Can anyone help with my search I am trying to find where my ancestor lived in 1930's She is living at ' Oakfield'  Darley Dale. I am thinking she was working here, as I have a marriage at a later date. If anyone can help would love to know if this is the local doctor or maybe an institution any help gratefully received Aileen Nobody ever climbed a mountain by saying   'I can't'

I was, once again, thinking that none of the names I am researching ever come up on the lists! Even on the Matlock specific lists, and practically all my family seemed to have lived in Matlock at some time or other! But this time I got lucky! : On 28 November 2012 22:01, mike spencer <mikedecc9@sky.com> wrote: > > Hi list, > mostly stray entries from Matlock this time. > > MATLOCK BURIALS 1862-1865 > > > 26 Feb 1865 Martha ADDY Matlock Bank 58 > This is probably JOHN ADDY's wife MARTHA HIGGS. She was born in 1807 (only got the year) and was the daughter of John HIGGS and Elizabeth GREATOREX. I don't have a marriage date yet! I think they had six children: Elizabeth 1825; Ann b: 27 May 1833 buried 26 mar 1834 (age 1) John Higgs c 29 Apr 1838 died 26 Jul 1840 (age 2) Joseph c 16 Mar 1842 died 21 Dec 1844 (age 2) Eleanor Martha c 7 Apr 1845 died Sep 1849 (age 5) & John Higgs (2nd) b 2 Mar 1848. > Only two of the six lived beyond childhood, so sad. Thanks Mike! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Rose Kelland www.rosescountryrose.blogspot.com www.livesandtimesofbella.blogspot.com

Hi list, selected entries from Wirksworth Churchwardens accounts 1835-1837 Churchwardens at the time George HEAP and Thomas SHAW, Ralph WRIGHT 19 Jan 1835 paid Samuel HANSON ringing 5 o/clock bell 1-1-0 14 Apr 1835 PAID Samuel HANSON for making fires 12-8d 4 Sep 1835 paid George FROST for paving round stoops 2-0d 4 Sep 1835 paid John PEARSON for pitching about stoops 1-6d 4 Sep 1835 paid Mr BUCKINGHAM Bill for tuneing and cleaning the organ 10-12-0d 30 Sep 1835 paid James WHEELDON for work done in churchyard 14-0d 8 0ct 1835 paid John KNOWLES for expenses when seting the paving churchyard 5-1d 5 Feb 1836 paid Hugh WALL for snow cutting 2-6d 1 May 1836 paid Paul TAYLOR for coals and leading 9-3d 7 Aug 1836 paid Job COOPER for moving churchyard 5-0d 20 Jun 1837 paid ringers Kings death 8-0d 27 Jun 1837 paid ringers Queen proclaimed 8-0d 13 Jul 1837 paid Thomas WAINE six days work in church yard 15-0d 17 Jul 1837 paid Ringers Kings funeral 8-0d 22 Dec 1837 paid John MASKKRY for jointing windows 1-6d mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, mostly stray entries from Matlock this time. MATLOCK BURIALS 1862-1865 7 Nov 1862 John SPENCER Alfreton 59 16 Mar 1863 Hannah LUDLAM Darley Flash inf 3 May 1863 Emma ELLIOTT Sheffield inf 28 Aug 1864 Thomas WOODHEAD Sheffield 22 22 Oct 1864 Jane GRAINGER Braintree Essex 25 27 Oct 1864 Lydia RENSHAW Scarthin Nick 84 29 Nov 1864 Hannah Glazebrook MANNERS Rhyl 67 1 Dec 1864 George SHAW Lea 50 15 Jan 1865 Hannah HODGKINSON Derby Road, Chesterfield 31 26 Feb 1865 Martha ADDY Matlock Bank 58 30 Jun 1865 John HUNTER South Shields Co of Durham 43 16 Sep 1865 Timothy SPENCER Matlock 68 20 Dec 1865 Ann Catherine Mary STEVENS Derby 18 27 Dec 1865 Samuel SIMS Holloway 54 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

and Matlock again. MATLOCK BURIALS 1861 Nov-Dec 7 Nov 1861 John Bunting WARD Matlock 24 10 Nov 1861 Charles HARDSTAFF Matlock Bath 20 10 Nov 1861 Ann TWIGG Starkholmes 39 12 Nov 1861 Hannah BUNTING Starkholmes 75 12 Nov 1861 James ALLWOOD Matlock Bnak 21 27 Nov 1861 Timison GRATTON Stockport 76 27 Nov 1861 Hannah KNOWLES Matlock 43 6 Dec 1861 Joseph BROOKHOUSE Matlock 77 6 Dec 1861 Sarah RAWSON Matlock Bank inf 15 Dec 1861 Hannah WILSON Matlock 12 20 Dec 1861 Martha GREGORY Starkholmes 17 20 Dec 1861 William FOX Starkholmes 83 22 Dec 1861 Henrietta SPENCER Matlock Bank inf mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

more Matlock MATLOCK BURIALS 1861 Aug-Sep-Oct 8 Aug 1861 Hannah HATFIELD Matlock 60 11 Aug 1861 Elizabeth BARBER Cromford? Bridge 85 29 Aug 1861 George DICKENS Starkholmes 89 20 Sep 1861 Phoebe GELL Cromford in Wirksworth parish 73 21 Sep 1861 Mary Kate? BODEN Cromford in parish of Wirksworth 4 22 Sep 1861 Ann BODEN Starkholmes 59 23 Sep 1861 William TAYLOR Castle Top 68 5 Oct 1861 George Henry ALLEN Lums Dale 1m 9 Oct 1861 Edward BOAM Matlock Bank 7m 11 Oct 1861 Eliza WALL Matlock 40 31 Oct 1861 Albert Charles DICKENS Matlock 1 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

another month in Matlock. Why not. MATLOCK BURIALS 1861 Jul 2 Jul 1861 Abel BODEN Matlock Bath 53 2 Jul 1861 Isabella SMITH Tor House Matlock Dale 25 drowned herself in the river Derwent 5 Jul 1861 Ellen Elizabeth PARKYN Matlock inf 5 Jul 1861 George BUCKLEY Matlock Bank 36 killed in the railway tunnel at Haddon 9 Jul 1861 Millicent BUCKLEY Matlock Bank 4 10 Jul 1861 John BODEN Matlock Bank 16 11 Jul 1861 Hannah BUTLER Bonsall 45 14 Jul 1861 Moris ? (Moses?) Delancey ROBINSON Bronerton nr Barnstaple Devon 19 26 Jul 1861 Mary WILDGOOSE Dimple 49 28 Jul 1861 Mary Ann BUNTING Scarthin Nick 21 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi 'geners, to Matlock. MATLOCK BURIALS 1861 Jun 6 Jun 1861 Hannah Jonne? DIXON Matlock Bank 16 8 Jun 1861 Isaac LYMN Matlock Bath 45 11 Jun 1861 Samuel Thomas BINGHAM Matlock Bank inf 11 Jun 1861 Hannah CARDIN Common Wood 81 12 Jun 1861 Hannah BEARDOW Lumsdale inf 12 Jun 1861 German BUXTON Starkholmes 75 13 Jun 1861 Elizabeth FOX Starkholmes 75 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, more from Osmaston by Derby OSMASTON BY DERBY BURIALS 1856-1857 8 Feb 1856 John PYMM Lenton 6y 7m 20 Feb 1856 Elizabeth Rose RICHARDSON Derby 18 18 May 1856 Jane MADGEWICK Derby 61 17 Jun 1856 William WILMOT Belgrave London 90 27 Aug 1856 Charles Herbert JESSOPP Litchurch 8m 18 Nov 1856 Jane MARSHALL Osmaston 19 25 Dec 1856 John CHAPMAN Osmaston 80 21 Nov 1857 Alice TAGG Derby 64 28 Dec 1857 Mary MARSHALL Litchurch 31 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Thank you all for your responses! He was Joseph Wolstenholme ANDREW, born 8 Nov. 1877 in Sheffield I'll reply to all here in this post. To Barbara Winder, thank you but a friend has already checked Ancestry quite thoroughly. I do appreciate your offer. To Anne in Hamilton, thank you. I'll check that out. much appreciated. To Nivard, thank you as well. I wouldn't post such information if I wasn't absolutely certain. I've heard the information from at least 10 people in the family, from all sides. He was my Salford-born father's father and Dad had no use for him. I've heard from aunts on both the English and Canadian sides, and from cousins in England. My father, his siblings and half-sisters all witnessed the behaviours I've mentioned, and each told me in person. I'm not certain he served in the Army Service Corps, but I think it likely. Several of his brothers did, and I've been told he carried water for horses in France. I've searched the medal rolls, and there are several named Joseph W. Andrew - middle names not given. My English-born aunt, who died just two years ago, often talked about her father. She talked frequently about going to the railway station in Salford or Manchester to see him, in his uniform, off to war and when he came home on leave. The only photo we have of him was when he was in the military hospital in Buxton. Thank you so much for the passport site. I didn't know there is such a one. I'll check it out.

Hi Patricia I am always a little wary when I see that sort of statement about a man or woman who are not around to defend themselves, I don't know if you are on his side (ie you descend from his Canadian side) or from his wife Evelyns side left in England If you are going on family stories passed down they can often be slanted somewhat, only you will have that knowledge and I don't mean to question its veracity Re Joseph Wolstenholme ANDREW As to his Army service, how sure are you that he did serve in the ASC? The fact he signs up in Canada stating no former service does suggest he has gone AWOL from the British Army but you do wonder why he used his full name and didn't try and hide under a false name Could he have been discharged from the Army perhaps? ill health or gunshot wound ? (many accidents occurred in the UK) The reason you can't find a medal card is perhaps that he was not entitled to any (eg didn't serve abroad) or he was barred from his entitlement as he had skipped to Canada Civil crimes or going AWOL could bar his entitlement Guns were used by many people in the pre war period so him having a gun wound of some sort would not necessarily draw that much attention For passports try <http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/passport.htm> You are correct in that approximately two thirds of service records were lost in WW2 so there is more chance they were destroyed than not Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 26/11/2012 07:52, Patricia Andrew wrote: > My paternal grandfather was, in many ways, not a good man. An alcoholic > and wife beater, for starters. > Still, he's mine and I want to know more about him. > > He and his brothers in Salford, Lancs all joined up in 1914 and were > assigned to the British Army Service Corps. > > In 1916 he came home on leave. A family blowup prompted him to take his > three younger children away from their mother and park them with his mother. > He then emigrated to Canada with his oldest son and joined the Canadian > Army. > > I have his attestation papers for that. In them, he swore he had never > served in another country's armed forces. > The Canadian officials apparently ignored the fact that he had a piece > of shot in one eye. > You don't get that being the town postman. > He also listed his mother as his wife. > > So I wonder how he managed to leave the British Army and emigrate from > England. Could a British soldier just quit in the middle of a war? > Did he go AWOL? Did he and his son need to get passports to be accepted > into Canada? > > I understand much of the British records from WWI were destroyed in WWII > bombing. > I have searched the British medal rolls records but found no definitive > answer there. > And I don't know where else to look. > > I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

need birth date and place too Patricia, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Patricia Andrew <pdandrew32@gmail.com> To: DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012, 8:11 Subject: Re: [DBY] my errant grandfather Someone asked his name. He was Joseph Wolstenholme ANDREW. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you give me details of full name and date of birth-I'll see what Ancestry has, Patricia. Barbara ________________________________ From: Patricia Andrew <pdandrew32@gmail.com> To: DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012, 7:52 Subject: [DBY] my errant grandfather - military service My paternal grandfather was, in many ways, not a good man. An alcoholic and wife beater, for starters. Still, he's mine and I want to know more about him. He and his brothers in Salford, Lancs all joined up in 1914 and were assigned to the British Army Service Corps. In 1916 he came home on leave. A family blowup prompted him to take his three younger children away from their mother and park them with his mother. He then emigrated to Canada with his oldest son and joined the Canadian Army. I have his attestation papers for that. In them, he swore he had never served in another country's armed forces. The Canadian officials apparently ignored the fact that he had a piece of shot in one eye. You don't get that being the town postman. He also listed his mother as his wife. So I wonder how he managed to leave the British Army and emigrate from England.  Could a British soldier just quit in the middle of a war? Did he go AWOL?  Did he and his son need to get passports to be accepted into Canada? I understand much of the British records from WWI were destroyed in WWII bombing. I have searched the British medal rolls records but found no definitive answer there. And I don't know where else to look. I'd be grateful for any suggestions. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Patricia - here is a link to Canadian Immigration records...hope it helps. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/022/index-e.html Anne in Hamilton, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Andrew Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:52 PM To: DERBYSGEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [DBY] my errant grandfather - military service My paternal grandfather was, in many ways, not a good man. An alcoholic and wife beater, for starters. Still, he's mine and I want to know more about him. He and his brothers in Salford, Lancs all joined up in 1914 and were assigned to the British Army Service Corps. In 1916 he came home on leave. A family blowup prompted him to take his three younger children away from their mother and park them with his mother. He then emigrated to Canada with his oldest son and joined the Canadian Army. I have his attestation papers for that. In them, he swore he had never served in another country's armed forces. The Canadian officials apparently ignored the fact that he had a piece of shot in one eye. You don't get that being the town postman. He also listed his mother as his wife. So I wonder how he managed to leave the British Army and emigrate from England. Could a British soldier just quit in the middle of a war? Did he go AWOL? Did he and his son need to get passports to be accepted into Canada? I understand much of the British records from WWI were destroyed in WWII bombing. I have searched the British medal rolls records but found no definitive answer there. And I don't know where else to look. I'd be grateful for any suggestions. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Someone asked his name. He was Joseph Wolstenholme ANDREW.

My paternal grandfather was, in many ways, not a good man. An alcoholic and wife beater, for starters. Still, he's mine and I want to know more about him. He and his brothers in Salford, Lancs all joined up in 1914 and were assigned to the British Army Service Corps. In 1916 he came home on leave. A family blowup prompted him to take his three younger children away from their mother and park them with his mother. He then emigrated to Canada with his oldest son and joined the Canadian Army. I have his attestation papers for that. In them, he swore he had never served in another country's armed forces. The Canadian officials apparently ignored the fact that he had a piece of shot in one eye. You don't get that being the town postman. He also listed his mother as his wife. So I wonder how he managed to leave the British Army and emigrate from England. Could a British soldier just quit in the middle of a war? Did he go AWOL? Did he and his son need to get passports to be accepted into Canada? I understand much of the British records from WWI were destroyed in WWII bombing. I have searched the British medal rolls records but found no definitive answer there. And I don't know where else to look. I'd be grateful for any suggestions.

Hi 'geners, more Great Longstone. GREAT LONGSTONE BURIALS 1888 12 Mar 1888 Miriam WOODROOFE Great Longstone 14m 3 Apr 1888 Ruth BONSALL Great Longstone 68 27 Apr 1888 Robert SHAW Monsal Dale 72 18 May 1888 Joseph BOTTOMS Great Longstone 66 2 Jun 1888 Margaret HAWLEY Great Longstone 77 17 Jun 1888 Robert SKIDMORE Great Longstone 19 19 Jun 1888 William HAYWARD Great Longstone 22 18 Aug 1888 Jane ARNOLD Monsal Dale 40 21 Sep 1888 Joseph EWINGS Burre House 82 25 Sep 1888 Annie Ashton LOMAS Little Longstone 1y 3m mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Hi list, more from G. L. GREAT LONGSTONE BURIALS 1887 19 Feb 1887 Thomas HILL Great Longstone 79 21 May 1887 John EYRE Great Longstone 63 29 May 1887 Joseph SCOTT Great Longstone 74 4 Jun 1887 Mary HACKETT Great Longstone 48 12 Jun 1887 John TAYLOR Great Longstone 67 mike -- http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm

Thanks for this idea, Mike. Joy > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 14:27:54 +0200 > From: fredbonzo@iafrica.com > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DBY] Wiskets and Skuttles > > On 2012/11/24 14:23, Joy Hungerford wrote: > > > I've found a reference to someone who describes himself in 1841 > > as a Wisket Maker. In 1851, he is now a skuttle maker in Derby. > > > > > > 'Skuttle' could be scuttle, of course, unless it is a mis-spelt > > shuttle. > > Wisket is probably a dialectical version of Waistcoat. > > -- > Regards, > Mike Fry > Johannesburg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks, Marjorie. It seems incredible that baskets were hard-wearing enough to use in mines. Kind regards Joy > From: marjorie.ward2@btinternet.com > To: derbysgen@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 12:53:04 +0000 > Subject: Re: [DBY] Wiskets and Skuttles > > Hello Joy > > A Wisket was a basket - in use in lead mines I seem to remember. When young > (what a long time ago!) we had a coal scuttle. I wonder whether they made > basket weave ones? > > best wishes > > Marjorie Ward