James ? the wife of William 3 Dec 1668 John BARBER 17 Jan 1668/9 Robert BARKER mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi 'geners, more from Clowne CLOWNE BURIALS 1665 13 May 1665 Mary BERRANE 18 May 1665 William BUTLER 5 Oct 1665 Thomas WOODHEAD son of THomas of Oxcroft 9 Jan 1665/6 Thomas HEMSLEY 15 Jan 1665/6 Lucy TOMKIN widow 4 Feb 1665/6 William MERCER 9 Mar 1665/6 Francis (sic) WOODHEAD dau (sic) of Edm and ffr his wife mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, now to Clowne CLOWNE BURIALS 1664 29 Apr 1664 Nicholas THORNLEY son of Nicholas 20 Apr 1664 Samuel TOMLIN (TOMKIN?) 5 May 1664 Elizabeth JESSOP 9 Jun 1664 Anne GRANNA? wife of Richard -- Sep 1664 Elizabeth AUCOCK wife of William 7 Jan 1664/5 Elizabeth THORNELEY 12 Jan 1664/5 Ellen SHIPMAN wife of George mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, just a stray. WHITWELL BURIALS 1838 (1) 17 Feb 1838 Peter BULLOCK Clown 69 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, just a few from Whitwell that give a details or so . WHITWELL BURIALS 1792-1799 16 Feb 1798 Jonathan CARTER burnt to death 21 Feb 1798 Elizabeth WOODHEAD aged 88 (or 86?) burnt to death 8? Feb 1799 Elizabeth CLARK 79 4 Oct 1799 John WOODHEAD 66 30 Dec 1799 Joseph DEAN 68 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, further Snelston material , Overseers, and names mentioned in accounts, basically bits of paper. SNELSTON OVERSEERS ACCOUNTS c 1725 Jane JOHNSON 3 wks 5/6 Godfrey WILLSHAW 3/19/6 John HOPKIN for Joseph HEAPES boy widow TIPAR coles for William TUNICLIF coles for Mary BOAME pd Mr HARDING for burying Joseph HEAPS wife pd John HOPKIN for making coffin Edward SMYTH widow COPE SNELSTON OVERSEERS ACCOUNTS 1726 pd 51 wks Sarah BILL pd 51 wks Mary BOAM Jane JOHNSON Joseph HOPE coles widow ATKIN coles William TUNICLIFFE coles Mary BOAM rent Mary SNESLSTON OVERSERS ACCOUNTS c1741 pd Rebekah HALL for looking to Robert HARIS pd John DICH for making letters mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, further Whitwell. WHITWELL BURIALS 1719-1742 18 Sep 1721 George BENNETT Sheffield 10 Oct 1722 Mary wife of Thomas RENSHAW 25 Jun 1723 Thomas son of Samuel CUTTS and Alice wife 21 Mar 1726/7 William RENSHAW 5 Jan 1727/8 Ruth RENSHAW 17 Mar 1728/9 Thomas RENSHAW 4 Aug 1731 Penelope dau of Mr John RENSHAW dec and Mary wife 19 Dec 1731 Samuel son of Samuel CUTTS and Alice wife 8 May 1732 Mr Hy SMITH Worksop 26 Mar 1733 Isabel RENSHAW 20 Apr 1733 Mary INGAL bast child of Matthew ROCK snr and Barbara INGAL 8 Oct 1734 Chadwick SIMPSON Tickhill 10 May 1735 George WESTBY Schoolmaster 9 Feb 1735/6 Margaret GOULDER inf 6 Sep 1739 Mrs Alice SMITH Worksop 5 Oct 1741 Ann dau of Thomas and Martha HUDSON Worksop 17 Jul 1742 Elizabeth STONES a stranger 23 Jul 1742 Alice GILL of Brighton mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, a few entries from Snelston churchwardens which might give a clue or two. Some parts of Snelston parish registers are pretty bad. SNELSTON CHURCHWARDENS 1751 pd to Easter SMITH washing surples 1/6d pd to Sam ELLAM for bell ropes 8/7d SNELSTON CHURCHWARDENS 1755 pd William SMITH half years salary 1/-/- Ester SMITH for washing 1/6d pd SILETO clock maker for repairing ch clock 7/6d pd to John BULLOCK for carridge Bell Ashborn 4/- for charges for William JOHNSON and mee Longford about bells gave to Mr GOLD for drawing terrer and register pd Thay SANDERS carridge bel from Ashborn pd John COXON for old axel two bels pd Samuel HARRISON for going New Mils and Narbey to borrow -ubesis ? 6d pd Ralph GADSBY for timber for bel frame 10/5d -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, some more of May and June from Chessy crooked spire. CHESTERFIELD ST MARY AND ALL SAINTS BURIALS May-Jul 22 May 1841 John FRETWELL Calow 2m 23 May 1841 William GLADWIN Chesterfield 11m 23 May 1841 Miriam dau of William MANKNELL Chesterfield 1 day 23 May 1841 Mary wife of Henry COWLISHAW Calow 66 25 May 1841 Francis MADIN Walton 71 2 Jun 1841 Sarah Deakin BONNINGTON Chesterfield 10m 4 Jun 1841 Sarah relict of late Rev George BOSLEY MA Vicar of this parish, Chesterfield 80 6 Jun 1841 Mary SHERWIN Brampton 64 11 Jun 1841 Elizabeth HIGGINBOTTOM Manchester 25 14 Jun 1841 Mary HERRINGHAM Chesterfield 76 16 Jun 1841 Thomas WORRALL Chesterfield 25 24 Jun 1841 Henry BARKER Hady 34 30 Jun 1841 William GLOSSOP Chesterfield 3 wks 4 Jul 1841 John PEAK Walton 76 8 Jul 1841 Rev Robert BROOMEHEAD MA Perpetual curate of Temple Normanton Temple Normanton no age given 14 Jul 1841 Watson SMITH Chesterfield 2 15 Jul 1841 Margaret HEATH Chesterfield 42 18 Jul 1841 George LOWE Stonegravels 14 18 Jul 1841 Edward ANTHONY Chesterfield 70 27 Jul 1841 Elizabeth CLARK Chesterfield 44 28 Jul 1841 Ruth TOFT Chesterfield 85 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi' geners, more from Chessy. CHESTERFIELD ST MARY AND ALL SAINTS 1841 Aug 1 Aug 1841 William WOOD Chesterfield 84 1 Aug 1841 Elizabeth LONGSON Newbold 38 10 Aug 1841 George KENNEDY Chesterfield 56 12 Aug 1841 Jane BRAILSFORD Chesterfield 49 14 Aug 1841 Alice HEATH Chesterfield 83 15 Aug 1841 Ann RENSHAW Hasland 11 wks 16 Aug 1841 Florence McCARTHY Chesterfield 9m 17 Aug 1841 Benjamin BRADLEY Chesterfield 71 17 Aug 1841 Elizabeth HAWLEY Hasland 71 22 Aug 1841 Henry HEATH Newbold 1y 10m 22 Aug 1841 John BARLOW Tapton 11m 22 Aug 1841 Thomas CARTER Chesterfield 16 22 Aug 1841 Alice HALL Chesterfield 61 24 Aug 1841 Sarah EYRE Highfield 63 27 Aug 1841 Richard HARDWICK Chesterfield 20 plus 11 Oct 1841 Sarah CROFTS Chesterfield 49 21 Nov 1841 Sarah Ann SPENCER Chesterfield 6m 3 Dec 1841 Sarah BRETNALL Sheffield 18 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi Richard It might pay you to have a look around the NORTHUMBRIA-L@rootsweb.com list: I think there is a list for the Borders too, I know of several Riddells originating in Berwickshire. Good luck with your search Bob NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <winbarst@gmail.com> To: <DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:29 PM Subject: [DBY] Riddell > Hello > > My ancestor, Moses Bellamy Riddell, came to NSW about 1860 or earlier. > He may have come from Derbyshire. His wife was named Mary Ann > Devinian or Wallace. His son was Augustus Reginald Riddell, who was > born in about 1860. I wonder if listers know of Riddell as a > Derbyshire name, and if there are records of Riddells emigrating from > there to NSW. I'm not sure how Moses got here, whether as free > immigrant, convict or crew. He may have been an engineer. This is > all I know about him, and much of this is conflicting evidence from > certificates. I have posted this message to the Devon list as well, > because both places appear in the records. > > Thank you > > Richard > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi list, back to the crooked spire CHESTERFIELD ST MARY AND ALL SAINTS BURIALS 1841 May 2 May 1841 Mary Anne FIDLER Calow 3 days 3 May 1841 James HOLMES Calow 5m 3 May 1841 Anne PARSONS Chesterfield 12 m 5 May 1841 Anne CROWSHAW Chesterfield 2 5 May 1841 Mary relict late George COOPER of Chesterfield Duffield 70 7 May 1841 Edwin WALKER Chesterfield 10m 7 May 1841 Sarah BRAILSFORD Chesterfield 2y 6m 9 May 1841 Elizabeth NALL Chesterfield 59 12 May 1841 John BROWN Chesterfield 55 14 May 1841 Henry SHARRATT Newbold Moor 9m 21 May 1841 James STANHOPE Chesterfield 73 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

In the dim and distant past I recall knowing a few Riddell's in Lincolnshire - not that much of a leap from Derbyshire. Sue in Newark   ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob & Janet <jb.armstrong@clear.net.nz> To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Friday, 16 November 2012, 17:25 Subject: Re: [DBY] Riddell Hi Richard It might pay you to have a look around the NORTHUMBRIA-L@rootsweb.com  list: I think there is a list for the Borders too, I know of several Riddells originating in Berwickshire. Good luck with your search Bob NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <winbarst@gmail.com> To: <DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 1:29 PM Subject: [DBY] Riddell > Hello > > My ancestor, Moses Bellamy Riddell, came to NSW about 1860 or earlier. > He may have come from Derbyshire.  His wife was named Mary Ann > Devinian or Wallace.  His son was Augustus Reginald Riddell, who was > born in about 1860.  I wonder if listers know of Riddell as a > Derbyshire name, and if there are records of Riddells emigrating from > there to NSW.  I'm not sure how Moses got here, whether as free > immigrant, convict or crew.  He may have been an engineer.  This is > all I know about him, and much of this is conflicting evidence from > certificates.  I have posted this message to the Devon list as well, > because both places appear in the records. > > Thank you > > Richard > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear list Some time ago members gave the sites of their favourite maps. I thought that I had saved the details but where they are I know not. I have tried the archives but don't seem to find them there either. I think that age has something to do with the problem of me not remembering or being able to find!! Would very much appreciate being reminded and will try and not be too careless in the future. Many thanks Richard

Guy Thank you This looks a definite possibility especially as the man writing was posh and could have pronounce howitzer as housea :-) Peter On 16 Nov 2012, at 12:59, Guy Etchells wrote: > On 16/11/2012 10:07, Peter Patilla wrote: >> "housea tenders" > Could it be howitzer tenders (Gun Carriers Mk I) "small" tank like > vehicles that could carry a 60 pounder field gun or a 6" howitzer, which > were supposed to be able to be fired on the gun carrier or dismounted > and fired from the ground. > Cheers > Guy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 2012/11/16 02:29, Richard wrote: > My ancestor, Moses Bellamy Riddell, came to NSW about 1860 or earlier. He may > have come from Derbyshire. His wife was named Mary Ann Devinian or Wallace. > His son was Augustus Reginald Riddell, who was born in about 1860. I wonder > if listers know of Riddell as a Derbyshire name, and if there are records of > Riddells emigrating from there to NSW. I'm not sure how Moses got here, > whether as free immigrant, convict or crew. He may have been an engineer. > This is all I know about him, and much of this is conflicting evidence from > certificates. I have posted this message to the Devon list as well, because > both places appear in the records. Judging by a cursory look at FreeBMD, RIDDELL seems to be a name that is to be found predominantly in the North-East of England. I can see no birth registration for an Augustus. Was he even born in England? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg

On 16/11/2012 10:07, Peter Patilla wrote: > "housea tenders" Could it be howitzer tenders (Gun Carriers Mk I) "small" tank like vehicles that could carry a 60 pounder field gun or a 6" howitzer, which were supposed to be able to be fired on the gun carrier or dismounted and fired from the ground. Cheers Guy

Richard wrote: > Hello > > My ancestor, Moses Bellamy Riddell, came to NSW about 1860 or earlier. > He may have come from Derbyshire. His wife was named Mary Ann > Devinian or Wallace. His son was Augustus Reginald Riddell, who was > born in about 1860. I wonder if listers know of Riddell as a > Derbyshire name, and if there are records of Riddells emigrating from > there to NSW. I'm not sure how Moses got here, whether as free > immigrant, convict or crew. He may have been an engineer. This is > all I know about him, and much of this is conflicting evidence from > certificates. I have posted this message to the Devon list as well, > because both places appear in the records. I can find nothing for a birth of an Augustus Reginald between 1855 and 1865. Could Augustus have been born before his mother married? He'd be registered under her name. Nor can I find a marriage for a Moses. What other spellings of the name have you tried? Have you tried FamilySearch? What sources have you used? Where did your information come from? You might find Rootschat or a general list such as GenBrit a better idea since you don't have any firm locations or dates yet. RIDDELL doesn't seem to be specific to any one county. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk